But I thought Rwanda was lovely according to ministers, hard to threaten someone with what’s basically wonderland…
From a place of complete ignorance it wouldn’t surprise me that it’s basically being used in place of “shut the fuck up”.
The minute someone complains about the conditions there’ll be some absolute scum bag that hates their job saying something along the lines of ” would you rather be shipped off to Rwanda?”
I doubt there have been credible threats, but more it’s just another awful way to justify treating people as less than human.
I think at this point I want to actually go to Rwanda
Asylum Seeker – “the conditions here that we’re forced to in live are quite bad, can we improve it please?”
Government – “Rwanda”
Yet again with the Tories, the cruelty is the point.
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I wonder how much the government is getting out of this slave trade that they are now engaged in, it takes going back to the bad old days tomits extreme.
the only reason why gov is doing this is after years of suicide and poor conditions in g4s and other contracted out detention centres. Yarls wood being the worse as it changed purposes. They know it’ll be much harder for asylum seekers to appeal or talk to their lawyers and reduce scandal leaking to the press.
at least you are safe. You are in no place to ask for “conditions” when you are begging the UK to grant you safety from where ever you came as far as basic survival needs and safety are given.
Seems fair don’t like what we are offering then go somewhere else
Please reach out to me instead and I’ll share the conditions with global press
I have watched a video on the Rwandan homes being built, and to be honest, it doesn’t seem like a very good ‘threat’.
The homes being built for refugees look modern, spacious and airy. I can imagine the accommodation the refugees are forced to live in are cold, mouldy and without any modcons.
That’s such a shot bluff, because they all know it’s not going to happen lol
The more I look into Rwanda the more it’s clear there’s racist assumptions about the country because its in Africa. Its been commended by the EU and UN for good reason: One of the first countries to ban single use plastics. It has MORE female legislators than men. GDP growth of 8% a year. Full fibre and 4g coverage. And the asylum accommodation is better than what UK students have to live in and certainly than the moldy crap you get from many UK landlords. Also affectionately praised by economists as the Singapore of Africa.
You can find a middle ground between a human rights violation and a luxury spa experience, something those in favour of the Rwanda policy forget. Besides, if the government actually processed applications quickly or made it easier to enter the UK legally to claim asylum then this problem would disappear.
You do realise the hard right has been growing of the immigrant problem. One of the main reasons they are pushing through with Rwanda is because of the protests that have been happening around the country recently? This is the Torys counter to the growth of patriotic alternative.
>The majority of asylum seekers the charity is supporting are people of colour.
What majority white countries apart from Ukraine and possibly Albania would people be fleeing from? I can’t imagine that a white can claim to be facing persecution in Norway, Australia or Canada.
Do these people leave their home countries,cross lots of safe countries just to claim asylum in UK?I don’t really follow news or politics so I don’t know.
Improving conditions costs money.Threatening people is basically free.They are only being fiscally responsible!
Right until they found a company that may be hired to ‘improve conditions’ at a certain price.
Well if you don’t like it. Don’t come here illegally I guess.
You should actually read the article that even the Guardian can’t sugarcoat.
“Concerns highlighted in the report include that:
More than half complain of overcrowding, a lack of privacy and having to spend more than six months living in a hotel. Some single adults have spent more than two and a half years in hotels.”
With all due respect we have actual UK citizens struggling to make ends meet and yet these people are complaining because they’re living in a hotel and they’re being given not just food but a weekly allowance?! Maybe actually speak to the people stopping in the hotels with the migrants and see what they actually think of the UK and its citizens, according to reports they not only hurl insults but even go out of their way to piss and shit in the hallways.. just like they did when they stopped in the “inhumane” army barracks.
May I also remind many that the “mothers and children” are a tiny minority of the migrants who are in fact men of fighting age some of which are from Albania which isn’t even at war and are purely economic migrants here to further strain our resources, I won’t even mention the crime increase in areas with a high number of migrants.
I’m sure some are genuinely good people.. but it’s hard to feel sorry for those when they’ve skipped so many countries along the way to come here simply because our benefits are the highest.
Off to Rwanda you fuck.
Where have I seen this before? But instead of Rwanda it was a single trainticket to Poland?
I didn’t think this government could get any lower. Scum, the lot of them.
Honestly a bit jealous of this from an American perspective.
In America people are abusing the asylum system and our gov just releases them into the interior of the country.
With the way things are going, it would be more effective to threaten them with approval to stay
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But I thought Rwanda was lovely according to ministers, hard to threaten someone with what’s basically wonderland…
From a place of complete ignorance it wouldn’t surprise me that it’s basically being used in place of “shut the fuck up”.
The minute someone complains about the conditions there’ll be some absolute scum bag that hates their job saying something along the lines of ” would you rather be shipped off to Rwanda?”
I doubt there have been credible threats, but more it’s just another awful way to justify treating people as less than human.
I think at this point I want to actually go to Rwanda
Asylum Seeker – “the conditions here that we’re forced to in live are quite bad, can we improve it please?”
Government – “Rwanda”
Yet again with the Tories, the cruelty is the point.
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I wonder how much the government is getting out of this slave trade that they are now engaged in, it takes going back to the bad old days tomits extreme.
the only reason why gov is doing this is after years of suicide and poor conditions in g4s and other contracted out detention centres. Yarls wood being the worse as it changed purposes. They know it’ll be much harder for asylum seekers to appeal or talk to their lawyers and reduce scandal leaking to the press.
at least you are safe. You are in no place to ask for “conditions” when you are begging the UK to grant you safety from where ever you came as far as basic survival needs and safety are given.
Seems fair don’t like what we are offering then go somewhere else
Please reach out to me instead and I’ll share the conditions with global press
I have watched a video on the Rwandan homes being built, and to be honest, it doesn’t seem like a very good ‘threat’.
The homes being built for refugees look modern, spacious and airy. I can imagine the accommodation the refugees are forced to live in are cold, mouldy and without any modcons.
That’s such a shot bluff, because they all know it’s not going to happen lol
The more I look into Rwanda the more it’s clear there’s racist assumptions about the country because its in Africa. Its been commended by the EU and UN for good reason: One of the first countries to ban single use plastics. It has MORE female legislators than men. GDP growth of 8% a year. Full fibre and 4g coverage. And the asylum accommodation is better than what UK students have to live in and certainly than the moldy crap you get from many UK landlords. Also affectionately praised by economists as the Singapore of Africa.
You can find a middle ground between a human rights violation and a luxury spa experience, something those in favour of the Rwanda policy forget. Besides, if the government actually processed applications quickly or made it easier to enter the UK legally to claim asylum then this problem would disappear.
You do realise the hard right has been growing of the immigrant problem. One of the main reasons they are pushing through with Rwanda is because of the protests that have been happening around the country recently? This is the Torys counter to the growth of patriotic alternative.
>The majority of asylum seekers the charity is supporting are people of colour.
What majority white countries apart from Ukraine and possibly Albania would people be fleeing from? I can’t imagine that a white can claim to be facing persecution in Norway, Australia or Canada.
Do these people leave their home countries,cross lots of safe countries just to claim asylum in UK?I don’t really follow news or politics so I don’t know.
Improving conditions costs money.Threatening people is basically free.They are only being fiscally responsible!
Right until they found a company that may be hired to ‘improve conditions’ at a certain price.
Well if you don’t like it. Don’t come here illegally I guess.
You should actually read the article that even the Guardian can’t sugarcoat.
“Concerns highlighted in the report include that:
More than half complain of overcrowding, a lack of privacy and having to spend more than six months living in a hotel. Some single adults have spent more than two and a half years in hotels.”
With all due respect we have actual UK citizens struggling to make ends meet and yet these people are complaining because they’re living in a hotel and they’re being given not just food but a weekly allowance?! Maybe actually speak to the people stopping in the hotels with the migrants and see what they actually think of the UK and its citizens, according to reports they not only hurl insults but even go out of their way to piss and shit in the hallways.. just like they did when they stopped in the “inhumane” army barracks.
May I also remind many that the “mothers and children” are a tiny minority of the migrants who are in fact men of fighting age some of which are from Albania which isn’t even at war and are purely economic migrants here to further strain our resources, I won’t even mention the crime increase in areas with a high number of migrants.
I’m sure some are genuinely good people.. but it’s hard to feel sorry for those when they’ve skipped so many countries along the way to come here simply because our benefits are the highest.
Off to Rwanda you fuck.
Where have I seen this before? But instead of Rwanda it was a single trainticket to Poland?
I didn’t think this government could get any lower. Scum, the lot of them.
Honestly a bit jealous of this from an American perspective.
In America people are abusing the asylum system and our gov just releases them into the interior of the country.
With the way things are going, it would be more effective to threaten them with approval to stay