Good. It saves on commuting, it works for them. What’s the problem?
Tight labour conditions, it’s the same for public servants around the world – department heads are struggling to recruit skilled staff on historically low pay deals and cannot risk any further attrition. The cats out of the bag, I can not see it materially changing back, except for a very few “exceptional” organisations.
Good. If it works for both parties what’s the issue?
Give it a proper recession and that’ll change. People will want to become more visible when the department is facing workforce cuts.
Even if you sat at home doing nothing, switching on your laptop and wanking off to extreme BDSM from 9am to 5pm and eating Wotsits you’d still be contributing more to this country than your average Daily Mail writer.
Sure I’ll go into the office.
Then I’ll book a meeting room out for the entire day just for myself solely as the majority of the organisation I’m interacting with are in 5 different offices.
Amazing use of time; resources; space and ultimately money.
The writer of this article should come see what it’s like in the private sector 😉
The site I go onto every so often is HUGE, put it this way, walking from gatehouse to my desk is half a mile. The site is mostly empty, the canteen is empty, it’s a huge waste of resources running that site.
My job, I don’t need to be sat in an office, I’m more productive at home if anything, my work life balance is much better. If I take a 10 minute break I can load the washer, I can prep tea. On lunch I can take the dog for a walk. All the things I’d need to do anyway I can assimilate into the day and relax on an evening.
It’s 100% better for my mental health, I can’t be arsed with office politics, if I’m in an insular mood, I don’t have to worry about putting a fake smile on my face.
I’m not sure why the narrative is that we shouldn’t be living like that? Jealousy perhaps
Pretty much everyone at large corporates is working from home still as well? So fucking what, it’s better.
Since the civil service doesn’t actually have enough office space for everyone it’s probably just as well
Not a civil servant but work indirectly for them.
It makes a lot of sense for people like me not to spend 3 or 4 hours commuting. It also makes a lot of sense for us to work in our home environment using our own equipment which is configured the way we like it. I’ve never been in an office with a personal 65″ 4k display on my desk hooked up to 4 computers…
*My experience of working from home is you spend an awful lot of time making another cup of coffee and then, you know, getting up, walking very slowly to the fridge, hacking off a small piece of cheese, then walking very slowly back to your laptop and then forgetting what it was you’re doing* — Jacob Rees Mogg.
When working from home, my girlfriend (when here) starts making me coffee whilst I work from 6am onwards. I take a long break at lunchtime when its nice and sunny outside and work till late in the evening. Also we keep meetings to one day every fortnight and a single 15 minute session at the start of each day. Without office interruptions I’m a lot more productive.
Well if you had to meet Dominic Raab, if the allegations are true, I bet you’d want to work from home.
It may be off the news but there’s still 1m cases of Covid in the U.K. there are many people still suffering from Long Covid and many people live in households with family who are immunocompromised.
The problem with the Daily Mail is they always put the livelihoods of office property investors first, those who make money off the army of drones who travel into the square mile or Canary Wharf daily. The wealth of the speculators and economy shorters who probably don’t even pay U.K. tax, above ordinary people’s lives.
If civil servants are working productively from home, no interruptions, no £5000 rail season tickets, no over priced city centre sandwich shops, what the f*+k is their problem?
MS Teams meetings are much more productive anyway, you can get 20 people in a virtual room three or four times a day at short notice, no travel required, no meeting rooms, teas, coffees, reception staff to be organised. You can get reports and e mails written in a quiet environment, no interruptions, no big open plan offices with background chat, people on phones or Rees Mogg’s strutting arrogantly about to distract you.
Home working allows you to fit in a half hour doctor appointment in your home town without having to take half a day off or carry an emergent illness into the office and pass it on to others. You can still get on with your work while being a carer for an unwell member of your household and look in on them from time to time. It’s a much more enlightened way to work.
For many it’s so much better for people’s mental and physical health and supports people who are older workers or those who may have mobility issues such as rheumatoid arthritis which can be unpredictable in mornings and might make commuting challenging. For some people they can go for a run or get to the gym during times ordinarily they’d be sitting on a commuter train or in a queue of polluting city traffic.
It’s also been great for suburban towns and city centres as more people spend their money more locally. In theory it’s also good for the overinflated housing market and more remote locations as you can theoretically work in London but live in Bristol, Norwich, Newcastle, Glasgow, Edinburgh etc as you don’t need to live close to London and can commute there a couple of times a month. The economic multiplier benefits of spreading skilled workers and their spend power around the U.K. to peripheral towns and cities is good for everyone, those with families, those who are carers, older and younger workers.
The Daily Mail have no idea, this is the future..ultimately it will help organisations to pull in highly skilled people from throughout the world and U.K. and those with families without having to pay London salaries..or expect them to be able to buy a £560k one bed flat to live in.
Yes, some city centre offices may become functionally obsolete with the working revolution but then that’s where residential conversion should kick in to get more people living affordably in city centres instead..
I know pay for commutes we don’t need to do to offices that cannot accommodate all staff, fuck the DM and Rees wank face he can come and see where i don’t want to be any day of the week the utter arsewipe
Good for them. Who needs to have an office to pay for that only makes money for its owner.
This form of work has never been tested by high unemployment. It’ll be interesting how many people who are happy to be invisible and just deliver work will continue to do so when a round of cuts is coming.
It’s saving the civil service money
It’s saving the planet
It’s pissing off landlords
I’d call that a triple win
In the states working from home is helping keep rush hour traffic doable. Traffic is a lot less because of working from home. I hope they keep it.
I work for the civil service currently. I could go to the office. Nobody in my team works in the same office. Or any office within 2 hours of my house. Nobody in my team works in the same office as each other. We would still be collaborating remotely…just from a different building.
I don’t understand why that would be better.
Good! Is DailyMail trying to make it sound bad? Fuck them!
If your job can be done from home, it should be done from home.
Stop destroying the planet and congesting the transport system just to justify your employer renting an office.
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Good. It saves on commuting, it works for them. What’s the problem?
Tight labour conditions, it’s the same for public servants around the world – department heads are struggling to recruit skilled staff on historically low pay deals and cannot risk any further attrition. The cats out of the bag, I can not see it materially changing back, except for a very few “exceptional” organisations.
Good. If it works for both parties what’s the issue?
Give it a proper recession and that’ll change. People will want to become more visible when the department is facing workforce cuts.
Even if you sat at home doing nothing, switching on your laptop and wanking off to extreme BDSM from 9am to 5pm and eating Wotsits you’d still be contributing more to this country than your average Daily Mail writer.
Sure I’ll go into the office.
Then I’ll book a meeting room out for the entire day just for myself solely as the majority of the organisation I’m interacting with are in 5 different offices.
Amazing use of time; resources; space and ultimately money.
The writer of this article should come see what it’s like in the private sector 😉
The site I go onto every so often is HUGE, put it this way, walking from gatehouse to my desk is half a mile. The site is mostly empty, the canteen is empty, it’s a huge waste of resources running that site.
My job, I don’t need to be sat in an office, I’m more productive at home if anything, my work life balance is much better. If I take a 10 minute break I can load the washer, I can prep tea. On lunch I can take the dog for a walk. All the things I’d need to do anyway I can assimilate into the day and relax on an evening.
It’s 100% better for my mental health, I can’t be arsed with office politics, if I’m in an insular mood, I don’t have to worry about putting a fake smile on my face.
I’m not sure why the narrative is that we shouldn’t be living like that? Jealousy perhaps
Pretty much everyone at large corporates is working from home still as well? So fucking what, it’s better.
Since the civil service doesn’t actually have enough office space for everyone it’s probably just as well
Not a civil servant but work indirectly for them.
It makes a lot of sense for people like me not to spend 3 or 4 hours commuting. It also makes a lot of sense for us to work in our home environment using our own equipment which is configured the way we like it. I’ve never been in an office with a personal 65″ 4k display on my desk hooked up to 4 computers…
*My experience of working from home is you spend an awful lot of time making another cup of coffee and then, you know, getting up, walking very slowly to the fridge, hacking off a small piece of cheese, then walking very slowly back to your laptop and then forgetting what it was you’re doing* — Jacob Rees Mogg.
When working from home, my girlfriend (when here) starts making me coffee whilst I work from 6am onwards. I take a long break at lunchtime when its nice and sunny outside and work till late in the evening. Also we keep meetings to one day every fortnight and a single 15 minute session at the start of each day. Without office interruptions I’m a lot more productive.
Well if you had to meet Dominic Raab, if the allegations are true, I bet you’d want to work from home.
It may be off the news but there’s still 1m cases of Covid in the U.K. there are many people still suffering from Long Covid and many people live in households with family who are immunocompromised.
The problem with the Daily Mail is they always put the livelihoods of office property investors first, those who make money off the army of drones who travel into the square mile or Canary Wharf daily. The wealth of the speculators and economy shorters who probably don’t even pay U.K. tax, above ordinary people’s lives.
If civil servants are working productively from home, no interruptions, no £5000 rail season tickets, no over priced city centre sandwich shops, what the f*+k is their problem?
MS Teams meetings are much more productive anyway, you can get 20 people in a virtual room three or four times a day at short notice, no travel required, no meeting rooms, teas, coffees, reception staff to be organised. You can get reports and e mails written in a quiet environment, no interruptions, no big open plan offices with background chat, people on phones or Rees Mogg’s strutting arrogantly about to distract you.
Home working allows you to fit in a half hour doctor appointment in your home town without having to take half a day off or carry an emergent illness into the office and pass it on to others. You can still get on with your work while being a carer for an unwell member of your household and look in on them from time to time. It’s a much more enlightened way to work.
For many it’s so much better for people’s mental and physical health and supports people who are older workers or those who may have mobility issues such as rheumatoid arthritis which can be unpredictable in mornings and might make commuting challenging. For some people they can go for a run or get to the gym during times ordinarily they’d be sitting on a commuter train or in a queue of polluting city traffic.
It’s also been great for suburban towns and city centres as more people spend their money more locally. In theory it’s also good for the overinflated housing market and more remote locations as you can theoretically work in London but live in Bristol, Norwich, Newcastle, Glasgow, Edinburgh etc as you don’t need to live close to London and can commute there a couple of times a month. The economic multiplier benefits of spreading skilled workers and their spend power around the U.K. to peripheral towns and cities is good for everyone, those with families, those who are carers, older and younger workers.
The Daily Mail have no idea, this is the future..ultimately it will help organisations to pull in highly skilled people from throughout the world and U.K. and those with families without having to pay London salaries..or expect them to be able to buy a £560k one bed flat to live in.
Yes, some city centre offices may become functionally obsolete with the working revolution but then that’s where residential conversion should kick in to get more people living affordably in city centres instead..
I know pay for commutes we don’t need to do to offices that cannot accommodate all staff, fuck the DM and Rees wank face he can come and see where i don’t want to be any day of the week the utter arsewipe
Good for them. Who needs to have an office to pay for that only makes money for its owner.
This form of work has never been tested by high unemployment. It’ll be interesting how many people who are happy to be invisible and just deliver work will continue to do so when a round of cuts is coming.
It’s saving the civil service money
It’s saving the planet
It’s pissing off landlords
I’d call that a triple win
In the states working from home is helping keep rush hour traffic doable. Traffic is a lot less because of working from home. I hope they keep it.
I work for the civil service currently. I could go to the office. Nobody in my team works in the same office. Or any office within 2 hours of my house. Nobody in my team works in the same office as each other. We would still be collaborating remotely…just from a different building.
I don’t understand why that would be better.
Good! Is DailyMail trying to make it sound bad? Fuck them!
If your job can be done from home, it should be done from home.
Stop destroying the planet and congesting the transport system just to justify your employer renting an office.