Salary for teachers’ union chief restored to almost €200,000
Maybe future teachers should be paid less to make up the shortfall? Let’s put it to a vote.
My kids school lost 7 teachers before the start of this year cause they all moved to counties cheaper to live in as they still get paid the same. Dublin is a year or two from a collapse in the education system.
I believe from what I heard on the news today only a small percentage (I believe 10-15%) are offered full time position once trained.
The system encouraged principles and schools to keep people in substitute roles for a very long time with no carrot at the end of it.
So I’d say it’s equal parts cost of living and rents and equal parts how new graduates have been treated.
Rasputin is not impressed
I smell a strike!
***”When people saved in the 1980s for a house, they endured hardship but at least had a guarantee of a prize: a house at the other end. Today, you can save indefinitely but rent goes up and the threat of eviction is ever-present*** ”
Pretty sure they up and left. Assuming hes working full time hours?
What about equal pay for equal work, teachers? No? Solidarity with younger comrades? No? None of that? What kind of a union do you run around here anyway?
Join the fucking q, imagine these fuckers complaining when they have 3 months holidays a year plus the normal allowance of annual leave everyone else gets.
Its symptomatic of the problem that Dublin and housing is unaffordable for much of the public sector and essential services will deteriorate. IT and consultants won’t bring people to hospitals, patrol the streets or teach classes.
What do places that have decades-old housing crises do to keep the likes of nurses, cops, and teachers in jobs in urban areas despite shite public wages with respect to cost of living?
Places like San Francisco or New York where these type of shite’s been let fester since the 80s.
Second week of Easter- time for the teachers to come on and claim they spend every afternoon, evening and weekend doing “lesson plans”
It’s absolutely not a job I’d do but teachers seem to think they’ve the monopoly on shit work
The teachers can get fucked. Everyone else in the public sector is in the same boat
All the usual teacher-bashing in this shithole subreddit. Can’t wait to see how even more fucked this country is if this is the attitude we have towards the people who literally shape the future of our youth. Bring on another 10+ years of Fianna Fáil/Fine Gael and housing crises!
People have been mad to go into teaching since about 2015.
You have gone in since then knowing you wont buy a house and will be house sharing.
Doing that and then moaning about it as if its a surprise its pretty stupid.
Emigrate or retrain.
This will take a major crisis before salaries will be reviewed, as in a school in Varadkars constituency not opening as they have no teachers.
Some of the best paid teachers on planet earth
I’m a teacher and I’m on the lower payscale. Of the circle of 12 friends I had in college, only myself and one other girl are still teaching. I suppose the other 10 had more sense to move on. After leaving college, I’d say about 50-60% of the friends I’ve made in schools have left to work abroad for better conditions, better pay and affordable housing.
I haven’t left because I really love my job. However, because of my particular job, I’m constantly up against devastating child protection cases and often aggressive or overly needy parents (although many of them are lovely). Nevermind the ever-growing paperwork and planning outside of school hours. I’m approaching burn out already and I’m thinking about my options. I’m not even 30 yet.
We can’t get subs so children are going days without being taught because our staff is already stretched thin.
This isn’t just an issue for teachers by the way. I see it happening in preschools, social workers are snowed under, and the waitlist for assessments are years long. There’s short falls everywhere and children are paying for it. It’s very sad to see.
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Maybe they should *teach* themselves how to budget
*I’ve had to wear itchy jumpers and grow this awful beard just to keep warm.*
– This guy.
I mean, it’s taking its toll on a lot of people. Why single out teachers?
This is a tangent.
But what annoys me about articles like this is that they’ll belabour the amount of time it takes to be a teacher “2 years postgraduate diploma”.
It takes longer to qualify as literally anything else. Accountant, electrician, solicitor, carpenter, anything.
Becoming a teacher is the easiest thing in the world, the job is hard I’m sure, but there are 0 entry barriers.
Every Easter the teachers assemble…….and provide ammunition to the media to beat them down.
Spare a thought for those on minimum wage.
[https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/education/2023/04/11/into-members-vote-to-restore-union-chiefs-salary-to-almost-200000/](https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/education/2023/04/11/into-members-vote-to-restore-union-chiefs-salary-to-almost-200000/)
Salary for teachers’ union chief restored to almost €200,000
Maybe future teachers should be paid less to make up the shortfall? Let’s put it to a vote.
My kids school lost 7 teachers before the start of this year cause they all moved to counties cheaper to live in as they still get paid the same. Dublin is a year or two from a collapse in the education system.
I believe from what I heard on the news today only a small percentage (I believe 10-15%) are offered full time position once trained.
The system encouraged principles and schools to keep people in substitute roles for a very long time with no carrot at the end of it.
So I’d say it’s equal parts cost of living and rents and equal parts how new graduates have been treated.
Rasputin is not impressed
I smell a strike!
***”When people saved in the 1980s for a house, they endured hardship but at least had a guarantee of a prize: a house at the other end. Today, you can save indefinitely but rent goes up and the threat of eviction is ever-present*** ”
Pretty sure they up and left. Assuming hes working full time hours?
What about equal pay for equal work, teachers? No? Solidarity with younger comrades? No? None of that? What kind of a union do you run around here anyway?
Join the fucking q, imagine these fuckers complaining when they have 3 months holidays a year plus the normal allowance of annual leave everyone else gets.
Its symptomatic of the problem that Dublin and housing is unaffordable for much of the public sector and essential services will deteriorate. IT and consultants won’t bring people to hospitals, patrol the streets or teach classes.
What do places that have decades-old housing crises do to keep the likes of nurses, cops, and teachers in jobs in urban areas despite shite public wages with respect to cost of living?
Places like San Francisco or New York where these type of shite’s been let fester since the 80s.
Second week of Easter- time for the teachers to come on and claim they spend every afternoon, evening and weekend doing “lesson plans”
It’s absolutely not a job I’d do but teachers seem to think they’ve the monopoly on shit work
The teachers can get fucked. Everyone else in the public sector is in the same boat
All the usual teacher-bashing in this shithole subreddit. Can’t wait to see how even more fucked this country is if this is the attitude we have towards the people who literally shape the future of our youth. Bring on another 10+ years of Fianna Fáil/Fine Gael and housing crises!
People have been mad to go into teaching since about 2015.
You have gone in since then knowing you wont buy a house and will be house sharing.
Doing that and then moaning about it as if its a surprise its pretty stupid.
Emigrate or retrain.
This will take a major crisis before salaries will be reviewed, as in a school in Varadkars constituency not opening as they have no teachers.
Some of the best paid teachers on planet earth
I’m a teacher and I’m on the lower payscale. Of the circle of 12 friends I had in college, only myself and one other girl are still teaching. I suppose the other 10 had more sense to move on. After leaving college, I’d say about 50-60% of the friends I’ve made in schools have left to work abroad for better conditions, better pay and affordable housing.
I haven’t left because I really love my job. However, because of my particular job, I’m constantly up against devastating child protection cases and often aggressive or overly needy parents (although many of them are lovely). Nevermind the ever-growing paperwork and planning outside of school hours. I’m approaching burn out already and I’m thinking about my options. I’m not even 30 yet.
We can’t get subs so children are going days without being taught because our staff is already stretched thin.
This isn’t just an issue for teachers by the way. I see it happening in preschools, social workers are snowed under, and the waitlist for assessments are years long. There’s short falls everywhere and children are paying for it. It’s very sad to see.
He’s saving on razors anyway.