Just for the mods, the original post wasn’t editorialised, The Independent just changed the title.
Is anyone else seeing the multiple advertisements for tents in the article?
It’s unfortunate, but it means that HAP recipients have to contribute a little towards their rent – it doesn’t mean that nobody will rent to them.
This is gotten to the point where is just malicious on behalf of the current goverment.
The amount of small landlords who are selling up because they aren’t getting listened to about how they are being pushed out of the market by larger cooperate landlords as they are being taxed a fraction in comparison means that they can’t compete with them. So they sell up as they are getting a better return by doing so.
The lack of affordable housing being built as these large firms just want to build luxury houses and apartments because it earns them higher profits.
The councils own lack of will to build social housing or do up existing derelect houses which has led to a huge underspend.
Not to mention a very lack luster regulation of the short term leasing market means home owners find it still more profitable to short term lease than it is to put the properties back on the long term rental market.
The fact that people can see homes as a profitable markey and buy homes for the purpose of short term leasing is very problematic. The regulations do not go far enough to protect the housing market from firms buying up hundreds of houses and leaving them empty or short term leasing as the regulations are full of loopholes they easily take advantage of.
Along with sheer lack of foresite on behalf of the goverment to prepare for a new and very large generation of people buying houses at once whilst constantly pushing people who should be in public housing into the private market because they didnt build anything themselves the last decade and instead hoped the private market would pick up the slack is started this whole mess to begin with.
At this point it just seems they did it on purpose.
there is a discretionary limit above the published limits to HAP of about 1/3. seems to be universally approved too
It’s HAPpening again
With HAP, tenants generally pay 15% of their income towards the rent. They are also allowed top up by 15% of their income, so pay 30% of their income. That’s standard.
They are also allowed to top up by more than that IF they prove it’s affordable for them, ie provide bank statements showing they are saving x amount per month.
In Dublin there is Homeless Hap which is generally 50% above the advertised rates and you need to prove homelessness or impending homelessness. So tenants with notices to quit now in Dublin will be eligible for Homeless Hap.
Outside Dublin the uplift is advertised Hap rate + 30%.
There’s exceptions and wriggle room on a few things but that’s generally correct.
Whole situation is a disgrace but it’s lazy journalism to quote one source [daft.ie](https://daft.ie) as a conclusive representation of the entire rental sector.
I have 2 x 4-bed houses for rent in Galway. Singles for approx 360 and double 390-420 and i haven’t put a room up on [Daft.ie](https://Daft.ie) in my life. Last time i had to actually advertise a room publicly was 2018. It’s all word of mouth nowadays. Before that i used to put them in the Galway Advertiser.
I dont want 50 emails per day and my phone ringing round the clock for 2 weeks and i’m not paying 200euro to advertise a room for 362euro per month.
Most small landlords in Ireland are in their 50s/60s and they dont use email and websites as their primary means of conducting business. Especially when an ad costs up to 200euro in a market where minimal advertising is required.
What i wonder is why we are not protesting like the french do.
He’s the master of his own HAPlessness
I heard on joe a few weeks ago when he was having landlords on, and most of them said they dont accept HAP. Why is that?
Would anyone be able to tell me if I can get HAP in a house share on a long-standing tenancy?
I make less that the cut off to get on the social housing list, so technically I can qualify for HAP.
I’m just wondering if it needs to be a new tenancy or if I could start getting HAP in my current situation if my landlord will accommodate it and DCC approve the housing list application?
B-but but the referendum lads. Hey look over here.
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Just for the mods, the original post wasn’t editorialised, The Independent just changed the title.
Is anyone else seeing the multiple advertisements for tents in the article?
It’s unfortunate, but it means that HAP recipients have to contribute a little towards their rent – it doesn’t mean that nobody will rent to them.
This is gotten to the point where is just malicious on behalf of the current goverment.
The amount of small landlords who are selling up because they aren’t getting listened to about how they are being pushed out of the market by larger cooperate landlords as they are being taxed a fraction in comparison means that they can’t compete with them. So they sell up as they are getting a better return by doing so.
The lack of affordable housing being built as these large firms just want to build luxury houses and apartments because it earns them higher profits.
The councils own lack of will to build social housing or do up existing derelect houses which has led to a huge underspend.
Not to mention a very lack luster regulation of the short term leasing market means home owners find it still more profitable to short term lease than it is to put the properties back on the long term rental market.
The fact that people can see homes as a profitable markey and buy homes for the purpose of short term leasing is very problematic. The regulations do not go far enough to protect the housing market from firms buying up hundreds of houses and leaving them empty or short term leasing as the regulations are full of loopholes they easily take advantage of.
Along with sheer lack of foresite on behalf of the goverment to prepare for a new and very large generation of people buying houses at once whilst constantly pushing people who should be in public housing into the private market because they didnt build anything themselves the last decade and instead hoped the private market would pick up the slack is started this whole mess to begin with.
At this point it just seems they did it on purpose.
there is a discretionary limit above the published limits to HAP of about 1/3. seems to be universally approved too
It’s HAPpening again
With HAP, tenants generally pay 15% of their income towards the rent. They are also allowed top up by 15% of their income, so pay 30% of their income. That’s standard.
They are also allowed to top up by more than that IF they prove it’s affordable for them, ie provide bank statements showing they are saving x amount per month.
In Dublin there is Homeless Hap which is generally 50% above the advertised rates and you need to prove homelessness or impending homelessness. So tenants with notices to quit now in Dublin will be eligible for Homeless Hap.
Outside Dublin the uplift is advertised Hap rate + 30%.
There’s exceptions and wriggle room on a few things but that’s generally correct.
Whole situation is a disgrace but it’s lazy journalism to quote one source [daft.ie](https://daft.ie) as a conclusive representation of the entire rental sector.
I have 2 x 4-bed houses for rent in Galway. Singles for approx 360 and double 390-420 and i haven’t put a room up on [Daft.ie](https://Daft.ie) in my life. Last time i had to actually advertise a room publicly was 2018. It’s all word of mouth nowadays. Before that i used to put them in the Galway Advertiser.
I dont want 50 emails per day and my phone ringing round the clock for 2 weeks and i’m not paying 200euro to advertise a room for 362euro per month.
Most small landlords in Ireland are in their 50s/60s and they dont use email and websites as their primary means of conducting business. Especially when an ad costs up to 200euro in a market where minimal advertising is required.
Compile the data from [rent.ie](https://rent.ie), [let.ie](https://let.ie), [daft.ie](https://daft.ie), [myhome.ie](https://myhome.ie), [rentola.ie](https://rentola.ie), every newspaper in Ireland and every local notice board in the country and then publish whatever figures you want.
What i wonder is why we are not protesting like the french do.
He’s the master of his own HAPlessness
I heard on joe a few weeks ago when he was having landlords on, and most of them said they dont accept HAP. Why is that?
Would anyone be able to tell me if I can get HAP in a house share on a long-standing tenancy?
I make less that the cut off to get on the social housing list, so technically I can qualify for HAP.
I’m just wondering if it needs to be a new tenancy or if I could start getting HAP in my current situation if my landlord will accommodate it and DCC approve the housing list application?
B-but but the referendum lads. Hey look over here.