armenia probably realises how russian military doctrine is not sustainable in the modern day and age and requires an enormous sacrifice of manpower and equipment for marginal succes.
At that point you might aswell leave the CSTO.
Wow!! First Georgia now Armenia. Russia has started losing influence in Caucasus too
Thanks Vladimir
Ex-soviet republics are each day more similar to Bernarda Alba’s house.
That’s what you get when you don’t help your ally that your ex goverment(Soviets) screwed up in past. Together with Azerbaijan.
Armenia, Kazakhstan was saying no recently as well. You mean Russia isn’t a military superpower with a reliable leader?
Who else read that as “abandoning CSGO exercises”?
This story is false. The [Armenian MOD has confirmed](https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32354054.html) that they will not be participating in the “Defender 2023” exercise, though they were earlier listed as a participant online. Instead they will be joining the smaller-scale KFOR and Saber Junction exercises, neither of which are explicitly NATO events, and Armenia has [previously participated](https://am.usembassy.gov/armenian-troops-depart-training-europe/) in both.
Armenia is certainly pivoting away from CSTO due to the alliance’s failure to support them over the past years, but they’re not yet embracing NATO to quite the same extent as many on here believe. That is understandable given their geographic position, and the fact that their rival no.2 is in NATO.
>In addition to the United States, troops from Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, Czechia, Denmark, Estonia, France, Georgia, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Italy, Kosovo, Moldova, Montenegro, Netherlands, North Macedonia, Poland, Romania, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden and the United Kingdom will all take part in Defender 23.
No mention of Armenia.
Basically CSTO participating in NATO maneuvers
Curious what’s Turkey’s take on this, does anyone have info?
After how Russia literately betrayed them in 2020, the only logical move, even if the Russian invasion into Ukraine (which should make any democratic nation loosening its ties with this autocratic terror state) is not taken into consideration.
Turkey always can be convinced. Real deal is Russia. If Armenia joins Nato someday, it means Russia is long gone. It’s not like Finland or Sweden.
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armenia probably realises how russian military doctrine is not sustainable in the modern day and age and requires an enormous sacrifice of manpower and equipment for marginal succes.
At that point you might aswell leave the CSTO.
Wow!! First Georgia now Armenia. Russia has started losing influence in Caucasus too
Thanks Vladimir
Ex-soviet republics are each day more similar to Bernarda Alba’s house.
That’s what you get when you don’t help your ally that your ex goverment(Soviets) screwed up in past. Together with Azerbaijan.
Armenia, Kazakhstan was saying no recently as well. You mean Russia isn’t a military superpower with a reliable leader?
Who else read that as “abandoning CSGO exercises”?
This story is false. The [Armenian MOD has confirmed](https://www.azatutyun.am/a/32354054.html) that they will not be participating in the “Defender 2023” exercise, though they were earlier listed as a participant online. Instead they will be joining the smaller-scale KFOR and Saber Junction exercises, neither of which are explicitly NATO events, and Armenia has [previously participated](https://am.usembassy.gov/armenian-troops-depart-training-europe/) in both.
Armenia is certainly pivoting away from CSTO due to the alliance’s failure to support them over the past years, but they’re not yet embracing NATO to quite the same extent as many on here believe. That is understandable given their geographic position, and the fact that their rival no.2 is in NATO.
Here is an official source:
[https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/3353612/multinational-exercise-defender-23-kicks-off-this-month-in-europe/](https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/3353612/multinational-exercise-defender-23-kicks-off-this-month-in-europe/)
>In addition to the United States, troops from Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, Czechia, Denmark, Estonia, France, Georgia, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Italy, Kosovo, Moldova, Montenegro, Netherlands, North Macedonia, Poland, Romania, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden and the United Kingdom will all take part in Defender 23.
No mention of Armenia.
Basically CSTO participating in NATO maneuvers
Curious what’s Turkey’s take on this, does anyone have info?
After how Russia literately betrayed them in 2020, the only logical move, even if the Russian invasion into Ukraine (which should make any democratic nation loosening its ties with this autocratic terror state) is not taken into consideration.
Turkey always can be convinced. Real deal is Russia. If Armenia joins Nato someday, it means Russia is long gone. It’s not like Finland or Sweden.