Boris Johnson literally accused him of protecting Jimmy Savile. He’s fighting fire with fire as far as I’m concerned.
I don’t understand how they think this ad was a good idea at all? Even ignoring how lowbrow the ad was, this could so easily blow up in their faces. Starmer was head of public prosecution and surely has some easy cases that could be used against him while Sunak to some extent can wring his hands of this because he wasn’t an MP for the time period that the ad is referring to.
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It also feel’s incredibly dirty to being using children that have suffered abuse as a weapon in a political ad. Like, I expect it of the tories because they are terrible but I expect better of Labour and so should everyone else.
just a month after starmer says pretty much ‘omg guys poland economy might overtake uk and that’s obviously bad because it’s poland!!’ without any consideration for all the polish nationals/ those with polish background living here in uk.
Sir Keir Starmer 10th February 2022 on being accused of being a paedophile protector by Boris in regards to protecting Jimmy Saville from prosecution.
It was “a deliberate slur without any basis in fact,” Starmer told the Times. “The PM knew exactly what he was doing … It’s not about me, it’s about the way we conduct our politics. I don’t want to see us go down the route that this potentially takes us down.”
Well said Starmer. Oh wait…
British politics seems to be becoming two party leaders who agree on almost everything calling each other a nonce
Tories complaining about disingenuous framing? Well flow my tears for ’em after the decades of bullshit they’ve pulled.
Labour finally understands. Tories will not give up power without a fight and that includes smears.
So fight fire with fire
I hate it when Labour do things that make it harder to argue with people who say “they’re all the same, it doesn’t matter which one you vote for”. Because they aren’t all the same and it *does* matter how you vote, but this sort of thing makes it much more difficult to argue that.
The thing for me is that I don’t get why they had to be so personal with it. The message speaks for itself – the government’s policies are letting child abusers go free.
I suppose the outrage about it brings more attention to the statement, though. Whereas if it wasn’t so incendiary it probably would’ve been resigned to being a 200 like tweet which people forget about in an hour.
People are literally letting the media frame how they should think about this, running Sunak protection for him. “You should be outraged”, “Labour are better than this” etc
Why? Because someone framed the Tories in a way you don’t like? Some mysterious decorum was broken?
“Granny can’t heat her home but I’m not voting Labour because of a bad advert”
Oh deary me. Welcome to politics.
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Labour are going to lose the next election, aren’t they?
What should be the easiest victory-lap election in a generation, and they aren’t going to seal the deal.
Labour have a chance to win a general election and they still mess it up with tawdry “skits” like this…..imagine if they got back into power. Keir taking us to WW3 just like Blair & Iraq…
Morals and ethnics? Politicians never heard of such words.
This is going to be a very ugly election, I feel sorry for those who are going to be in the firing line.
>Labour will lock up dangerous child abusers.
They didn’t last time they were in power
Political discourse in this country is now two parties both yelling “NONCE” at each other.
Also I wouldn’t be using an image of an Asian man and linking him to the sexual assault of children given the way the far right in this country use “Asian grooming gangs” as a racist dogwhistle.
With political statements like this becoming normal you can expect the UK to become a much farther right country in the immediate future, no one is pushing back against the far right, Labour even embrace their rhetoric.
Labour are about putting Britain First after all.
This is the exact reason one cannot vote Labour.
False advertising
2003, Labour changed the guidelines. Naturally, the home office knew of child grooming gangs in 2002.
Funny, tories should focus on that for the attack, Labour just attacked their own policy. It’s nice they admit it’s a failure that allowed many of their nonces, such as Lord Rotherham, to escape punishment for such a long time.
Labour every time they have a chance to push forward and win the next GE.
Source: The guy who kept Jimmy saville out of prison
This looks like Labour are really desperate. I suspect they’ll do another fine job of shooting themselves in the foot and lose another election.
Conservatives are a shambles after Bozzer, all the heavy hitters are out. Yet still Labour will get beat by a reserve team.
Labour drags itself further into the gutter under Starmer.
So many of these comments are ‘how could labour do this, I expect it from the tories. I’m not voting labour because of this’ knowing this country is a two party race
I’d love to pretend that most politicians aren’t involved in child sex crimes, but it’s very fucking unlikely. Still, anything to get rid of these filthy Tories.
This is just another way labour are choosing to lose votes.
Honestly the ad makes them look incompetent and they both look like they going to fight the next election on how tough they are on crime when the cost of living crisis is the main priority
So weird thing. Was on youtube this morning and for the first time ever I had a section of “breaking news” videos come up on my front page. Never seen it before, but it was entirely filled with multiple GB news and sky news videos about the “outrage” about this ad. Considering I pretty much never look at anything political on youtube, it felt really off that this story was being pushed on me so heavily.
This just serves to make people like Labour less. What were they thinking?
They don’t need to run smear campaigns, the British public is already reeling from an incompetent Tory government.
I have to consider that this is not indicative of the whole of the Labour party, just the select few who decided running this ad was a good idea—it’s a bit awkward that Keir Starmer himself is involved in this though.
What is even wrong with this? It’s true! :S
Corbyn’s over there sporting a Russian hat, driving Hitler too the Forth Reich, tea bagging a gypsy.
And these twats are getting their backs up about actual facts…
But rich from labour when looking back at Rotherham, Rochdale and all the other places
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You know what, Starmer can have this one.
Boris Johnson literally accused him of protecting Jimmy Savile. He’s fighting fire with fire as far as I’m concerned.
I don’t understand how they think this ad was a good idea at all? Even ignoring how lowbrow the ad was, this could so easily blow up in their faces. Starmer was head of public prosecution and surely has some easy cases that could be used against him while Sunak to some extent can wring his hands of this because he wasn’t an MP for the time period that the ad is referring to.
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It also feel’s incredibly dirty to being using children that have suffered abuse as a weapon in a political ad. Like, I expect it of the tories because they are terrible but I expect better of Labour and so should everyone else.
just a month after starmer says pretty much ‘omg guys poland economy might overtake uk and that’s obviously bad because it’s poland!!’ without any consideration for all the polish nationals/ those with polish background living here in uk.
Sir Keir Starmer 10th February 2022 on being accused of being a paedophile protector by Boris in regards to protecting Jimmy Saville from prosecution.
It was “a deliberate slur without any basis in fact,” Starmer told the Times. “The PM knew exactly what he was doing … It’s not about me, it’s about the way we conduct our politics. I don’t want to see us go down the route that this potentially takes us down.”
Well said Starmer. Oh wait…
British politics seems to be becoming two party leaders who agree on almost everything calling each other a nonce
Tories complaining about disingenuous framing? Well flow my tears for ’em after the decades of bullshit they’ve pulled.
Labour finally understands. Tories will not give up power without a fight and that includes smears.
So fight fire with fire
I hate it when Labour do things that make it harder to argue with people who say “they’re all the same, it doesn’t matter which one you vote for”. Because they aren’t all the same and it *does* matter how you vote, but this sort of thing makes it much more difficult to argue that.
The thing for me is that I don’t get why they had to be so personal with it. The message speaks for itself – the government’s policies are letting child abusers go free.
I suppose the outrage about it brings more attention to the statement, though. Whereas if it wasn’t so incendiary it probably would’ve been resigned to being a 200 like tweet which people forget about in an hour.
People are literally letting the media frame how they should think about this, running Sunak protection for him. “You should be outraged”, “Labour are better than this” etc
Why? Because someone framed the Tories in a way you don’t like? Some mysterious decorum was broken?
“Granny can’t heat her home but I’m not voting Labour because of a bad advert”
Oh deary me. Welcome to politics.
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Labour are going to lose the next election, aren’t they?
What should be the easiest victory-lap election in a generation, and they aren’t going to seal the deal.
Labour have a chance to win a general election and they still mess it up with tawdry “skits” like this…..imagine if they got back into power. Keir taking us to WW3 just like Blair & Iraq…
Morals and ethnics? Politicians never heard of such words.
This is going to be a very ugly election, I feel sorry for those who are going to be in the firing line.
>Labour will lock up dangerous child abusers.
They didn’t last time they were in power
Political discourse in this country is now two parties both yelling “NONCE” at each other.
Also I wouldn’t be using an image of an Asian man and linking him to the sexual assault of children given the way the far right in this country use “Asian grooming gangs” as a racist dogwhistle.
With political statements like this becoming normal you can expect the UK to become a much farther right country in the immediate future, no one is pushing back against the far right, Labour even embrace their rhetoric.
Labour are about putting Britain First after all.
This is the exact reason one cannot vote Labour.
False advertising
2003, Labour changed the guidelines. Naturally, the home office knew of child grooming gangs in 2002.
Funny, tories should focus on that for the attack, Labour just attacked their own policy. It’s nice they admit it’s a failure that allowed many of their nonces, such as Lord Rotherham, to escape punishment for such a long time.
Tories put up (illegal) [pictures of Corbyn](https://i2-prod.gazettelive.co.uk/incoming/article17409389.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/3_corbyn.jpg) across the whole country saying “this man cannot be trusted” days before a election.
Use their own underhanded shit against them, they levelled the playing field
>Don’t stoop to their level!
Isn’t how the game is played anymore unfortunately
https://tenor.com/en-GB/view/tom-and-jerry-gun-shot-gif-14869640
Labour every time they have a chance to push forward and win the next GE.
Source: The guy who kept Jimmy saville out of prison
This looks like Labour are really desperate. I suspect they’ll do another fine job of shooting themselves in the foot and lose another election.
Conservatives are a shambles after Bozzer, all the heavy hitters are out. Yet still Labour will get beat by a reserve team.
Labour drags itself further into the gutter under Starmer.
So many of these comments are ‘how could labour do this, I expect it from the tories. I’m not voting labour because of this’ knowing this country is a two party race
I’d love to pretend that most politicians aren’t involved in child sex crimes, but it’s very fucking unlikely. Still, anything to get rid of these filthy Tories.
This is just another way labour are choosing to lose votes.
Honestly the ad makes them look incompetent and they both look like they going to fight the next election on how tough they are on crime when the cost of living crisis is the main priority
So weird thing. Was on youtube this morning and for the first time ever I had a section of “breaking news” videos come up on my front page. Never seen it before, but it was entirely filled with multiple GB news and sky news videos about the “outrage” about this ad. Considering I pretty much never look at anything political on youtube, it felt really off that this story was being pushed on me so heavily.
This just serves to make people like Labour less. What were they thinking?
They don’t need to run smear campaigns, the British public is already reeling from an incompetent Tory government.
I have to consider that this is not indicative of the whole of the Labour party, just the select few who decided running this ad was a good idea—it’s a bit awkward that Keir Starmer himself is involved in this though.
What is even wrong with this? It’s true! :S
Corbyn’s over there sporting a Russian hat, driving Hitler too the Forth Reich, tea bagging a gypsy.
And these twats are getting their backs up about actual facts…
But rich from labour when looking back at Rotherham, Rochdale and all the other places