Don’t see why such a thing has been made of this! That area of the city is in desperate need of development and the trees that have been removed are being replaced by even more trees.
The centre of Plymouth is a post war concrete wasteland.
You’ve removed the only things softening the awful architecture.
They’ve been stripping all the interesting parts of the high street for a little while now. Supposedly it’s being built up again but a bit more modernised but I don’t trust the council not to leave it bare and barren.
City centre shops are shite anyway. Like Peter Griffin says. “Real shops suck!”
That Council official is right… if the city wants to look like a war zone
Without trees the air can’t be purified from the toxins
I’m from Suffolk and have been working in Plymouth very recently. They need more trees!
I know the person who was in-charge of the original development. He has no idea what they are thinking. The whole think is supposed to represent Dartmoor, now it just looks horrific.
Lots of trees being chopped down in cities and towns to make way for cycle lanes. Save the environment by destroying it first.
What does the arborial impact assessment and planning decision say?
What happens to the wood?
Do they sell it? I always wonder what councils do with old trees. I’m assuming it doesn’t just get dumped.
They tried this in Sheffield, didn’t end well for them.
Read ‘Plymouth tree feeling really good’ then looks at picture… Nope
I moved away when I was 9 back in 2000 do they still have those wooden animal horse / giraffe things outside what used to be Woolworths? That was the one glimmer of playful joy in that concrete wasteland.
The redevelopment plans look alright, but I also really liked the trees that were there before. Tbh the main issue with that part of the centre are the *buildings* not the trees – while some of the post war structures are imo fairly interesting (albeit uncared for), most of it was always a bit depressing
They are also chopping them all down, in and around Luton.
When I moved to Plymouth last August, I remember thinking I liked how the city centre felt green. I liked it.
Not good for nature and that is what we need more of by the day. It’s the best protection against air pollution that we have and city centres are terrible for that, not to mention that trees are simply nice to look at and break up the concrete skyline we have everywhere. The council saying it is good does not make it so.
I love how they’re bringing that East European post communist style to Plymouth.
You always know when they’re doing something good for a city: they do it in the dead of night without telling anyone.
Like a lot of towns and cities, destroying the trees and hedges is a way to reduce costs, as they need to have people to go out and maintain them.
Even though they need to have birds and insects etc….but you know fuck them we need to save money, but councilors etc get increased wages…
Wow a barren wasteland!
That’s gonna be great in the summer, especially a heatwave – no shade, nothing to reflect the heat & nothing to naturally cool the surrounding area.
Haha, good luck to Plymouthians in a heatwave – they’re about to learn how much trees affect the temperature.
Although apparently they are going to replace this with a new green space with even more plants, we are becoming more aware that with trees, it’s not just quantity but age that helps the environment. Newly-planted trees take about 10 years till they start taking in a decent amount of carbon and between 50-100 years before their carbon intake actually makes a difference. Roughly 70% of a tree’s entire carbon intake is actually collected in the latter half of their lifetime.
It just reminds me of how we would always be promised that trees would be replanted every time a new highway comes up, and then nobody is paid to actually look after the saplings and they all die within months, leaving behind bare banks and empty plastic tree guards. I’m not saying that’s gonna happen here… but can we rly trust them to leave the new green space alone for at least 30 years? This is just ego-stroking and green-washing to me.
WTF would have been wrong with replacing them piecemeal?? The only excuse is so the hired contractor could get a pile of cash at once instead of over a decade or so.
If this was a properly run private garden they’d have a decade-long plan of succession. Somehow this town didn’t bother to consult real arborists
I hope you like Judge Dredd Megacities, cause it’s all you’re getting.
when will they learn how important trees really are
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Don’t see why such a thing has been made of this! That area of the city is in desperate need of development and the trees that have been removed are being replaced by even more trees.
The centre of Plymouth is a post war concrete wasteland.
You’ve removed the only things softening the awful architecture.
They’ve been stripping all the interesting parts of the high street for a little while now. Supposedly it’s being built up again but a bit more modernised but I don’t trust the council not to leave it bare and barren.
City centre shops are shite anyway. Like Peter Griffin says. “Real shops suck!”
That Council official is right… if the city wants to look like a war zone
Without trees the air can’t be purified from the toxins
I’m from Suffolk and have been working in Plymouth very recently. They need more trees!
I know the person who was in-charge of the original development. He has no idea what they are thinking. The whole think is supposed to represent Dartmoor, now it just looks horrific.
Lots of trees being chopped down in cities and towns to make way for cycle lanes. Save the environment by destroying it first.
What does the arborial impact assessment and planning decision say?
What happens to the wood?
Do they sell it? I always wonder what councils do with old trees. I’m assuming it doesn’t just get dumped.
They tried this in Sheffield, didn’t end well for them.
Read ‘Plymouth tree feeling really good’ then looks at picture… Nope
I moved away when I was 9 back in 2000 do they still have those wooden animal horse / giraffe things outside what used to be Woolworths? That was the one glimmer of playful joy in that concrete wasteland.
The redevelopment plans look alright, but I also really liked the trees that were there before. Tbh the main issue with that part of the centre are the *buildings* not the trees – while some of the post war structures are imo fairly interesting (albeit uncared for), most of it was always a bit depressing
They are also chopping them all down, in and around Luton.
When I moved to Plymouth last August, I remember thinking I liked how the city centre felt green. I liked it.
Not good for nature and that is what we need more of by the day. It’s the best protection against air pollution that we have and city centres are terrible for that, not to mention that trees are simply nice to look at and break up the concrete skyline we have everywhere. The council saying it is good does not make it so.
I love how they’re bringing that East European post communist style to Plymouth.
You always know when they’re doing something good for a city: they do it in the dead of night without telling anyone.
Like a lot of towns and cities, destroying the trees and hedges is a way to reduce costs, as they need to have people to go out and maintain them.
Even though they need to have birds and insects etc….but you know fuck them we need to save money, but councilors etc get increased wages…
Wow a barren wasteland!
That’s gonna be great in the summer, especially a heatwave – no shade, nothing to reflect the heat & nothing to naturally cool the surrounding area.
Haha, good luck to Plymouthians in a heatwave – they’re about to learn how much trees affect the temperature.
Although apparently they are going to replace this with a new green space with even more plants, we are becoming more aware that with trees, it’s not just quantity but age that helps the environment. Newly-planted trees take about 10 years till they start taking in a decent amount of carbon and between 50-100 years before their carbon intake actually makes a difference. Roughly 70% of a tree’s entire carbon intake is actually collected in the latter half of their lifetime.
It just reminds me of how we would always be promised that trees would be replanted every time a new highway comes up, and then nobody is paid to actually look after the saplings and they all die within months, leaving behind bare banks and empty plastic tree guards. I’m not saying that’s gonna happen here… but can we rly trust them to leave the new green space alone for at least 30 years? This is just ego-stroking and green-washing to me.
WTF would have been wrong with replacing them piecemeal?? The only excuse is so the hired contractor could get a pile of cash at once instead of over a decade or so.
If this was a properly run private garden they’d have a decade-long plan of succession. Somehow this town didn’t bother to consult real arborists
I hope you like Judge Dredd Megacities, cause it’s all you’re getting.
when will they learn how important trees really are