It’s a joke and embarrassment of the tories to not match the Scottish deal.
Anyone who votes in favour of this is voting to say they are worthless and enjoy being abused.
inflation at 10%
government offers 4.5%
with the 4% to come out of *existing school budgets that have already been slashed to the bone*
our rulers’ children don’t go to our schools. they don’t care about our children’s future. they don’t care about education for us.
we need to strike and strike hard. power is the only thing these people understand.
On the edge of quitting teaching. Think this might be the final straw.
Hard to identify the part of this that’s more insulting…
The 4.5% next year that is way below not only inflation but also what Wales and Scotland teachers got
The £1,000 one off payment that I’ve already lost half of due to strike action
The fact that only 0.5% would be funded, meaning schools would have to find the other 4% themselves, leading to further cuts in provision beyond what we’ve already seen.
Anyone who votes to accept this genuinely needs help. There is absolutely no reason to accept this offer whatsoever.
I hope this offer only strengthens feeling among colleagues and teachers as it felt like it lost momentum after the first strike, unfortunately.
My notes from their talk if any would like a summary:
Louise Atkinson, the NEU National President, opened the meeting, stating that 20,000 people were watching, with more joining as she spoke. The meeting was also accessible via social media. An FAQ will be posted in the coming days to address any questions.
Mary and Kevin then took over and presented a PowerPoint on the pay and funding offer following strike action and intensive discussions. They urged us to reject the offer in the strongest possible terms, as it is not good enough. The NEU wants to demonstrate to the government that teachers will no longer tolerate inadequate offers, and that a fully funded pay offer is necessary. We will receive an email explaining the details and a link to cast our vote. They encouraged us to vote to reject the offer.
Regarding the offer, it includes a £1,000 non-consolidated payment to all teachers and a 4.5% pay envelope for teachers in the 2023/2024 academic year, with 4.3% for experienced teachers. It is important to note that this offer is less favourable than the one given to teachers in Wales, where the Welsh government provided an additional payment of 3% for the 2022/23 academic year (1.5% consolidated pay rise and 1.5% one-off lump sum), along with a 5% pay rise from September 2023.
There will be an email with voting instructions. We need to stand together and demand a better offer for our hardworking educators.
There were also non-pay matters discussed during the meeting, alongside the pay dispute. Below is a summary of our requests and the government’s responses:
Independent review of inspection consequences on wellbeing and workload:
Government offer: Ofsted to clarify inspection expectations and review the complaints process for schools.
Automatic pay progression through the threshold and upper pay spine:
Government offer: Removal of the statutory requirement for Performance Related Pay (PRP) in pay decisions, but schools can still opt for PRP.
Statutory guidance on work-intensive tasks (e.g., photographing practical maths work):
Government offer: None, to preserve Headteachers’ autonomy.
Mandatory work-life balance policy in each school:
Government offer: None, deemed unreasonable.
There was talk of a workload task force with equal government and trade union membership:
Reinstatement of pay portability and mandatory pay spine points in the STPCD:
Government offer: None, both requests refused.
Additional government offers include aligning the STRB process with the school budget cycle, reiterating the importance of adhering to language on lunchtime, breaks, and ‘rarely cover’ within the STPCD, and reviewing the complaints procedure for parents.
The government’s offer is conditional, requiring all four union Executives to either make a neutral or positive recommendation to their members. If any union recommends rejection or refuses to put the offer forward, it will be withdrawn.
Despite these conditions, the NEU is recommending that we reject the offer. It is disheartening that basic rights, such as taking breaks and lunchtime, must be reiterated, and that teachers are regularly covering due to insufficient funding for cover teachers.
I will be rejecting this. If I work in Scotland I would get paid nearly 14 thousand pounds extra a year. You can see why there are 40 Scotland vacancies yet over twenty thousand in Enland.
Why are experienced teachers getting shafted? We already have people leaving and no one replacing them, who is going to do their job. No TAs to support the many EHCPs we have. And mu school are already 200k in debt. 4% non funded pay rise next year will only compound this.
Disgusting.
This is an insult of a pay offer, it’s below what every other public sector has been offered, below what teachers in Scotland and Wales were offered (who were already on better pay than us!) and it’s almost entirely unfunded!
If anyone still somehow believed that the Tories cared about the education of our children, this should be a massive eye-opener!
In contrast, the NASUWT response is pitiful. A short Twitter video that leaves out the, obviously unimportant, bit about the offer being unfunded and below what Wales and Scotland were offered, and basically sounds like a mouthpiece for the Government.
Just as a recommendation. Teach abroad, international schools are much better almost regardless of where you go.
Leave the sinking ship! You won’t regret it.
As a teacher… if it was fully funded I may have pinched my nose and accepted it. But it ain’t so fuck ‘em. I need new whiteboard pens.
As a teacher, this is downright insulting. My other half (private sector) has had roughly a 15% pay rise.
At this point, I don’t care about public opinion. We are one of the few industries that can genuinely bring a good portion of the country to a standstill. If the people/government want us to be glorified childcare, then we can withdraw it on a scale bigger than before.
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It’s a joke and embarrassment of the tories to not match the Scottish deal.
Anyone who votes in favour of this is voting to say they are worthless and enjoy being abused.
inflation at 10%
government offers 4.5%
with the 4% to come out of *existing school budgets that have already been slashed to the bone*
our rulers’ children don’t go to our schools. they don’t care about our children’s future. they don’t care about education for us.
we need to strike and strike hard. power is the only thing these people understand.
On the edge of quitting teaching. Think this might be the final straw.
Hard to identify the part of this that’s more insulting…
The 4.5% next year that is way below not only inflation but also what Wales and Scotland teachers got
The £1,000 one off payment that I’ve already lost half of due to strike action
The fact that only 0.5% would be funded, meaning schools would have to find the other 4% themselves, leading to further cuts in provision beyond what we’ve already seen.
Anyone who votes to accept this genuinely needs help. There is absolutely no reason to accept this offer whatsoever.
I hope this offer only strengthens feeling among colleagues and teachers as it felt like it lost momentum after the first strike, unfortunately.
My notes from their talk if any would like a summary:
Louise Atkinson, the NEU National President, opened the meeting, stating that 20,000 people were watching, with more joining as she spoke. The meeting was also accessible via social media. An FAQ will be posted in the coming days to address any questions.
Mary and Kevin then took over and presented a PowerPoint on the pay and funding offer following strike action and intensive discussions. They urged us to reject the offer in the strongest possible terms, as it is not good enough. The NEU wants to demonstrate to the government that teachers will no longer tolerate inadequate offers, and that a fully funded pay offer is necessary. We will receive an email explaining the details and a link to cast our vote. They encouraged us to vote to reject the offer.
Regarding the offer, it includes a £1,000 non-consolidated payment to all teachers and a 4.5% pay envelope for teachers in the 2023/2024 academic year, with 4.3% for experienced teachers. It is important to note that this offer is less favourable than the one given to teachers in Wales, where the Welsh government provided an additional payment of 3% for the 2022/23 academic year (1.5% consolidated pay rise and 1.5% one-off lump sum), along with a 5% pay rise from September 2023.
There will be an email with voting instructions. We need to stand together and demand a better offer for our hardworking educators.
There were also non-pay matters discussed during the meeting, alongside the pay dispute. Below is a summary of our requests and the government’s responses:
Independent review of inspection consequences on wellbeing and workload:
Government offer: Ofsted to clarify inspection expectations and review the complaints process for schools.
Automatic pay progression through the threshold and upper pay spine:
Government offer: Removal of the statutory requirement for Performance Related Pay (PRP) in pay decisions, but schools can still opt for PRP.
Statutory guidance on work-intensive tasks (e.g., photographing practical maths work):
Government offer: None, to preserve Headteachers’ autonomy.
Mandatory work-life balance policy in each school:
Government offer: None, deemed unreasonable.
There was talk of a workload task force with equal government and trade union membership:
Reinstatement of pay portability and mandatory pay spine points in the STPCD:
Government offer: None, both requests refused.
Additional government offers include aligning the STRB process with the school budget cycle, reiterating the importance of adhering to language on lunchtime, breaks, and ‘rarely cover’ within the STPCD, and reviewing the complaints procedure for parents.
The government’s offer is conditional, requiring all four union Executives to either make a neutral or positive recommendation to their members. If any union recommends rejection or refuses to put the offer forward, it will be withdrawn.
Despite these conditions, the NEU is recommending that we reject the offer. It is disheartening that basic rights, such as taking breaks and lunchtime, must be reiterated, and that teachers are regularly covering due to insufficient funding for cover teachers.
I will be rejecting this. If I work in Scotland I would get paid nearly 14 thousand pounds extra a year. You can see why there are 40 Scotland vacancies yet over twenty thousand in Enland.
Why are experienced teachers getting shafted? We already have people leaving and no one replacing them, who is going to do their job. No TAs to support the many EHCPs we have. And mu school are already 200k in debt. 4% non funded pay rise next year will only compound this.
Disgusting.
This is an insult of a pay offer, it’s below what every other public sector has been offered, below what teachers in Scotland and Wales were offered (who were already on better pay than us!) and it’s almost entirely unfunded!
If anyone still somehow believed that the Tories cared about the education of our children, this should be a massive eye-opener!
In contrast, the NASUWT response is pitiful. A short Twitter video that leaves out the, obviously unimportant, bit about the offer being unfunded and below what Wales and Scotland were offered, and basically sounds like a mouthpiece for the Government.
Just as a recommendation. Teach abroad, international schools are much better almost regardless of where you go.
Leave the sinking ship! You won’t regret it.
As a teacher… if it was fully funded I may have pinched my nose and accepted it. But it ain’t so fuck ‘em. I need new whiteboard pens.
As a teacher, this is downright insulting. My other half (private sector) has had roughly a 15% pay rise.
At this point, I don’t care about public opinion. We are one of the few industries that can genuinely bring a good portion of the country to a standstill. If the people/government want us to be glorified childcare, then we can withdraw it on a scale bigger than before.