Awaiting the “it’s way worse in other countries” comments. We have to do better here. Don’t pass a blind eye…call out racism if you see it. That’s the only way to stop these ignorant arseholes.
Hate exists unfortunately. Thankfully it’s something I’ve never witnessed happening.
Even watching first dates last night, and one of the guys (who’s gay) talking about how he’d be very wary of where he’d hold someone’s hand or kiss in public. Just fucking awful.
Most racism that’s discussed is about black people. I think it goes well beyond that though and it’s rarely discussed.
I’ve said this before but we have a real ignorance about us on the whole I find. Calling anyone from east of Poland “Russian” is just ignorant. Lithuania, Latvia and a multitude of other independent states exist lads. And when you try to correct people, you’re often met with “ah sure they’re all the same” or “ya know what I mean”. These are the exact fucks that go mad if we’re lumped in with the British.
And casually using slurs when referring to Asian places, people or cuisine is far too accepted too.
Should we all be racist now father?
Maybe there’s just one racist being super racist and travelling around the country
Not to downplay but hasn’t everybody witnessed racism in some form at some point in their lives? There are bigots, racists and general bad people in every facet of life. Shit, just go on twitter for 1 minute a day. I’m actually shocked it’s only 2 in 3.
That definition is casting so wide a net I’m surprised its not 3 out of 3.
We’re not particularly racist, we’re not particularly not racist. Grabbing a screencap of an article without the context of the article or the context of the survey the article is referencing is just lazy bait.
I saw teenage girls call other Spanish girls “whores” and shouting “puta” at them. Never felt so ashamed to be Irish, imagine coming to Ireland to study only to be abused for being different.
Swap Ireland for literally any country and it’s the same.
People are racist, homophobic, misogynistic, hateful, and general pieces of shit.
Of course people aren’t all of those things too but still.
It’s not isolated to Ireland.
Honestly not shocked. I used to walk kids home from school and on one occasion a car full of builders slowed down to shout the n-word and make monkey noises at the two kids at the front of my group. The oldest kid was 11. I let a roar at the lads and gave the number plate to the gardaí but I doubt anything was done. What really broke me was that the eldest kid just said they were used to it and didn’t seem to care. A lot of people saying they’ve never seen it are white Irish with no friends darker than themselves, so they’ve much less a chance of witnessing anything.
With the “racism is everywhere” maxim what I think is interesting is that most Irish racism I’ve seen is veiled, people won’t call you names to your face or openly discriminate you but you know it’s there, it’s the way they talk to you or the way they treat you even if they’re telling themselves during it they’re not being racist.
And then you always have a couple scumbags that will put it into action. It’s a problem everywhere of course, and I understand that a lot of people grew up without ever meeting someone different but I think the best way to try and combat it is policing ourselves and not being afraid of what’s different.
As someone who is a queer American of Asian descent, living in Ireland is pretty much the same as really anywhere tbh. Being in cities here and there, you’ll have an easier time being an immigrant, being a racial minority, or being gay. Of course when you go to somewhere outside of the cities, you’ll be faced with more slightly racist and homophobic remarks, but I think generally people in Ireland are a lot more friendly and less threatening (guns being a major issue in the US for sure). Couple of things I would point out though are that I never got to feel I was American until I moved to Ireland and was recognized as a yank and the government in the US is lowkey terrifying me with its xenophobic remarks against Asians and the history of it and the possible repeat of it, even though I was born in the US. I’m not sure if those born here and are of Asian descent face the same issue, even though it was highlighted in an episode of Derry Girls.
At the base of it all, I think it’s really down to people’s exposure to the world and others. A lot of the questions I would get from people here would be mostly out of curiosity, even though some slightly with a racist twinge and might make some cringe, but I think, or at least I hope, once more and more people get exposed to each other from other parts of the world, it’ll be more easier for folks to get used to each other and such.
The main problem is the racism disguised as craic.
That’s fucking shite. I hope the eejits that are racist towards them don’t ruin the image of the country in the students eyes
The guy who pics the stock photos for articles definitely think he’s done a great job here. He’s seen that photo and said….perfect!
Does anyone else think this is a completely useless statistic?
Everyone means something different by “racism”, so this tells me absolutely nothing.
So I hear you’re a bit of a racist, father.
Come to Poland. That’s it.
It’s terrible in schools, I went through the whole schooling system in Ireland and didn’t face too much racism. Had a great bunch of friends that would always stick up for me. But right now my sister is getting bullied in school because she’s not Irish and it’s awful. She doesn’t want to go to school anymore. Apparently the school knows about it (and other cases of racism), but tells the children to just ignore it and move on. Easier said than done by a 14 year old.
I’ve recently had an awful experience and learned the extent that small-town, small-minded Irish people are willing to take xenophobia. I’m white, but most Irish people can tell I’m not “one of them” and they’ll always ask where I’m from (I was born here, but to immigrants). I didn’t used to mind it but recently I had an awful experience where I basically got mobbed for being not-local at a local meeting (…in the town I live in). Absolutely horrifying to see the townspeople I’d wave at in the street, turn on me and tell me I’m not Irish enough to be there. If they can do that to a white, English-speaking, Irish-born woman, what would they feel comfortable doing to someone who looks/seems even more foreign?
I am black and no one sits next to me on the bus and if they do it’s because the bus is full and no other seats are available. They do that to other black people as well. It’s brought me to tears a few times.
I’ve never been to a country and not experienced or seen racism directed towards any nationality or race, going by the broad range of things racism encompasses. I’m frankly surprised 1/3 international students haven’t witnessed racism, and assume they’re just people who are less “sensitive” as to what should or shouldn’t be considered racism.
Like, every Irish person who’s been the Spain tells the same story, they’re treated poorly be locals until they say they’re Irish, then the locals are nice and tell them they thought they were English. That is racism (yes English isn’t a race, but race is a construct even less meaningful than nationality).
I’d say 95% of Irish people are openly racist towards travellers. If you don’t witness racism in ireland, you simply haven’t been talking to the Irish enough.
My wife is Japanese. The height of the racism she experienced in 5 years living in Ireland, was some scumbag in Tesco car park saying “Ching Chong” .. to which she replied “I’m not Chinese”
I don’t think that normal every day people are outwardly racist. I don’t mind the odd racist joke between friends though. Hope that doesn’t make me a bad guy.
My wife’s grandfather was Nigerian making her father probably one of the first modern black Irish in our area (in the 50’s). My wife used to get called all those names as a kid. Especially from this one guy who’s now a paragon of virtue and anti racism online. I really really want to call him out on it but my wife is terrified of him because of how he treated her as a kid. Anyway my point is, racism is a LOT more prevalent than we even realise. People are hiding it but it’s there. They are becoming more emboldened to let it out
This sub is 98pc racist when it comes to Travellers-imvolved posts so the numbers are no surprise. When you accept one form of discrimination you make room for them all.
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Did the other 1/3 just avoid going out in public?
Awaiting the “it’s way worse in other countries” comments. We have to do better here. Don’t pass a blind eye…call out racism if you see it. That’s the only way to stop these ignorant arseholes.
Hate exists unfortunately. Thankfully it’s something I’ve never witnessed happening.
Even watching first dates last night, and one of the guys (who’s gay) talking about how he’d be very wary of where he’d hold someone’s hand or kiss in public. Just fucking awful.
Most racism that’s discussed is about black people. I think it goes well beyond that though and it’s rarely discussed.
I’ve said this before but we have a real ignorance about us on the whole I find. Calling anyone from east of Poland “Russian” is just ignorant. Lithuania, Latvia and a multitude of other independent states exist lads. And when you try to correct people, you’re often met with “ah sure they’re all the same” or “ya know what I mean”. These are the exact fucks that go mad if we’re lumped in with the British.
And casually using slurs when referring to Asian places, people or cuisine is far too accepted too.
Should we all be racist now father?
Maybe there’s just one racist being super racist and travelling around the country
Not to downplay but hasn’t everybody witnessed racism in some form at some point in their lives? There are bigots, racists and general bad people in every facet of life. Shit, just go on twitter for 1 minute a day. I’m actually shocked it’s only 2 in 3.
That definition is casting so wide a net I’m surprised its not 3 out of 3.
We’re not particularly racist, we’re not particularly not racist. Grabbing a screencap of an article without the context of the article or the context of the survey the article is referencing is just lazy bait.
I saw teenage girls call other Spanish girls “whores” and shouting “puta” at them. Never felt so ashamed to be Irish, imagine coming to Ireland to study only to be abused for being different.
Swap Ireland for literally any country and it’s the same.
People are racist, homophobic, misogynistic, hateful, and general pieces of shit.
Of course people aren’t all of those things too but still.
It’s not isolated to Ireland.
Honestly not shocked. I used to walk kids home from school and on one occasion a car full of builders slowed down to shout the n-word and make monkey noises at the two kids at the front of my group. The oldest kid was 11. I let a roar at the lads and gave the number plate to the gardaí but I doubt anything was done. What really broke me was that the eldest kid just said they were used to it and didn’t seem to care. A lot of people saying they’ve never seen it are white Irish with no friends darker than themselves, so they’ve much less a chance of witnessing anything.
With the “racism is everywhere” maxim what I think is interesting is that most Irish racism I’ve seen is veiled, people won’t call you names to your face or openly discriminate you but you know it’s there, it’s the way they talk to you or the way they treat you even if they’re telling themselves during it they’re not being racist.
And then you always have a couple scumbags that will put it into action. It’s a problem everywhere of course, and I understand that a lot of people grew up without ever meeting someone different but I think the best way to try and combat it is policing ourselves and not being afraid of what’s different.
As someone who is a queer American of Asian descent, living in Ireland is pretty much the same as really anywhere tbh. Being in cities here and there, you’ll have an easier time being an immigrant, being a racial minority, or being gay. Of course when you go to somewhere outside of the cities, you’ll be faced with more slightly racist and homophobic remarks, but I think generally people in Ireland are a lot more friendly and less threatening (guns being a major issue in the US for sure). Couple of things I would point out though are that I never got to feel I was American until I moved to Ireland and was recognized as a yank and the government in the US is lowkey terrifying me with its xenophobic remarks against Asians and the history of it and the possible repeat of it, even though I was born in the US. I’m not sure if those born here and are of Asian descent face the same issue, even though it was highlighted in an episode of Derry Girls.
At the base of it all, I think it’s really down to people’s exposure to the world and others. A lot of the questions I would get from people here would be mostly out of curiosity, even though some slightly with a racist twinge and might make some cringe, but I think, or at least I hope, once more and more people get exposed to each other from other parts of the world, it’ll be more easier for folks to get used to each other and such.
The main problem is the racism disguised as craic.
That’s fucking shite. I hope the eejits that are racist towards them don’t ruin the image of the country in the students eyes
The guy who pics the stock photos for articles definitely think he’s done a great job here. He’s seen that photo and said….perfect!
Does anyone else think this is a completely useless statistic?
Everyone means something different by “racism”, so this tells me absolutely nothing.
So I hear you’re a bit of a racist, father.
Come to Poland. That’s it.
It’s terrible in schools, I went through the whole schooling system in Ireland and didn’t face too much racism. Had a great bunch of friends that would always stick up for me. But right now my sister is getting bullied in school because she’s not Irish and it’s awful. She doesn’t want to go to school anymore. Apparently the school knows about it (and other cases of racism), but tells the children to just ignore it and move on. Easier said than done by a 14 year old.
I’ve recently had an awful experience and learned the extent that small-town, small-minded Irish people are willing to take xenophobia. I’m white, but most Irish people can tell I’m not “one of them” and they’ll always ask where I’m from (I was born here, but to immigrants). I didn’t used to mind it but recently I had an awful experience where I basically got mobbed for being not-local at a local meeting (…in the town I live in). Absolutely horrifying to see the townspeople I’d wave at in the street, turn on me and tell me I’m not Irish enough to be there. If they can do that to a white, English-speaking, Irish-born woman, what would they feel comfortable doing to someone who looks/seems even more foreign?
I am black and no one sits next to me on the bus and if they do it’s because the bus is full and no other seats are available. They do that to other black people as well. It’s brought me to tears a few times.
I’ve never been to a country and not experienced or seen racism directed towards any nationality or race, going by the broad range of things racism encompasses. I’m frankly surprised 1/3 international students haven’t witnessed racism, and assume they’re just people who are less “sensitive” as to what should or shouldn’t be considered racism.
Like, every Irish person who’s been the Spain tells the same story, they’re treated poorly be locals until they say they’re Irish, then the locals are nice and tell them they thought they were English. That is racism (yes English isn’t a race, but race is a construct even less meaningful than nationality).
I’d say 95% of Irish people are openly racist towards travellers. If you don’t witness racism in ireland, you simply haven’t been talking to the Irish enough.
My wife is Japanese. The height of the racism she experienced in 5 years living in Ireland, was some scumbag in Tesco car park saying “Ching Chong” .. to which she replied “I’m not Chinese”
I don’t think that normal every day people are outwardly racist. I don’t mind the odd racist joke between friends though. Hope that doesn’t make me a bad guy.
My wife’s grandfather was Nigerian making her father probably one of the first modern black Irish in our area (in the 50’s). My wife used to get called all those names as a kid. Especially from this one guy who’s now a paragon of virtue and anti racism online. I really really want to call him out on it but my wife is terrified of him because of how he treated her as a kid. Anyway my point is, racism is a LOT more prevalent than we even realise. People are hiding it but it’s there. They are becoming more emboldened to let it out
This sub is 98pc racist when it comes to Travellers-imvolved posts so the numbers are no surprise. When you accept one form of discrimination you make room for them all.