I know let’s have a lockdown to avoid having to lock down.
Well looks like another lockdown on the way! Hopefully furlough comes back so i can kick back and watch netflix again all day
Stop complying.
It’s now the flu, it’s literally endemic and is going to go around every year from now on. Stop living in fear and live your life.
The vaccines don’t work, lockdowns don’t work.
You’re going to get it, you’re probably going to be fine.
Ps) I’m vaccinated, I wear a mask but that doesn’t mean you can ignore reality.
Edit;
I was wrong, let’s lock everyone down, let’s vaccinate the babies and the young and everything is wonderful. The government and pharmaceutical companies are only focused on our health and well being, it’s not like they make money when we’re sick and dying 🙂
It doesn’t work like this. If R will be more than 1, it will keep growing to the peak either way. To get R less than 1, it seems lockdown is only thing that would work. So I don’t see how making stricter rules now would help. If anything, let’s first see if situation actually even gets anywhere near as bad as predicted by some models before imposing lockdown.
My employer decided to let us WFH but only with manager’s approval, it’s a joke, businesses decided the pandemic is over and this will end in lockdown unless Omicron is much milder which I don’t think is a punt businesses should be allowed to make, if it goes wrong the government doesn’t bear any responsibility.
It’s reached the point where lockdowns cause more damage than the virus. We’ve all been offered the vaccine, what exactly is the end game? Zero Covid? Practically impossible now.
I’m not sure they will do another lockdown. During the last lockdown the vaccinations were in progress and it was seen as our way out. What now?
People should just turn off the news and social media including Reddit..and covid will just disappear almost instantly..try it for 2 weeks..
Can’t see anyone taking a lockdown seriously after the magic that happened at number 10 last year
This government has lost ratings from so many people I’d be surprised if people complied with a national lockdown
If they want another lockdown they’re going to have to cough up some dough, otherwise they’ll be told no.
So most people are vaccinated, some have boosters, nearly everyone had it and are immune now, and somehow last years measures are “NOWHERE NEAR ENOUGH”. Smh
Oh for fuck sake, what is the fucking point anymore? Lockdowns, masks, distancing, vaccines (which I’ve had both of), isolating, testing and tracing … we’ve thrown literally everything at this and two years later we’re still talking about shutting the country down again. I’d sooner die than live through this endless depressing life we’ve known for nearly two years.
This is clearly a war we CANNOT win, vaccines were our best shot at beating this but this virus changes too much to keep up. This is seeming like the end of the road – there isn’t anything we can do anymore and the scientists seem to also be scratching their heads about what we do next. Let’s just live with this shit and accept the natural risks of life.
Or just get on with life and bear the brunt. It’s endemic, it’ll be with us forever. Let’s stop the suicide rate from increasing now. It’s time to stop. Let people get back to life especially when fully vaccinated and not vulnerable.
If you look at the amount of people in London who haven’t even had their first vaccine it’s scary
Covid bedwetters are the problem. They are after the liberty of everyone else.
No to a lockdown, at some point you have to just accept that covid is here and let everyone get back to their lives.
You can see the Government have got the media to push the narrative that all hell is breaking loose to scare people.
I’ve seen the Daily Mail saying that up 75,000 could die over the next few months.
The scare mongering is absolutely disgusting.
I say this as someone who is extremely vulnerable, whilst I agree with the wearing of masks were appropriate and of course vaccinations, people need to be allowed to get on with lives now.
It is no longer a Pandemic, it’s endemic.
As for Omicron varient, I believe the Government has over reacted, not because they want to save lives, but because the population living in fear suites them.
If they cared about us they would of locked down much harder and quicker at the outset.
If they care about the population they wouldn’t of spent the last decade squeezing the life out the NHS.
Thr Government are fearful of another wave not because of the loss of life, but it shows how massively underfunded the NHS has been and still is.
This Pandemic has shown how hugely understaffed the NHS.
The fact is that for next few years at least we will likely to see a few hundred people die each week of covid-19, it simply can’t be helped.
Those of us who are vaccinated and have done what we can to help limit the spread over the 18 months need to be able to get on with our lives.
We know what is safe for ourselves, what is acceptable level of risk for ourselves.
Those who for whatever haven’t gotten the vaccine, that is there choice and they are the taking the risk.
Personally I would say if you require hospital care and you are not vaccinated, you will be billed.
This will come directly out of your pay / benefits.
Many people today refuse to accept that whilst you are free to make your own decision, they will always have a consequence.
The consequence of you not have the vaccine should be that you will be made to pay if you get covid-19 and require hospitalisation.
You can’t have it both ways, one hand claiming that you don’t need the vaccine because covid-19 is more dangerous then the vaccine but then say its unfair to have pay if you get sick from covid-19.
We should be free to make our own choices, especially considering this Government has proven time and again that the only thing care about is making their friends richer and their pushing their own careers.
I don’t think the people are willing to tolerate another lockdown we were told to sacrifice 2 years of our lives for the most vulnerable while a vaccine was developed asking for another full lockdown is asking for lockdowns to become the status quo with no hope of them ever ending.
I’m not willing to accept that standard of living sorry, It’s essentially gulag conditions.
If the whole hospitality sector, non-essential shops all kept open and the people kept on socialising during any lockdown, than that would show that we are winning and the corrupt tories aren’t!
Whenever I see ‘experts say’ it means a couple of connunist scientists have. We’ve given the public the most protection we’ll ever have now the best thing to do is leave me alone!
I mean, we’ve been saying it because Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland have been doing what England calls Plan B for months. But fuck listening to the experience and data of anyone outside the m25 eh?
It’s getting boring watching england do the barest fucking minimum while they have the rest of the UK countries’ budgets by the baws and we can’t even lock down if we wanted to unless england does.
What seems to be missed in this discussion is that a lot of us are now very suspicious that any of the sacrifice was ‘worth it’. Evidence has mounted for literal years now thar covid has always been negligibly dangerous to people under a certain age. That we could always have had selective enforced shielding rather than full lockdowns. That those in charge felt sufficiently unthreatened by covid to break the rules willy nilly.
It begs the question of if those with all the data aren’t following the rules that are ostensibly to keep us all safe… how helpful actually are they, and to what extent is it theatre?
I have a holiday to iceland booked in like 3 weeks. Id rather know asap if its cancelled.
Oh fuck off, for several reasons.
1. Ministers quite evidently don’t care. Last year was the first Christmas away from my family and it was heartbreaking for all concerned. Meanwhile the government got drunk and partied.
2. Chris Whitty might be quite happy to live in a perpetual state of fear and constant lockdowns, but for the rest of us we have lives to live and I can feel myself wasting away waiting for him to finally chill out. I feel like he’s going to be saying “just one more lockdown” for the rest of his days.
3. As a taxpayer who worked all the way through, I’m not in favour of being forced to pay for others to have time off any more. All I got was a fucking round of applause.
4. Chris Whitty seems to have forgotten that covid isn’t the only thing out there. He has become so blinded that there are multiple other crises on the horizon as a direct effect of his constant lockdowns.
Honestly at this stage I’m more afraid of Chris Whitty than I am of the virus.
I still don’t understand how a band is supposed to save Christmas.
I’m sure they’re all terrified of the no deaths that Omicron has caused
There’s a lot of scaremongering going on at the moment. The other day, SAGE apparently projected that there could be up to 10,000 hospitalisations a day – well, if the new variant is as severe as Delta, that means there would need to be over 10 times as many cases as there have been to cause our current level of ~800. That implies about 600,000 reported positive cases per day, or if you believe the Zoe numbers, close to a million actual new infections. That is obviously completely unrealistic.
And the 75,000 deaths looks similarly unlikely. There have only been 25,000 since the summer. Most of the population has some vaccination based immunity, nearly 40% (and rising quickly) have a third dose, and a lot of the population also has immunity from being infected (10 million reported positive cases, likely considerably more people actually had it).
This is all without imagining Omicron to be less severe. We don’t have good data for that yet, though preliminary signs are encouraging.
People who want tight restrictions now will always want them, and that is something we need to resist for the sake of living in a liberal democracy.
Covid is going to be here forever, what we need to do is ensure the NHS has the capacity to deal with it and not be looking to restrict freedoms all the time.
> Deepti Gurdasani
Ah, of course. Zero covid lunatic and enemy of the people
If we’re going to lockdown in and out all the time can we just do it for the rest of our lives. It’s my generation that will be paying for all this. This sounds disrespectful but we’re sacrificing a huge chunk of time in our lives for people who have a few years in their lives to live at the most and then we’re going to be the ones paying for the current 60+ year olds to be able to retire.
I don’t mean to sound stupid but I don’t understand why omicron has changed the direction of things so much when by most official accounts it is a fairly mild version
Anyone who complies with anymore of this unscientific nonsense doesn’t deserve to have their lives back.
Crack on as normal and ignore all these hypocrites behind the cabinet who mug the people off daily.
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I know let’s have a lockdown to avoid having to lock down.
Well looks like another lockdown on the way! Hopefully furlough comes back so i can kick back and watch netflix again all day
Stop complying.
It’s now the flu, it’s literally endemic and is going to go around every year from now on. Stop living in fear and live your life.
The vaccines don’t work, lockdowns don’t work.
You’re going to get it, you’re probably going to be fine.
Ps) I’m vaccinated, I wear a mask but that doesn’t mean you can ignore reality.
Edit;
I was wrong, let’s lock everyone down, let’s vaccinate the babies and the young and everything is wonderful. The government and pharmaceutical companies are only focused on our health and well being, it’s not like they make money when we’re sick and dying 🙂
It doesn’t work like this. If R will be more than 1, it will keep growing to the peak either way. To get R less than 1, it seems lockdown is only thing that would work. So I don’t see how making stricter rules now would help. If anything, let’s first see if situation actually even gets anywhere near as bad as predicted by some models before imposing lockdown.
My employer decided to let us WFH but only with manager’s approval, it’s a joke, businesses decided the pandemic is over and this will end in lockdown unless Omicron is much milder which I don’t think is a punt businesses should be allowed to make, if it goes wrong the government doesn’t bear any responsibility.
It’s reached the point where lockdowns cause more damage than the virus. We’ve all been offered the vaccine, what exactly is the end game? Zero Covid? Practically impossible now.
I’m not sure they will do another lockdown. During the last lockdown the vaccinations were in progress and it was seen as our way out. What now?
People should just turn off the news and social media including Reddit..and covid will just disappear almost instantly..try it for 2 weeks..
Can’t see anyone taking a lockdown seriously after the magic that happened at number 10 last year
This government has lost ratings from so many people I’d be surprised if people complied with a national lockdown
Goodness looks concerning. Reads “Deepti Gurdasani”, ah okay.
Stand down everyone.
If they want another lockdown they’re going to have to cough up some dough, otherwise they’ll be told no.
So most people are vaccinated, some have boosters, nearly everyone had it and are immune now, and somehow last years measures are “NOWHERE NEAR ENOUGH”. Smh
Oh for fuck sake, what is the fucking point anymore? Lockdowns, masks, distancing, vaccines (which I’ve had both of), isolating, testing and tracing … we’ve thrown literally everything at this and two years later we’re still talking about shutting the country down again. I’d sooner die than live through this endless depressing life we’ve known for nearly two years.
This is clearly a war we CANNOT win, vaccines were our best shot at beating this but this virus changes too much to keep up. This is seeming like the end of the road – there isn’t anything we can do anymore and the scientists seem to also be scratching their heads about what we do next. Let’s just live with this shit and accept the natural risks of life.
Or just get on with life and bear the brunt. It’s endemic, it’ll be with us forever. Let’s stop the suicide rate from increasing now. It’s time to stop. Let people get back to life especially when fully vaccinated and not vulnerable.
If you look at the amount of people in London who haven’t even had their first vaccine it’s scary
Covid bedwetters are the problem. They are after the liberty of everyone else.
No to a lockdown, at some point you have to just accept that covid is here and let everyone get back to their lives.
You can see the Government have got the media to push the narrative that all hell is breaking loose to scare people.
I’ve seen the Daily Mail saying that up 75,000 could die over the next few months.
The scare mongering is absolutely disgusting.
I say this as someone who is extremely vulnerable, whilst I agree with the wearing of masks were appropriate and of course vaccinations, people need to be allowed to get on with lives now.
It is no longer a Pandemic, it’s endemic.
As for Omicron varient, I believe the Government has over reacted, not because they want to save lives, but because the population living in fear suites them.
If they cared about us they would of locked down much harder and quicker at the outset.
If they care about the population they wouldn’t of spent the last decade squeezing the life out the NHS.
Thr Government are fearful of another wave not because of the loss of life, but it shows how massively underfunded the NHS has been and still is.
This Pandemic has shown how hugely understaffed the NHS.
The fact is that for next few years at least we will likely to see a few hundred people die each week of covid-19, it simply can’t be helped.
Those of us who are vaccinated and have done what we can to help limit the spread over the 18 months need to be able to get on with our lives.
We know what is safe for ourselves, what is acceptable level of risk for ourselves.
Those who for whatever haven’t gotten the vaccine, that is there choice and they are the taking the risk.
Personally I would say if you require hospital care and you are not vaccinated, you will be billed.
This will come directly out of your pay / benefits.
Many people today refuse to accept that whilst you are free to make your own decision, they will always have a consequence.
The consequence of you not have the vaccine should be that you will be made to pay if you get covid-19 and require hospitalisation.
You can’t have it both ways, one hand claiming that you don’t need the vaccine because covid-19 is more dangerous then the vaccine but then say its unfair to have pay if you get sick from covid-19.
We should be free to make our own choices, especially considering this Government has proven time and again that the only thing care about is making their friends richer and their pushing their own careers.
I don’t think the people are willing to tolerate another lockdown we were told to sacrifice 2 years of our lives for the most vulnerable while a vaccine was developed asking for another full lockdown is asking for lockdowns to become the status quo with no hope of them ever ending.
I’m not willing to accept that standard of living sorry, It’s essentially gulag conditions.
If the whole hospitality sector, non-essential shops all kept open and the people kept on socialising during any lockdown, than that would show that we are winning and the corrupt tories aren’t!
Whenever I see ‘experts say’ it means a couple of connunist scientists have. We’ve given the public the most protection we’ll ever have now the best thing to do is leave me alone!
I mean, we’ve been saying it because Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland have been doing what England calls Plan B for months. But fuck listening to the experience and data of anyone outside the m25 eh?
It’s getting boring watching england do the barest fucking minimum while they have the rest of the UK countries’ budgets by the baws and we can’t even lock down if we wanted to unless england does.
What seems to be missed in this discussion is that a lot of us are now very suspicious that any of the sacrifice was ‘worth it’. Evidence has mounted for literal years now thar covid has always been negligibly dangerous to people under a certain age. That we could always have had selective enforced shielding rather than full lockdowns. That those in charge felt sufficiently unthreatened by covid to break the rules willy nilly.
It begs the question of if those with all the data aren’t following the rules that are ostensibly to keep us all safe… how helpful actually are they, and to what extent is it theatre?
I have a holiday to iceland booked in like 3 weeks. Id rather know asap if its cancelled.
Oh fuck off, for several reasons.
1. Ministers quite evidently don’t care. Last year was the first Christmas away from my family and it was heartbreaking for all concerned. Meanwhile the government got drunk and partied.
2. Chris Whitty might be quite happy to live in a perpetual state of fear and constant lockdowns, but for the rest of us we have lives to live and I can feel myself wasting away waiting for him to finally chill out. I feel like he’s going to be saying “just one more lockdown” for the rest of his days.
3. As a taxpayer who worked all the way through, I’m not in favour of being forced to pay for others to have time off any more. All I got was a fucking round of applause.
4. Chris Whitty seems to have forgotten that covid isn’t the only thing out there. He has become so blinded that there are multiple other crises on the horizon as a direct effect of his constant lockdowns.
Honestly at this stage I’m more afraid of Chris Whitty than I am of the virus.
I still don’t understand how a band is supposed to save Christmas.
I’m sure they’re all terrified of the no deaths that Omicron has caused
There’s a lot of scaremongering going on at the moment. The other day, SAGE apparently projected that there could be up to 10,000 hospitalisations a day – well, if the new variant is as severe as Delta, that means there would need to be over 10 times as many cases as there have been to cause our current level of ~800. That implies about 600,000 reported positive cases per day, or if you believe the Zoe numbers, close to a million actual new infections. That is obviously completely unrealistic.
And the 75,000 deaths looks similarly unlikely. There have only been 25,000 since the summer. Most of the population has some vaccination based immunity, nearly 40% (and rising quickly) have a third dose, and a lot of the population also has immunity from being infected (10 million reported positive cases, likely considerably more people actually had it).
This is all without imagining Omicron to be less severe. We don’t have good data for that yet, though preliminary signs are encouraging.
People who want tight restrictions now will always want them, and that is something we need to resist for the sake of living in a liberal democracy.
Covid is going to be here forever, what we need to do is ensure the NHS has the capacity to deal with it and not be looking to restrict freedoms all the time.
> Deepti Gurdasani
Ah, of course. Zero covid lunatic and enemy of the people
If we’re going to lockdown in and out all the time can we just do it for the rest of our lives. It’s my generation that will be paying for all this. This sounds disrespectful but we’re sacrificing a huge chunk of time in our lives for people who have a few years in their lives to live at the most and then we’re going to be the ones paying for the current 60+ year olds to be able to retire.
I don’t mean to sound stupid but I don’t understand why omicron has changed the direction of things so much when by most official accounts it is a fairly mild version
Anyone who complies with anymore of this unscientific nonsense doesn’t deserve to have their lives back.
Crack on as normal and ignore all these hypocrites behind the cabinet who mug the people off daily.