“UK Government concedes it cannot substantiate assertion that majority crossing Channel are economic migrants”
Of course they can’t because these people all *claim* to be feeling persecution.
However, it’s self evident from the data that the majority are economic migrants do this is irrelevant anyway. The e clearest example of this is the number of people arriving from Albania from which there is no realistic case for seeking asylum, and the explicit support that the Albanian government has given to these people being allowed TO WORK in the UK.
The amount of disinformation the Tories have spread about asylum seekers in the last few years is just massive. I’m constantly seeing people banging on about how they’re all criminals, don’t have valid asylum claims, and should be going through “the proper process” to claim asylum instead of crossing the Channel. It’s a hate campaign that relies partially on ignorance and partially on intentional deception by people who know better but knowingly repeat the disinformation anyway.
In just over a decade the Tories have gone from a centre right party to a much further right populist party that’s pushing extreme anti-refugee policies and rhetoric that previously would have only been heard from groups like the BNP and the NF (ban all asylum seekers and deport them en masse for example).
There’s no evidence because it’s a blatant lie. They know it’s a lie because they are in charge of the system which accepts most of their asylum claims – despite their attempts to reject as many as they can for the flimsiest of reasons.
The only thing they care about is inflicting cruelty onto refugees and other migrants.
The truth of their claims is irrelevant – they’re not making these claims because they think they’re true but because they think that they can use it as a smokescreen for inflicting cruelty.
Well we know it’s all illegal and they’re coming from France opposed to anywhere dangerous
We have a fella posted in Dover he looks into the great beyond and counts boats, when he runs out of fingers he goes home to recharge
And tory voters don’t care because that’s the narrative that helps them justify their views on immigration.
(I thought I’d post this to the top instead of being lost in replies because I actually think it would be a good idea and could save lives and help refugees build a place for themselves easier and wonder what others think)
I’d probably ask the French to let us set up a service near the camps were we could take applications before they had to cross the channel then ferry them across ourselves once they’ve applied then have some sort of humane processing centre on our end to house them until their claim is processed.
Then I’d probably want to find some sort easy work they could do while they’re over here until either the circumstances changed in their home nation or until they can apply for citizenship, work visa etc.
I doubt they’d want to be sat around all day doing nothing in a country that’s foreign to them when they could developing work and language skills to help them build a meaning existence over here.
Honestly I think the last part could be useful for many British people who’ve got no marketable skills or just benefit sponges as well.
How do the legal immigrants get in if the tidies shut down all the legal routes?
When policy us built on rhetoric and hate, facts are irrelevant to its supporters. It’s that simple.
Doesn’t change the fact they are coming from a safe country.
Why are we the only country that isn’t allowed to maintain its borders? No one says shit about Australia.
I mean, they are disproportionately men in their 20s and 30s so it’s even more concerning if they’re not economic migrants.
The alternative if that they’ve left their wives and children in a war zone, alone.
It’s really no surprise that the Tories are again exposed for their lies and fueling of racism. The fact that they make baseless claims to stir up anti-immigrant sentiment is disgusting. And let’s be real, a large portion of their voting base is old racists who are scared of the changing face of the country. The sooner we can get these Tories out of office and move towards a more just and equitable society, the better off we’ll all be.
I believe Frontex was the source of the 70% economic migrants claim. But I can’t find the original report.
I play in a function band and recently we played a party for our local RNLI crew down on the South Coast. In their speeches the skipper spoke about how many migrants they’d rescued from the channel. He said in previous years it’d been around 50 – 60 per year, going back to 2015, and this data was released by the government. He then said that now this government have stopped releasing the data but they know its been about 300 over the last year. This is one town.
I may be voted down for this but the current system is not going to hold and housing etc won’t be provided anytime soon so I think the best solution is to do a “Homes for Ukrainians “ style system where people can take some of these people in whilst their claim is processed .
Isn’t the evidence that they came from France?
They may have been asylum seekers, but once you start asylum shopping you become an economic migrants surely?
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“UK Government concedes it cannot substantiate assertion that majority crossing Channel are economic migrants”
Of course they can’t because these people all *claim* to be feeling persecution.
However, it’s self evident from the data that the majority are economic migrants do this is irrelevant anyway. The e clearest example of this is the number of people arriving from Albania from which there is no realistic case for seeking asylum, and the explicit support that the Albanian government has given to these people being allowed TO WORK in the UK.
The amount of disinformation the Tories have spread about asylum seekers in the last few years is just massive. I’m constantly seeing people banging on about how they’re all criminals, don’t have valid asylum claims, and should be going through “the proper process” to claim asylum instead of crossing the Channel. It’s a hate campaign that relies partially on ignorance and partially on intentional deception by people who know better but knowingly repeat the disinformation anyway.
In just over a decade the Tories have gone from a centre right party to a much further right populist party that’s pushing extreme anti-refugee policies and rhetoric that previously would have only been heard from groups like the BNP and the NF (ban all asylum seekers and deport them en masse for example).
There’s no evidence because it’s a blatant lie. They know it’s a lie because they are in charge of the system which accepts most of their asylum claims – despite their attempts to reject as many as they can for the flimsiest of reasons.
The only thing they care about is inflicting cruelty onto refugees and other migrants.
The truth of their claims is irrelevant – they’re not making these claims because they think they’re true but because they think that they can use it as a smokescreen for inflicting cruelty.
Well we know it’s all illegal and they’re coming from France opposed to anywhere dangerous
We have a fella posted in Dover he looks into the great beyond and counts boats, when he runs out of fingers he goes home to recharge
And tory voters don’t care because that’s the narrative that helps them justify their views on immigration.
(I thought I’d post this to the top instead of being lost in replies because I actually think it would be a good idea and could save lives and help refugees build a place for themselves easier and wonder what others think)
I’d probably ask the French to let us set up a service near the camps were we could take applications before they had to cross the channel then ferry them across ourselves once they’ve applied then have some sort of humane processing centre on our end to house them until their claim is processed.
Then I’d probably want to find some sort easy work they could do while they’re over here until either the circumstances changed in their home nation or until they can apply for citizenship, work visa etc.
I doubt they’d want to be sat around all day doing nothing in a country that’s foreign to them when they could developing work and language skills to help them build a meaning existence over here.
Honestly I think the last part could be useful for many British people who’ve got no marketable skills or just benefit sponges as well.
How do the legal immigrants get in if the tidies shut down all the legal routes?
When policy us built on rhetoric and hate, facts are irrelevant to its supporters. It’s that simple.
Doesn’t change the fact they are coming from a safe country.
Why are we the only country that isn’t allowed to maintain its borders? No one says shit about Australia.
I mean, they are disproportionately men in their 20s and 30s so it’s even more concerning if they’re not economic migrants.
The alternative if that they’ve left their wives and children in a war zone, alone.
It’s really no surprise that the Tories are again exposed for their lies and fueling of racism. The fact that they make baseless claims to stir up anti-immigrant sentiment is disgusting. And let’s be real, a large portion of their voting base is old racists who are scared of the changing face of the country. The sooner we can get these Tories out of office and move towards a more just and equitable society, the better off we’ll all be.
I believe Frontex was the source of the 70% economic migrants claim. But I can’t find the original report.
I play in a function band and recently we played a party for our local RNLI crew down on the South Coast. In their speeches the skipper spoke about how many migrants they’d rescued from the channel. He said in previous years it’d been around 50 – 60 per year, going back to 2015, and this data was released by the government. He then said that now this government have stopped releasing the data but they know its been about 300 over the last year. This is one town.
I may be voted down for this but the current system is not going to hold and housing etc won’t be provided anytime soon so I think the best solution is to do a “Homes for Ukrainians “ style system where people can take some of these people in whilst their claim is processed .
Isn’t the evidence that they came from France?
They may have been asylum seekers, but once you start asylum shopping you become an economic migrants surely?