Battles are won with soldiers and weapons. War is won with logistics and support.
Making coffee. Yeah. Washing the bodies of soldiers so that their families would not get a mess of flesh but their child. Preparing food, delivering it and not only to the front lines but to field hospitals.
The writer would never have survived that.
American here, this looks like a comment that one would find with 2 updoots (one of which is their own) after a 5 minute scroll into the depths of a comment section. Frustrating, but Iwouldn’t take it too seriously.
We have women serving in all capacities throughout most of the U.S military, even some in U.S.S.F.O and we have women whose military rank would make this smoothbrain sweat nervously. Most Americans would agree that they don’t care what a soldier is so much as how competent one is. This opinion carries over to other countries, including lovely Finland.
As I said, frustrating, but not something worth living rent free in your head.
While Lotta Svärd was strictly against arming their members, some members that were assigned air defense duties did actually carry a rifle, a mediocre manlicher-carcano but anyway. Also some Lotta members serving near the front line were issued a pocket pistol for their personal security, if the officer in charge of the unit deemed it necessary.
Ah yes the americans who made women work in factories
Sweden, Norway and Estonia still has their “Lottakår” active. Swedens will be 100 years old next year.
Given how much America engages in warfare, you’d think their citizens would know a little more about it than that
Well, I tend not to care what Americans think.
Who the fuck cares what some americans (or anyone else for that matter) think about us or Lottas?
You have to be one tough human being to volunteer to fight in a war that you are not expected to. The Lotta’s were unbelievably brave, since the accepted idea was that women and children were needed to be kept safe, and they still put themselves in harms way.
I find this so offensive. My great grandmother was shot to smithereens by Russians as she was close to the front lines feeding soldiers.
Muricans don’t know that bunkers in WWII Finland didn’t have Playstations and Burger Kings. They weren’t built like fortified holiday resorts. (On top other facts stated in other comments)
Muricans are fucking dumb though. 🤷♀️ 🤣
(I am one, and have to coexist with them until I escape)
By the title I was expecting some crap about how it was a Nazi organisation blah blah blah cause the Russians said so. So I was oddly relieved it was just good old sexism.
I mean America had female nurses and such too so seemingly it’s just some idiot who doesn’t understand what you have to go through as a nurse as well
r/ShitAmericansSay
Ah yes: Logistics are not at all an important part of the military, and volunteer women taking some of those positions to free men for the combat roles (something Finland was so desperately lacking that they resorted to conscript children before the end of the war) has absolutely no value.
I mean how much should I care about a random american’s opinion about a female paramilitary organization that was dismantled almost 80 years ago?
Finland would never have made it if everybody didn’t chip in. It’s not just Lottas, women took care of a lot of things during the war.
I don’t really see the point in discussing it even…it was a collective “win” and it happened because of cooperation.
Now ask them to point out where Finland is on a map.
“Support roles aren’t important” says a dude from a country where the military has a support to active ratio of >10/1
Kinda easy for writer to critizise when they’ve lived their entire life in peace in distant ocean while Hell broke loose all over in Middle-East and now in eastern Europe.
Lottas also did some rough jobs like cleaning the deceased, tended scared and dying soldiers, sat as tower scout for warplanes, some in very end had to go in fronts too. Finland is still standing, thanks to the veterans and lottas.
Without the thrust behind it, the tip of the spear is useless. Support roles allow for all the operations in any army, anyone who has read anything about war should know this.
As an American servicemember, I have far more respect for women who serve their country in a vocation that maximizes their capabilities to help the war effort, rather than those who force themselves into roles that they are not equipped for. Women often excel as pilots, intelligence analysts, and staff members. On the other hand, exceedingly few women are physically or mentally fit for grunt infantry work, let alone special operations (don’t take my word for it, just look at the physical fitness requirements, and ask those who’ve been combat instructors). And yet, the military tries harder and harder every year to virtue signal by dropping standards and making exceptions so that more women can feel empowered by serving on the front lines. The last I checked, the purpose of military service is to defend the nation, not to “prove something” to yourself, or anyone else.
The women of Lotta Svard stand in complete contrast to many of the women that I serve with today, because the purpose of their service was exactly that, to serve their country by capitalizing on the talents that they had, not the talents they wished they had. They didn’t pull stunts to get a photo-op of themselves “looking cool” in combat. They didn’t destroy morale of fighting units by forcing themselves into the ranks of men. They didn’t waste people’s time and disgrace themselves by constantly whining for special favors. And unlike many people serving today, they overcame true, severe hardship by surviving the brutal Finnish wilderness and terrifying air raids from a superior military’s air force. They were true patriots, and their sacrifices deserve our admiration for years to come.
I think a better title would be “what one American apparently thinks about the Lottas”
To think that a significant portion of the 330 million Americans feel this way is just as dumb a take as the original post.
…and what’s the context here? Seems like shitposting to me.
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Why I’m not surprised
One douchebag trolling=some americans
They’re just jealous
Battles are won with soldiers and weapons. War is won with logistics and support.
Making coffee. Yeah. Washing the bodies of soldiers so that their families would not get a mess of flesh but their child. Preparing food, delivering it and not only to the front lines but to field hospitals.
The writer would never have survived that.
American here, this looks like a comment that one would find with 2 updoots (one of which is their own) after a 5 minute scroll into the depths of a comment section. Frustrating, but Iwouldn’t take it too seriously.
We have women serving in all capacities throughout most of the U.S military, even some in U.S.S.F.O and we have women whose military rank would make this smoothbrain sweat nervously. Most Americans would agree that they don’t care what a soldier is so much as how competent one is. This opinion carries over to other countries, including lovely Finland.
As I said, frustrating, but not something worth living rent free in your head.
While Lotta Svärd was strictly against arming their members, some members that were assigned air defense duties did actually carry a rifle, a mediocre manlicher-carcano but anyway. Also some Lotta members serving near the front line were issued a pocket pistol for their personal security, if the officer in charge of the unit deemed it necessary.
Ah yes the americans who made women work in factories
Sweden, Norway and Estonia still has their “Lottakår” active. Swedens will be 100 years old next year.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjPh_MILbCU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjPh_MILbCU)
American are fucking morons.
Source: am an American
Given how much America engages in warfare, you’d think their citizens would know a little more about it than that
Well, I tend not to care what Americans think.
Who the fuck cares what some americans (or anyone else for that matter) think about us or Lottas?
You have to be one tough human being to volunteer to fight in a war that you are not expected to. The Lotta’s were unbelievably brave, since the accepted idea was that women and children were needed to be kept safe, and they still put themselves in harms way.
I find this so offensive. My great grandmother was shot to smithereens by Russians as she was close to the front lines feeding soldiers.
Muricans don’t know that bunkers in WWII Finland didn’t have Playstations and Burger Kings. They weren’t built like fortified holiday resorts. (On top other facts stated in other comments)
Muricans are fucking dumb though. 🤷♀️ 🤣
(I am one, and have to coexist with them until I escape)
By the title I was expecting some crap about how it was a Nazi organisation blah blah blah cause the Russians said so. So I was oddly relieved it was just good old sexism.
I mean America had female nurses and such too so seemingly it’s just some idiot who doesn’t understand what you have to go through as a nurse as well
r/ShitAmericansSay
Ah yes: Logistics are not at all an important part of the military, and volunteer women taking some of those positions to free men for the combat roles (something Finland was so desperately lacking that they resorted to conscript children before the end of the war) has absolutely no value.
I mean how much should I care about a random american’s opinion about a female paramilitary organization that was dismantled almost 80 years ago?
Finland would never have made it if everybody didn’t chip in. It’s not just Lottas, women took care of a lot of things during the war.
I don’t really see the point in discussing it even…it was a collective “win” and it happened because of cooperation.
Now ask them to point out where Finland is on a map.
“Support roles aren’t important” says a dude from a country where the military has a support to active ratio of >10/1
Kinda easy for writer to critizise when they’ve lived their entire life in peace in distant ocean while Hell broke loose all over in Middle-East and now in eastern Europe.
Lottas also did some rough jobs like cleaning the deceased, tended scared and dying soldiers, sat as tower scout for warplanes, some in very end had to go in fronts too. Finland is still standing, thanks to the veterans and lottas.
Without the thrust behind it, the tip of the spear is useless. Support roles allow for all the operations in any army, anyone who has read anything about war should know this.
As an American servicemember, I have far more respect for women who serve their country in a vocation that maximizes their capabilities to help the war effort, rather than those who force themselves into roles that they are not equipped for. Women often excel as pilots, intelligence analysts, and staff members. On the other hand, exceedingly few women are physically or mentally fit for grunt infantry work, let alone special operations (don’t take my word for it, just look at the physical fitness requirements, and ask those who’ve been combat instructors). And yet, the military tries harder and harder every year to virtue signal by dropping standards and making exceptions so that more women can feel empowered by serving on the front lines. The last I checked, the purpose of military service is to defend the nation, not to “prove something” to yourself, or anyone else.
The women of Lotta Svard stand in complete contrast to many of the women that I serve with today, because the purpose of their service was exactly that, to serve their country by capitalizing on the talents that they had, not the talents they wished they had. They didn’t pull stunts to get a photo-op of themselves “looking cool” in combat. They didn’t destroy morale of fighting units by forcing themselves into the ranks of men. They didn’t waste people’s time and disgrace themselves by constantly whining for special favors. And unlike many people serving today, they overcame true, severe hardship by surviving the brutal Finnish wilderness and terrifying air raids from a superior military’s air force. They were true patriots, and their sacrifices deserve our admiration for years to come.
I think a better title would be “what one American apparently thinks about the Lottas”
To think that a significant portion of the 330 million Americans feel this way is just as dumb a take as the original post.
…and what’s the context here? Seems like shitposting to me.