750k? lol. 2005 census has it at 18k, per wiki. He must be drawing that figure from everyone who thinks toasting slainte counts as speaking a language.
There’s actually a higher percentage of Ulster Scots descended Irish in America so y’know, they might wanna give up the cosplay and accept that they’re *just* American.
36 million that “are” Irish?
Or call themselves Irish?
Left Ireland for the USA when I was very little. I’ve always told people I meet that if you wouldn’t be allowed to represent Ireland’s Olympic team or the soccer team you aren’t Irish.
There’s loads of genuine plastic over here claiming their “25% blood from their great great great grandfather” makes them Irish as anyone off the boat. But don’t lump all of us in with them!
“Close to 50% of the Irish immigrated during the duration of the famine”??
1 million emigrated from a population of 8 million.
Is 12.5% close to 50%??
Jesus. “during the duration”.
Along with lots else in that.
Just wait till they find out we’re all from Africa….
What they’re embracing is a fan fiction to their ancestors. That’s a US identity thing.
Not till they stop calling it “St Pattys Day”!
These people invariably make the mistake of viewing Ireland as a caricature of what it once was, as opposed to what it now is.
It’s entirely irrelevant if contemporary Irish move away from any of the old tired traditional tropes held so dear by Irish Americans. We participating in modern Irish society determine together what it means to be Irish, and no one else. If we as a nation move in a particular direction then that becomes the new ‘Irish’ and nothing these casuistic fuckers say can change that.
Ok yanks, give me a synopsis of the current plotlines on Fair city
All this tells me is that we are top shaggers 🍆
I am an American who moved to Ireland last year for work. While I am primarily of Irish ancestry, I don’t identify as “Irish American” and also think those that are more than two generations removed from their family emigrating to the US shouldn’t identify as such.
That being said–it’s hard to understand why Americans identify with their historical ethnic origin in the way they do if you aren’t from here. Almost everyone in the US (with the exception of Native Americans) are not indigenous to the continent. The US (and subsequent culture) was historically based on English society and norms, and protestantism was and is the main denomination of society. Individuals from this background (those from GB as well as ulster scots) easily conformed into mainstream American society, whereas those coming from primarily catholic cultures tended to have an insular community and did not initially melt into the “American mainstream.” While there is no stigma between catholicism and protestantism today in the US, there is a trend of those coming from primarily catholic countries (notably Ireland and Italy) to strongly identify with their historic roots. The same can be said about Jewish Americans and their ethnic identification. I would say that this is harmless and those who make comments like this are in the vast minority of “Irish Americans.”
Admit it lads, we’re just jealous of their tartan
Stop dying the fucking beer green on the best day of the year and we’ll fucking talk!
My father is Irish. He moved to the states when he was 26. Had me and my brothers and settled down in upstate NY…
The number of my classmates and friends claiming to be Irish was bananas. I never once said I was or felt Irish at all (sorry dad). And maybe my cousins when I’d visit ireland on holiday also contributed to that too.
Then I moved to Boston….wtf Boston. Outside the lads packing into apartments to play illegal soccer and paint…none of you are friggin Irish and about 99% of you are half French Canadian or Italian or waspy
This is just like if Brazilians start calling themselves as Portuguese
The same people will also say Ireland is in the UK…
Yank here. He don’t represent us.
Some sort of the Dunning Kruger type shit is going on with Irish Americans.
They have such little knowledge of the Irish culture, that they think they are the ones “embracing it” by wearing a green shirt on Paddys day and saying “Slainte”
“750k Irish speakers in America” is total bullshit, I’d be surprised if they could even get data on this because of how low the number actually would be. And funnily enough, of all the non-native people I’ve met that can speak Irish (a total of 2 people) not a single one was an “Irish-American” (anecdotal evidence yea, but to me here its just clearly Irish Americans bullshitting that they can speak Irish)
“That’s correct Ma’am, A’m as Irish as she comes.
My great great uncle “DON-AH-KAH, O’LEERY” was borned n raired in County Bray sometime in the 1800’s, he was a vikings who roamed the lands of Lough Ness”
750,000 irish speakers? More like 750!
r/shitamericanssay
Ever since being told in the Midwest by my barber that she was 1/3 Irish, I decided the Irish-American movement was horseshit.
Start paying taxes?
As an American of mostly Irish descent, I hate this kind of chest-thumping stupidity. I remember visiting Chicago when I was a child and spending time with my mother’s family, who were proud of their Irish heritage. I’ve visited Ireland twice and loved it.
All that said, I’m not “more Irish than the Irish,” or any of that nonsense. What a load of fucking twaddle.
I’m a Yank who who would consider himself of Irish descent but very much consider myself American. My fathers maternal grandmother, so my great mother, moved here with her family and they all just just kinda scattered around the country depending on work. I think for a lot of “Irish Americans”, “German Americans”, “Italian Americans”, etc the initial settlement here often meant a complete stripping of your identity/culture to assimilate/make it in a new world. In my opinion that’s why so many Americans grasp for the culture of their ancestors. I just lurk here, again don’t consider myself Irish, but I would say that I feel a connection to it. Some of the food I ate, names given in my family, stories told, etc were effected/influenced by Irish culture and I look at Ireland with a lot of love. I genuinely love the place, the people there, and want what’s best for it. Perhaps this makes me a plastic paddy lol certainly open to that possibility but I think there’s many “Irish Americans” who realize we are indeed not Irish but love the place all the same because people we love, and those before them, loved it. Just my thoughts, maybe shit, maybe warranted, I’ll let you guys judge that lol
This is why it’s important to use the term “diaspora” correctly. I’m not Irish; I’m Irish diaspora. There’s a huge difference. We can still celebrate and take part in the living Irish culture together, but that difference is really important.
That’s like saying cordial is the same as juice, if you ask me
Gobshites. ‘Embracing it more’ doesn’t mean drinking Guinness once a year, saying ‘up the RA’ and making jokes about the Irish being drunk and violent (like Biden).
Lads, some rich people like you. Be smart and indulge them, and we can take some of the money.
are these “750k Irish speakers in america” In the room with us right now?
Fuck off. Just because someone in your family left Ireland 170 years ago it doesn’t always you Irish.
Get over yourself my god the entitlement. Also why is this thread full of yanks
This is ridiculous. Irish Americans aren’t “more Irish” lol. I’m of Irish, Scott and Czech decent. I would never claim to be “more” of any of those things. I’m American. Lol.
But you’ve got to understand, as a nation of immigrants, many people here try to keep cultural traditions alive and hold respect for the countries their ancestors came from. It’s part of what makes American culture unique. You have Popular American culture but all these wonderful subcultures as well. There is no requirement for total assimilation to be considered American.
Share in our ideals… but keep your cultures, traditions, food and pride of heritage… and share them with the rest of us. At least.., that what we aspire to do. But claiming to be “more Irish” than the Irish? lol. What a clown.
750k Irish speakers in America? Jaysus, they must be smoking right stuff over there
What an asshole!
“Abandoning our pride” is probably trumpist dog-whistle for letting non-white people into Ireland.
You’re not Irish, you’re American. The vast majority of your population seems to have this weird complex where just being American is not enough. You seem to have this weird need to also be something from somewhere else while at the same time being rar rar America!
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I don’t get it. I’m English, that’s fine, I don’t feel the need to find out I’m x% Irish, x%German and x%whatever so that I can claim to be German English and then go on to co op, water down and change German traditions of which I know nothing of and have never experienced.
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You’re American. That’s absolute fine, why is that not enough for you? No idea how actual real people from Ireland take these claims, it’d annoy the shit out of me.
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750k? lol. 2005 census has it at 18k, per wiki. He must be drawing that figure from everyone who thinks toasting slainte counts as speaking a language.
There’s actually a higher percentage of Ulster Scots descended Irish in America so y’know, they might wanna give up the cosplay and accept that they’re *just* American.
36 million that “are” Irish?
Or call themselves Irish?
Left Ireland for the USA when I was very little. I’ve always told people I meet that if you wouldn’t be allowed to represent Ireland’s Olympic team or the soccer team you aren’t Irish.
There’s loads of genuine plastic over here claiming their “25% blood from their great great great grandfather” makes them Irish as anyone off the boat. But don’t lump all of us in with them!
“Close to 50% of the Irish immigrated during the duration of the famine”??
1 million emigrated from a population of 8 million.
Is 12.5% close to 50%??
Jesus. “during the duration”.
Along with lots else in that.
Just wait till they find out we’re all from Africa….
What they’re embracing is a fan fiction to their ancestors. That’s a US identity thing.
Not till they stop calling it “St Pattys Day”!
These people invariably make the mistake of viewing Ireland as a caricature of what it once was, as opposed to what it now is.
It’s entirely irrelevant if contemporary Irish move away from any of the old tired traditional tropes held so dear by Irish Americans. We participating in modern Irish society determine together what it means to be Irish, and no one else. If we as a nation move in a particular direction then that becomes the new ‘Irish’ and nothing these casuistic fuckers say can change that.
Ok yanks, give me a synopsis of the current plotlines on Fair city
All this tells me is that we are top shaggers 🍆
I am an American who moved to Ireland last year for work. While I am primarily of Irish ancestry, I don’t identify as “Irish American” and also think those that are more than two generations removed from their family emigrating to the US shouldn’t identify as such.
That being said–it’s hard to understand why Americans identify with their historical ethnic origin in the way they do if you aren’t from here. Almost everyone in the US (with the exception of Native Americans) are not indigenous to the continent. The US (and subsequent culture) was historically based on English society and norms, and protestantism was and is the main denomination of society. Individuals from this background (those from GB as well as ulster scots) easily conformed into mainstream American society, whereas those coming from primarily catholic cultures tended to have an insular community and did not initially melt into the “American mainstream.” While there is no stigma between catholicism and protestantism today in the US, there is a trend of those coming from primarily catholic countries (notably Ireland and Italy) to strongly identify with their historic roots. The same can be said about Jewish Americans and their ethnic identification. I would say that this is harmless and those who make comments like this are in the vast minority of “Irish Americans.”
Admit it lads, we’re just jealous of their tartan
Stop dying the fucking beer green on the best day of the year and we’ll fucking talk!
My father is Irish. He moved to the states when he was 26. Had me and my brothers and settled down in upstate NY…
The number of my classmates and friends claiming to be Irish was bananas. I never once said I was or felt Irish at all (sorry dad). And maybe my cousins when I’d visit ireland on holiday also contributed to that too.
Then I moved to Boston….wtf Boston. Outside the lads packing into apartments to play illegal soccer and paint…none of you are friggin Irish and about 99% of you are half French Canadian or Italian or waspy
This is just like if Brazilians start calling themselves as Portuguese
The same people will also say Ireland is in the UK…
Yank here. He don’t represent us.
Some sort of the Dunning Kruger type shit is going on with Irish Americans.
They have such little knowledge of the Irish culture, that they think they are the ones “embracing it” by wearing a green shirt on Paddys day and saying “Slainte”
“750k Irish speakers in America” is total bullshit, I’d be surprised if they could even get data on this because of how low the number actually would be. And funnily enough, of all the non-native people I’ve met that can speak Irish (a total of 2 people) not a single one was an “Irish-American” (anecdotal evidence yea, but to me here its just clearly Irish Americans bullshitting that they can speak Irish)
“That’s correct Ma’am, A’m as Irish as she comes.
My great great uncle “DON-AH-KAH, O’LEERY” was borned n raired in County Bray sometime in the 1800’s, he was a vikings who roamed the lands of Lough Ness”
750,000 irish speakers? More like 750!
r/shitamericanssay
Ever since being told in the Midwest by my barber that she was 1/3 Irish, I decided the Irish-American movement was horseshit.
Start paying taxes?
As an American of mostly Irish descent, I hate this kind of chest-thumping stupidity. I remember visiting Chicago when I was a child and spending time with my mother’s family, who were proud of their Irish heritage. I’ve visited Ireland twice and loved it.
All that said, I’m not “more Irish than the Irish,” or any of that nonsense. What a load of fucking twaddle.
I’m a Yank who who would consider himself of Irish descent but very much consider myself American. My fathers maternal grandmother, so my great mother, moved here with her family and they all just just kinda scattered around the country depending on work. I think for a lot of “Irish Americans”, “German Americans”, “Italian Americans”, etc the initial settlement here often meant a complete stripping of your identity/culture to assimilate/make it in a new world. In my opinion that’s why so many Americans grasp for the culture of their ancestors. I just lurk here, again don’t consider myself Irish, but I would say that I feel a connection to it. Some of the food I ate, names given in my family, stories told, etc were effected/influenced by Irish culture and I look at Ireland with a lot of love. I genuinely love the place, the people there, and want what’s best for it. Perhaps this makes me a plastic paddy lol certainly open to that possibility but I think there’s many “Irish Americans” who realize we are indeed not Irish but love the place all the same because people we love, and those before them, loved it. Just my thoughts, maybe shit, maybe warranted, I’ll let you guys judge that lol
This is why it’s important to use the term “diaspora” correctly. I’m not Irish; I’m Irish diaspora. There’s a huge difference. We can still celebrate and take part in the living Irish culture together, but that difference is really important.
That’s like saying cordial is the same as juice, if you ask me
Gobshites. ‘Embracing it more’ doesn’t mean drinking Guinness once a year, saying ‘up the RA’ and making jokes about the Irish being drunk and violent (like Biden).
Lads, some rich people like you. Be smart and indulge them, and we can take some of the money.
are these “750k Irish speakers in america” In the room with us right now?
Fuck off. Just because someone in your family left Ireland 170 years ago it doesn’t always you Irish.
Get over yourself my god the entitlement. Also why is this thread full of yanks
This is ridiculous. Irish Americans aren’t “more Irish” lol. I’m of Irish, Scott and Czech decent. I would never claim to be “more” of any of those things. I’m American. Lol.
But you’ve got to understand, as a nation of immigrants, many people here try to keep cultural traditions alive and hold respect for the countries their ancestors came from. It’s part of what makes American culture unique. You have Popular American culture but all these wonderful subcultures as well. There is no requirement for total assimilation to be considered American.
Share in our ideals… but keep your cultures, traditions, food and pride of heritage… and share them with the rest of us. At least.., that what we aspire to do. But claiming to be “more Irish” than the Irish? lol. What a clown.
750k Irish speakers in America? Jaysus, they must be smoking right stuff over there
What an asshole!
“Abandoning our pride” is probably trumpist dog-whistle for letting non-white people into Ireland.
You’re not Irish, you’re American. The vast majority of your population seems to have this weird complex where just being American is not enough. You seem to have this weird need to also be something from somewhere else while at the same time being rar rar America!
​
I don’t get it. I’m English, that’s fine, I don’t feel the need to find out I’m x% Irish, x%German and x%whatever so that I can claim to be German English and then go on to co op, water down and change German traditions of which I know nothing of and have never experienced.
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You’re American. That’s absolute fine, why is that not enough for you? No idea how actual real people from Ireland take these claims, it’d annoy the shit out of me.