REVEALED: At least 1,000 sex offenders – including multiple rapists – have avoided criminal records by apologising to their victims – as ‘out-of-court’ sanctions soar despite vows of a tougher stance on violence against women after Sarah Everard’s murder

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  1. I was in a post office the other day and a guy was being very aggressive to the staff, shouting and threatening. He needed something done with a lost oyster card but the PO staff said they were not able to help with this particular issue. He got mad and threatened to wait outside until the end of their shift. The staff said to him that they’d have to call the police. The thug said “so what, they do nothing, I’ll get a slap on the wrists”.

    The thug could barely speak English. He cannot have been in the UK very long based on his limited language skills but it amazed me that he already knew the old phrase “slap on the wrists” and that the “police will do nothing”. These are some of the first things this guy learned since moving here.

  2. One of the side effects of having an absolutely overwhelmed police, court and prison system – more cases are being dealt with via out of court disposals when they should not, and more offenders are being released when they shouldn’t be, because the system simply doesn’t have the capacity to deal with them the proper way.

    You can’t put someone in prison when the prison doesn’t have space, the courts don’t have time to trial and sentence, and the police don’t have the resources to investigate.

  3. Tories have realised you don’t actually need to be tough on crime… You just need to say you are whilst being lazy on it… and simultaneously accusing the opposition as being soft on it.

    There’s no reason to actually govern because the country vote for you anyway.

  4. A very important bit of information that is missing is that a victim has to consent to a community resolution before one is used. If the victim does not want one, it can’t happen.

    Some victims peeper this outcome – it’s quick, they get closure, they get an apology, and they often address the offender’s behaviour to prevent them doing it again. This is as opposed to a trial which could take years, they may appear in the local papers, and sentencing is garbage for low level sexual offences anyway. Victims essentially get to pick which one they want, and it is not unreasonable to pick the former.

    Sexual offences is of course an extremely wide net too. It includes rape, sex between teenagers, sexual assault, voyeurism, flashing, revenge porn, possessing extreme pornagraphy (even one photo), and more. Each of these cone with their own huge ranges – sexual assault can range from a stranger groping you to a close friend getting too handsy when drunk. All of these are crimes but some are not unreasonable to be dealt with out of court. If a victim of these offences would prefer it to be dealt with out of court, who are we to stop them?

  5. Would this explain how Mason Greenwood’s case got dropped despite evidence? Considering how’s she’s pregnant and engaged to him now after all that it shows the police have been very lax and have allowed the Stockholm Syndrome (they were childhood sweethearts after all) effect to take place. It’d be interesting what exactly this “new evidence” that the police stated was when they dropped the case and why it only suddenly appeared after a year with a baby and engagement on the way soon after? It’s all very concerning.

  6. This might leave a sour taste in your mouth, but the “only with the victims consent” should let you be at peace with it. Some people want these resolutions – They don’t have a desire for court cases, or potentially and more importantly, a desire to see their attacker suffer. Many people want someone to acknowledge they’ve done wrong, but not to ruin their lives, as outside of reddit it’s fairly common for people to accept that others have made a mistake which they sincerely regret.

    These will also show up forever on an enhanced DBS, which means in all liklihood they’ll never get to work with vulnerable people.

    People talk a lot about consent and justice, but seem to be struggling to understand that that means different things to different people.

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