It’s for reasons like this we need some sort of dog licensing system in this country. Any body who actually cares about the dogs wouldn’t mind and it would hopefully dissuade mindless idiots buying animals they can’t control off social media.
> It weighed more than the victim
That guy weighed less than 8 stone?!
Massively increase bans not based on breed (which is largely impossible to enforce anyway) but based on characteristics, and introduce dog licences with a full test you need to pass.
“It’s not the dog, it’s the owner!” – 100% correct. And people are consistently proving they cannot safely train or handle dogs of various types. So this argument is only more support for an increase in bans.
Guns aren’t dangerous on their own, but we rightly have serious restrictions on owning them because people can’t be trusted with them.
Maybe don’t get a large dog when you’re built like a spiders eyelash.
I don’t understand why those XL bully dogs haven’t been banned yet
It’s been suggested before, but, I would support charging the owner as though they had committed the act themselves.
Put the owner in prison for manslaughter and ban this fucking breed now.
Rough playing with a dog you don’t really know sounds about as safe as rough playing with a dog you don’t know.
Let’s face it. The only reason people get dogs like this and others like rottweilers, pit bulls etc., is to appear hard and intimidate people.
Is there anything in the works around legislation to ban this breed?
Because it’s becoming fucking ridiculous how many incidents are making the local and national news concerning these animals, which as far as I can see are almost exclusively owned by absolute scumbags, causing death and serious injury
Asking for trouble breeding these kinds of dogs. You never hear of a spaniel or a Labrador mauling someone to death, though I’ve no doubt these dogs can and do cause serious bites
People who own breeds like the American Bully aren’t fit to be dog owners in the first place
Certain breeds should be banned. Yes the breed is part of the problem, yes the owners are. As you can’t ban the owners from existing, banning the breeds is the next best thing.
Any argument against the breed being part of the problem is addressed by the simple fact that collies herd, retrievers retrieve, lurchers run fast. Different breeds are better at different things, single minded breeding has meant that the favoured characteristic (intelligence, obedience, aggression) gets exaggerated along with any genetic defects such as unhealthy eyes, ear problems, breathing problems etc. This is not an opinion, it is fact.
Yes there will be american bully XL dogs out there that have not yet murdered anyone, but there are lots that have. Very few people get mauled to death by Daschunds, I’m sure.
Genuine question. Why do people want to own dogs like this? The only reasonable answer is security I guess. Doesn’t help when your guard dog rips your throat out though. Like living with a ticking time bomb
I spoke to my MP on this and it was put to Westminster
If you would like something done, speak about it, MPs, whatever.
I’ve been seeing these headlines for years now. Ban these fucking breeds already,
The article raises some real questions about the owner and friend. They bought a large dog off some random people and then were playing rough games with it the next day. I know dogs shouldn’t bite people but provoking a large unknown dog in a new stressful situation is utterly stupid.
All of the dipshits that are obsessed with owning these disgusting “dogs” deserve whatever they get for the risk they put others under.
And this is the scary thing to me, any member of the public could be happily enjoying their life going for a walk in the park and one of these dogs gets loose and kills them.
I’m this case it was a friend walking the dog in the park but what stops it killing anyone else once they get loose etc.
I love dogs, my family has owned them since 2008 and I have my own lab now, but these breeds are just dangerous and it seems nothing is being done about them.
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Tragic, but one of escalating anthropomorphism gone wild.
New dog, no familiarity, and then looking after the new dog for the owner 🤦♂️
Add in aggressive ‘play’, yea, dogs don’t do human play, they do pack play that equates to behaviour/strength of an equivalent genetic match.
This was just a tragedy waiting to happen, when uneducated owners have access to animals that they don’t understand.
Oh, and my understanding, that would be a background in animal behaviour, and an association of dealing with others animals for decades.
Let’s hope that legislation does come in sooner to ban these variants, but I doubt it will be rushed, unless someone ‘influencial’ is affected.
backyard breeders and people who treat dogs as status symbols are the worse. The amount of times I have seen people with american akitas and cane corsos being dragged by there dog and hearing them yell commands repeatedly is shocking. those owners are always one fuck up away from getting someone hurt or worse killed
I like how the article has him with a Rott but of course, it was a shitbull, great journalism.
Someone in my area has a dog that’s to big for them.
They only walk it late at night for a very short period.
I googled it, and suspect it’s a banned breed.
Pretty sure that the person is programming the dog to be aggressive to strangers as a weapon or to defend whatever they have in their property.
I’m worried that if I report it, they’ll know it’s me and nothing substantial will happen to them.
They’ll just pay a fine, get another dog after a few months etc
This looks like a normal sized Rottweiler yet the article describes the dog as a “bully xl” or a “super breed”. Obviously the handler’s behaviour and the dog’s reaction were not compatible but why lie about the breed?
Jesus that pic with that headline wont be doing Rottweilers any good.
It’s stories like this why I don’t like walking around neighborhoods.
I was chased by dogs a lot as a kid and I develop a fear of them as a result. I largely grew out of that but when it’s quiet I always have this fear of a random large ass dog attacking me while I’m minding my own business walking down the street.
I’m no pro on dogs but I’ve seen American bully’s and to me this looks like a rottweiler ?? Not an American bully
These dogs shouldn’t be pets
I don’t care if people feel that infringes their rights. We limit rights all the time as safety overrides it. People want to own dangerous dogs, right ok, some people want to drive at 100mph, we don’t let them because their enjoyment cannot be allowed to come before everyone else’s safety
Firstly he was a total idiot and I’ve zero sympathy for anybody this stupid. Secondly these dogs should be banned.
Do women ever purposefully buy dangerous dogs, that they can’t train or handle, to flex and stroke their ego or is that just a man thing. I know a couple men who’ve bragged about having a dangerous dog that they can barely control.
Only absolute fucking idiots want to own dogs like this. It’s only a shame that this one didn’t eat his owner too.
They should make much tougher sentences for people breeding illegal dogs and people owning them. You hear so many stories of people, especially children being killed.
should just ban dangerous dogs in their entirety and save a ballache
Somehow I knew without clicking the link that this would be local to me.
I was in a pub with my family a few weeks ago, and two separate people had some kind of oversized staffie mix, extremely untrained, running under tables, trying to jump up at our food, and play fighting with abandon like bowling balls while wait staff were trying to carrying hot food. The blokes had never met before, and quickly swapped numbers with a view to breed the two dogs when they were older.
Love how they used a picture of a Rottweiler and it’s another pit bull. Shocker.
As someone who loves dogs; Put a ban on this breed and push through a law that states anyone who sells or owns this breed faces assault/manslaughter charges if/when they attack/kill someone.
It looks like a Rottweiler? Beautiful dogs, when they’re trained well and kindly. Our St. Bernards are huge, pure clouds, but I can see how they’re frightening to others.
Jesus. This was awful to read. But idiots gonna idiot.
In the last 6 months I’ve seen half a dozen people within two streets of where I live walking this sort of dog (you know, the baby-eating type(s)…) without a lead.
I have a two year old. There’s literally a Peruvian family with about 12 kids who all play out in the street all day about 100 metres away. It’s a tragedy waiting to happen.
We need a law against these malformed aggressive beasts roaming the streets doing this sort of thing… and their dogs too. I’m surprised they haven’t already started teaching these canine prestige items to ride the stolen mopeds that they run their county lines from.
Jesus Christ. What an absolutely shit country we live in.
Ban these fucking bully XL breeds or whatever they are. It’s absurd.
Huh. This is my story. So weird to see it pop up on Reddit haha. I was the journalist at this inquest. AMA if you want, I guess…
Felt so desperately sad for the family. They had so many questions and were very torn up. They were very lovely people and Wiggy didn’t deserve this
Edit: I’m not the LBC journalist who has the byline on this story. I’m an agency reporter who covered this for national titles.
Pretty fucked up they used a picture that isn’t the dog that killed him.
As a Rottie owner, it’s an injustice to put a pic of the sadly deceased man with a completely different dog – the Rottie – alongside the title of the “super-breed” dog having crushed his neck and severed his vein. Chances are more than a few people gonna make the connection with the sweet Rottie pictured rather than reading the article…
I don’t agree with a lot of what Australia does, their licensing and insurance system around dogs is one the UK should be adopting.
First of all you need a licence to own a dog.
You have to pay for the license.
The initial licence is quite expensive.
Each responsible thing the owner does brings down the cost of the license.
Have your dog chipped? Licence is cheaper. Have it vax’d? Licence is cheaper? Have it insured? Licence is cheaper.
We need this asap. Too many weapon people running around with weapon dogs that they cannot control and can’t look after responsibly.
It’s simple really, charge the owner with manslaughter, destroy the dog, ban the breed, and annihilate the rest of them.
Raise an issue with your local MP via email or letter. That’s the best we can do. Dogs trust might lobby against it since a lot of their money is from rehousing dogs like this but it’s not worth the risk. Ban them or have a mass culling of XL Bullies, they’re even stronger than their American cousins and was literally designed to fight other animals in a pit to the death or help hunters with large game, they are not pets.
Ban this breed of dog it’s only for cunts anyway. It is literally the “I’m a massive trash or normie cunt” dog.
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It’s for reasons like this we need some sort of dog licensing system in this country. Any body who actually cares about the dogs wouldn’t mind and it would hopefully dissuade mindless idiots buying animals they can’t control off social media.
> It weighed more than the victim
That guy weighed less than 8 stone?!
Massively increase bans not based on breed (which is largely impossible to enforce anyway) but based on characteristics, and introduce dog licences with a full test you need to pass.
“It’s not the dog, it’s the owner!” – 100% correct. And people are consistently proving they cannot safely train or handle dogs of various types. So this argument is only more support for an increase in bans.
Guns aren’t dangerous on their own, but we rightly have serious restrictions on owning them because people can’t be trusted with them.
Maybe don’t get a large dog when you’re built like a spiders eyelash.
I don’t understand why those XL bully dogs haven’t been banned yet
It’s been suggested before, but, I would support charging the owner as though they had committed the act themselves.
Put the owner in prison for manslaughter and ban this fucking breed now.
Rough playing with a dog you don’t really know sounds about as safe as rough playing with a dog you don’t know.
Let’s face it. The only reason people get dogs like this and others like rottweilers, pit bulls etc., is to appear hard and intimidate people.
Is there anything in the works around legislation to ban this breed?
Because it’s becoming fucking ridiculous how many incidents are making the local and national news concerning these animals, which as far as I can see are almost exclusively owned by absolute scumbags, causing death and serious injury
Asking for trouble breeding these kinds of dogs. You never hear of a spaniel or a Labrador mauling someone to death, though I’ve no doubt these dogs can and do cause serious bites
People who own breeds like the American Bully aren’t fit to be dog owners in the first place
Certain breeds should be banned. Yes the breed is part of the problem, yes the owners are. As you can’t ban the owners from existing, banning the breeds is the next best thing.
Any argument against the breed being part of the problem is addressed by the simple fact that collies herd, retrievers retrieve, lurchers run fast. Different breeds are better at different things, single minded breeding has meant that the favoured characteristic (intelligence, obedience, aggression) gets exaggerated along with any genetic defects such as unhealthy eyes, ear problems, breathing problems etc. This is not an opinion, it is fact.
Yes there will be american bully XL dogs out there that have not yet murdered anyone, but there are lots that have. Very few people get mauled to death by Daschunds, I’m sure.
Genuine question. Why do people want to own dogs like this? The only reasonable answer is security I guess. Doesn’t help when your guard dog rips your throat out though. Like living with a ticking time bomb
I spoke to my MP on this and it was put to Westminster
Here’s the response
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-0wjWAw5NqECkEKSoyju3itU1myJ1-b5/view?usp=drivesdk
If you would like something done, speak about it, MPs, whatever.
I’ve been seeing these headlines for years now. Ban these fucking breeds already,
The article raises some real questions about the owner and friend. They bought a large dog off some random people and then were playing rough games with it the next day. I know dogs shouldn’t bite people but provoking a large unknown dog in a new stressful situation is utterly stupid.
All of the dipshits that are obsessed with owning these disgusting “dogs” deserve whatever they get for the risk they put others under.
And this is the scary thing to me, any member of the public could be happily enjoying their life going for a walk in the park and one of these dogs gets loose and kills them.
I’m this case it was a friend walking the dog in the park but what stops it killing anyone else once they get loose etc.
I love dogs, my family has owned them since 2008 and I have my own lab now, but these breeds are just dangerous and it seems nothing is being done about them.
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Tragic, but one of escalating anthropomorphism gone wild.
New dog, no familiarity, and then looking after the new dog for the owner 🤦♂️
Add in aggressive ‘play’, yea, dogs don’t do human play, they do pack play that equates to behaviour/strength of an equivalent genetic match.
This was just a tragedy waiting to happen, when uneducated owners have access to animals that they don’t understand.
Oh, and my understanding, that would be a background in animal behaviour, and an association of dealing with others animals for decades.
Let’s hope that legislation does come in sooner to ban these variants, but I doubt it will be rushed, unless someone ‘influencial’ is affected.
backyard breeders and people who treat dogs as status symbols are the worse. The amount of times I have seen people with american akitas and cane corsos being dragged by there dog and hearing them yell commands repeatedly is shocking. those owners are always one fuck up away from getting someone hurt or worse killed
I like how the article has him with a Rott but of course, it was a shitbull, great journalism.
Someone in my area has a dog that’s to big for them.
They only walk it late at night for a very short period.
I googled it, and suspect it’s a banned breed.
Pretty sure that the person is programming the dog to be aggressive to strangers as a weapon or to defend whatever they have in their property.
I’m worried that if I report it, they’ll know it’s me and nothing substantial will happen to them.
They’ll just pay a fine, get another dog after a few months etc
This looks like a normal sized Rottweiler yet the article describes the dog as a “bully xl” or a “super breed”. Obviously the handler’s behaviour and the dog’s reaction were not compatible but why lie about the breed?
Jesus that pic with that headline wont be doing Rottweilers any good.
It’s stories like this why I don’t like walking around neighborhoods.
I was chased by dogs a lot as a kid and I develop a fear of them as a result. I largely grew out of that but when it’s quiet I always have this fear of a random large ass dog attacking me while I’m minding my own business walking down the street.
I’m no pro on dogs but I’ve seen American bully’s and to me this looks like a rottweiler ?? Not an American bully
These dogs shouldn’t be pets
I don’t care if people feel that infringes their rights. We limit rights all the time as safety overrides it. People want to own dangerous dogs, right ok, some people want to drive at 100mph, we don’t let them because their enjoyment cannot be allowed to come before everyone else’s safety
Firstly he was a total idiot and I’ve zero sympathy for anybody this stupid. Secondly these dogs should be banned.
Do women ever purposefully buy dangerous dogs, that they can’t train or handle, to flex and stroke their ego or is that just a man thing. I know a couple men who’ve bragged about having a dangerous dog that they can barely control.
Only absolute fucking idiots want to own dogs like this. It’s only a shame that this one didn’t eat his owner too.
They should make much tougher sentences for people breeding illegal dogs and people owning them. You hear so many stories of people, especially children being killed.
should just ban dangerous dogs in their entirety and save a ballache
Somehow I knew without clicking the link that this would be local to me.
I was in a pub with my family a few weeks ago, and two separate people had some kind of oversized staffie mix, extremely untrained, running under tables, trying to jump up at our food, and play fighting with abandon like bowling balls while wait staff were trying to carrying hot food. The blokes had never met before, and quickly swapped numbers with a view to breed the two dogs when they were older.
Love how they used a picture of a Rottweiler and it’s another pit bull. Shocker.
As someone who loves dogs; Put a ban on this breed and push through a law that states anyone who sells or owns this breed faces assault/manslaughter charges if/when they attack/kill someone.
It looks like a Rottweiler? Beautiful dogs, when they’re trained well and kindly. Our St. Bernards are huge, pure clouds, but I can see how they’re frightening to others.
Jesus. This was awful to read. But idiots gonna idiot.
In the last 6 months I’ve seen half a dozen people within two streets of where I live walking this sort of dog (you know, the baby-eating type(s)…) without a lead.
I have a two year old. There’s literally a Peruvian family with about 12 kids who all play out in the street all day about 100 metres away. It’s a tragedy waiting to happen.
We need a law against these malformed aggressive beasts roaming the streets doing this sort of thing… and their dogs too. I’m surprised they haven’t already started teaching these canine prestige items to ride the stolen mopeds that they run their county lines from.
Jesus Christ. What an absolutely shit country we live in.
Ban these fucking bully XL breeds or whatever they are. It’s absurd.
Huh. This is my story. So weird to see it pop up on Reddit haha. I was the journalist at this inquest. AMA if you want, I guess…
Felt so desperately sad for the family. They had so many questions and were very torn up. They were very lovely people and Wiggy didn’t deserve this
Edit: I’m not the LBC journalist who has the byline on this story. I’m an agency reporter who covered this for national titles.
Pretty fucked up they used a picture that isn’t the dog that killed him.
As a Rottie owner, it’s an injustice to put a pic of the sadly deceased man with a completely different dog – the Rottie – alongside the title of the “super-breed” dog having crushed his neck and severed his vein. Chances are more than a few people gonna make the connection with the sweet Rottie pictured rather than reading the article…
I don’t agree with a lot of what Australia does, their licensing and insurance system around dogs is one the UK should be adopting.
First of all you need a licence to own a dog.
You have to pay for the license.
The initial licence is quite expensive.
Each responsible thing the owner does brings down the cost of the license.
Have your dog chipped? Licence is cheaper. Have it vax’d? Licence is cheaper? Have it insured? Licence is cheaper.
We need this asap. Too many weapon people running around with weapon dogs that they cannot control and can’t look after responsibly.
It’s simple really, charge the owner with manslaughter, destroy the dog, ban the breed, and annihilate the rest of them.
Raise an issue with your local MP via email or letter. That’s the best we can do. Dogs trust might lobby against it since a lot of their money is from rehousing dogs like this but it’s not worth the risk. Ban them or have a mass culling of XL Bullies, they’re even stronger than their American cousins and was literally designed to fight other animals in a pit to the death or help hunters with large game, they are not pets.
Ban this breed of dog it’s only for cunts anyway. It is literally the “I’m a massive trash or normie cunt” dog.