Why they refer to him as “New dad”? Surely most people know who he is by name?
I think he is right here and he was very much misled. I do not think he should have expected to be. I think is very bad practice actually, kind of is annoying my brain currently.
Didn’t he give an interview on this already?
Pretty sure I seen something posted here a while back.
The journalist’s a snake, but Murphy has to be a bit more copped on. Unless you explicitly say otherwise, a journalist is gonna assume everything and anything you say to them in an interview you agreed to is fair to use.
“This is off the record” is a great phrase to use, Paul
Tough shit. There’s no such thing as ‘off the record’ or ‘just chatting’ to a working journalist. That’s what you get for bragging about your pissant boycotts.
Is he new to politics? Journalists aren’t your friends
Paul is an awful dose, allegedly.
What the fuck is a Gender Neutral Baby?
I don’t like Paul and yeah he probably should know better but that’s very poor form from the journalist. She should have more integrity than that.
Journalists aren’t your friends. Anything for a click
There’s no doubt in my mind he knew what was happening, he just didn’t do anything because he knew he could make a stink later for sympathy points.
Why would he possibly think a journalist just wanted to chat as people do about something that he had previously made such a point of?
He really is the most pathetic man, blatantly using his child to score political points. Not that I think raising a child gender neutral is bad, but publicising things about the child is.
Paul Murphy is just Eamon Ryan without media training, prove me wrong.
Everything you say to a journalist is on the record. Anyone with any sense knows that.
Isn’t the whole article against code of practice of journalists.
Any politician should be alive to such snakey behaviour from journalists tbh
You’re talking to the reporter, it’s in the record. Unless, someone says “off the record…”
He’s like a first year arts student, notions on him
Really bad form from the report but not really surprised. The Sindo is obsessed with articles on gender identity lately.
My wife had a similar experience with a national publication. So as to not doxx myself I won’t give any details, but the interview was about one topic and at the start of the call she was just chit chatting with the reporter about some other stuff. The entire article that was printed was about some of the stuff they talked about at the start. It was very sly and sneaky what they did and while I might not agree with Paul Murphy’s politics I fully support and empathise with him here.
Here’s an idea. Nobody needs to be raised gender neutral if you ignore gender stereotypes. A little boy can be a little boy and play with dolls, it doesn’t mean he’s a girl or that he’s non-binary. He can also wear a dress and not play sports and still be a boy. Same goes for a little girl who wants to play sports and doesn’t like the colour pink. Gender is all about stereotypes, ignore the stereotypes and you don’t have to ignore the sex you were born as.
I’m not a big fan of Paul Murphy myself, but shitty move by the Indo there.
Personally I was on a documentary a few years back with a previous partner and some members of my family. They absolutely took a load of shit out of context and made some people in the family appear to be absolute cunts and like there was so much drama between them.
You can clearly see on the message that Ali asks to interview about a certain topic, and then writes on a differing issue, which is just a shitty thing to do.
Still, raising a child gender neutral is child abuse.
Anyone with common sense knows it’s always on the record unless you say it is off the record. His own fault.
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“I didn’t agree to be interviewed about this”, says the guy who chose to bring the topic to national attention via an interview.
He should never give another interview again to any media outlet 🤞😁
As a journalist in the day job you always tell a source what is on the record and what is off the record and what goes in the story, and depending on time, you give the final copy to the source to make sure they’re happy with it.
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This is bad form – there are no rules against it in the rulebook but its crappy behaviour, it’s just being a bad person on top of being a bad journalist.
Bad move by the jerno but that crazy from Murphy the poor child.
Honestly not buying it, the man is a career politician that does everything he can for the medias attention.
He knew exactly what he was doing.
There is nothing wrong with the journalist. Paul made a story about how he was raising his kid.
She just saw an opportunity and took her shot.
What she did is no different from door stepping
this is a third rate politician/celebrity with a stupid point of view getting media time so people can laugh at him. In other words it’s the internet in a microcosm.
Ordinarily I’d be sympathetic to this guy, but (1) It’s the Independent, they’re a gossip and scandal rag (2) he put that story out there all by himself of his own accord and now he’s all “I am shocked that the thing I did for publicity is being used by papers for publicity”.
Family members should be off-limits but when you do an entire piece patting yourself on the back for being so progressive with your enby baby, you have to deal with the consequences.
Bad form of the journalist, but in this case he cut the stick to beat his own back.
Not a fan of Murphy in away way shape or form but you have to call out dick behaviour when you see it.. The print media are a bunch of cnuts and it’s no shock their media is dying
He’s been done up like a kipper here
I remember when I was doing Press, ya really had to remember the words “off the record”. Ya only have to forget once. I did, and a post interview “chat” I had with a journo was printed verbatim in The Irish Times, including bad grammar, as an article written by me. I was morto, until I got the cheque! Paul should know better in fairness…
What’s this? Indo journalists are disingenuous, agenda driven scum?? Well colour me shocked!
Why does this absolute prick get so much airtime in TV, radio and newspapers ?
they wouldn’t have done a snake ass hatchet job like this on a FFG party member I’ll say that much
This is exactly what you’re trained not to do in journalism. Breaching trust like this is a permanent black mark on your record.
Anyone who deals with journos professionally knows that everything’s on the record unless specified. Murphy is around long enough to know that. He walked himself into it.
When Bertie did an interview while Taoiseach he was known to produce his own voice recorder to tape it and put it beside the journalist’s one. Govt minister’s press advisors record all interviews/huddles/pressers. It’s just the way that works works.
Honestly, that’s a pretty shitty move on the journalists part. That’s not what they asked, and he agreed, to do the interview on.
I work in PR. Very poor form for the journo however it is completely fair game for them to take what is said and use it as they wish UNLESS he had said or alluded to that this was “off the record” or vice versa.
I wonder sometimes about the media training politicians receive, given the nature of the job – you would hope PBP employ an agency on a full time basis.
I will say that I’ve had clients go through extensive media training and still make easy errors.. I staff interviews quite a lot and though seldom, do have to intervene.. it’s tricky
Imagine trusting a journalist to be forthcoming and honest 😂😂😂😅😅😅😅😅😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🥲🤣🥲🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
bad journalism, he’ll never answer a call or talk to or leak again, this journo just burnt a contact/source for click bait.
AWFUL JOURNALISIM
Surely he knew that not a single person cares about PBPs Biden stance.
How could anyone think this is ok
It’s both.
It’s stupid to leave your front door open, sure, but the person who breaks in is still the asshole.
I never enforced any gender norms on my kids either.
But I didn’t refer to them as them or anything but if the boys wanted to play with dolls etc. I had no issues.
Turned out a bit weird actually because my son Conor now has a barbie mermaid that he calls his wife and he takes baths with her.
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I’d say that’s bad form from the journalist.
Why they refer to him as “New dad”? Surely most people know who he is by name?
I think he is right here and he was very much misled. I do not think he should have expected to be. I think is very bad practice actually, kind of is annoying my brain currently.
Didn’t he give an interview on this already?
Pretty sure I seen something posted here a while back.
The journalist’s a snake, but Murphy has to be a bit more copped on. Unless you explicitly say otherwise, a journalist is gonna assume everything and anything you say to them in an interview you agreed to is fair to use.
“This is off the record” is a great phrase to use, Paul
Tough shit. There’s no such thing as ‘off the record’ or ‘just chatting’ to a working journalist. That’s what you get for bragging about your pissant boycotts.
Is he new to politics? Journalists aren’t your friends
Paul is an awful dose, allegedly.
What the fuck is a Gender Neutral Baby?
I don’t like Paul and yeah he probably should know better but that’s very poor form from the journalist. She should have more integrity than that.
Journalists aren’t your friends. Anything for a click
There’s no doubt in my mind he knew what was happening, he just didn’t do anything because he knew he could make a stink later for sympathy points.
Why would he possibly think a journalist just wanted to chat as people do about something that he had previously made such a point of?
He really is the most pathetic man, blatantly using his child to score political points. Not that I think raising a child gender neutral is bad, but publicising things about the child is.
Paul Murphy is just Eamon Ryan without media training, prove me wrong.
Everything you say to a journalist is on the record. Anyone with any sense knows that.
Isn’t the whole article against code of practice of journalists.
Any politician should be alive to such snakey behaviour from journalists tbh
You’re talking to the reporter, it’s in the record. Unless, someone says “off the record…”
He’s like a first year arts student, notions on him
Really bad form from the report but not really surprised. The Sindo is obsessed with articles on gender identity lately.
My wife had a similar experience with a national publication. So as to not doxx myself I won’t give any details, but the interview was about one topic and at the start of the call she was just chit chatting with the reporter about some other stuff. The entire article that was printed was about some of the stuff they talked about at the start. It was very sly and sneaky what they did and while I might not agree with Paul Murphy’s politics I fully support and empathise with him here.
Here’s an idea. Nobody needs to be raised gender neutral if you ignore gender stereotypes. A little boy can be a little boy and play with dolls, it doesn’t mean he’s a girl or that he’s non-binary. He can also wear a dress and not play sports and still be a boy. Same goes for a little girl who wants to play sports and doesn’t like the colour pink. Gender is all about stereotypes, ignore the stereotypes and you don’t have to ignore the sex you were born as.
I’m not a big fan of Paul Murphy myself, but shitty move by the Indo there.
Personally I was on a documentary a few years back with a previous partner and some members of my family. They absolutely took a load of shit out of context and made some people in the family appear to be absolute cunts and like there was so much drama between them.
You can clearly see on the message that Ali asks to interview about a certain topic, and then writes on a differing issue, which is just a shitty thing to do.
Still, raising a child gender neutral is child abuse.
Anyone with common sense knows it’s always on the record unless you say it is off the record. His own fault.
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“I didn’t agree to be interviewed about this”, says the guy who chose to bring the topic to national attention via an interview.
He should never give another interview again to any media outlet 🤞😁
As a journalist in the day job you always tell a source what is on the record and what is off the record and what goes in the story, and depending on time, you give the final copy to the source to make sure they’re happy with it.
​
This is bad form – there are no rules against it in the rulebook but its crappy behaviour, it’s just being a bad person on top of being a bad journalist.
Bad move by the jerno but that crazy from Murphy the poor child.
Honestly not buying it, the man is a career politician that does everything he can for the medias attention.
He knew exactly what he was doing.
There is nothing wrong with the journalist. Paul made a story about how he was raising his kid.
She just saw an opportunity and took her shot.
What she did is no different from door stepping
this is a third rate politician/celebrity with a stupid point of view getting media time so people can laugh at him. In other words it’s the internet in a microcosm.
Ordinarily I’d be sympathetic to this guy, but (1) It’s the Independent, they’re a gossip and scandal rag (2) he put that story out there all by himself of his own accord and now he’s all “I am shocked that the thing I did for publicity is being used by papers for publicity”.
Family members should be off-limits but when you do an entire piece patting yourself on the back for being so progressive with your enby baby, you have to deal with the consequences.
Bad form of the journalist, but in this case he cut the stick to beat his own back.
Not a fan of Murphy in away way shape or form but you have to call out dick behaviour when you see it.. The print media are a bunch of cnuts and it’s no shock their media is dying
He’s been done up like a kipper here
I remember when I was doing Press, ya really had to remember the words “off the record”. Ya only have to forget once. I did, and a post interview “chat” I had with a journo was printed verbatim in The Irish Times, including bad grammar, as an article written by me. I was morto, until I got the cheque! Paul should know better in fairness…
What’s this? Indo journalists are disingenuous, agenda driven scum?? Well colour me shocked!
Why does this absolute prick get so much airtime in TV, radio and newspapers ?
they wouldn’t have done a snake ass hatchet job like this on a FFG party member I’ll say that much
This is exactly what you’re trained not to do in journalism. Breaching trust like this is a permanent black mark on your record.
Anyone who deals with journos professionally knows that everything’s on the record unless specified. Murphy is around long enough to know that. He walked himself into it.
When Bertie did an interview while Taoiseach he was known to produce his own voice recorder to tape it and put it beside the journalist’s one. Govt minister’s press advisors record all interviews/huddles/pressers. It’s just the way that works works.
Honestly, that’s a pretty shitty move on the journalists part. That’s not what they asked, and he agreed, to do the interview on.
I work in PR. Very poor form for the journo however it is completely fair game for them to take what is said and use it as they wish UNLESS he had said or alluded to that this was “off the record” or vice versa.
I wonder sometimes about the media training politicians receive, given the nature of the job – you would hope PBP employ an agency on a full time basis.
I will say that I’ve had clients go through extensive media training and still make easy errors.. I staff interviews quite a lot and though seldom, do have to intervene.. it’s tricky
Imagine trusting a journalist to be forthcoming and honest 😂😂😂😅😅😅😅😅😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🥲🤣🥲🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
bad journalism, he’ll never answer a call or talk to or leak again, this journo just burnt a contact/source for click bait.
AWFUL JOURNALISIM
Surely he knew that not a single person cares about PBPs Biden stance.
How could anyone think this is ok
It’s both.
It’s stupid to leave your front door open, sure, but the person who breaks in is still the asshole.
I never enforced any gender norms on my kids either.
But I didn’t refer to them as them or anything but if the boys wanted to play with dolls etc. I had no issues.
Turned out a bit weird actually because my son Conor now has a barbie mermaid that he calls his wife and he takes baths with her.