It seems like such a straight forward decision but I guess the gambling companies have been bribing, sorry- consulting, with MPs way too much for it to be deemed possible
What are the odds of this having a positive impact?
It’s one of the most fatal addictions and the amount of temptations has gone completely out of control. Feels like on any high street there’s more places to gamble than basically do anything else. And that’s before talking about the constant marketing everywhere.
Gambling is uniquely seductive as an addiction because “in theory” it could solve your problems. You could be 1 gamble away from being rich.
(Youd lose it all instantly and be back to square 1 ofc, hence why its a problem, but that pot at the end of the rainbow can be full of money)
would also help other countries like in Scandinavia which have a lot of gambling websites and advertisers hosted in the UK to avoid local laws
There was one on the radio while I was in the kitchen about bingo, yea I really don’t like them. If people want to gamble let them but don’t encourage them to do so or advertise to them.
Didn’t see gambling addiction until I was in my early twenties and I worked with a bloke who had mentioned he “shouldn’t be gambling” or something of that nature. Not enough for us to clock it might be serious, we were all young guys so largely oblivious anyway. It was the national and a couple of us went to place some bets and he came along, went straight to a roulette machine and ended up shouting at us for one more go when we said come on mate we need to go. Literally turned into a different person it was crazy and really put the fear in me. I largely don’t gamble now.
I don’t like Gambling Adverts and I work in the industry. In the UK (pre-internet) the approach was that there is a latent, unstimulated demand for gambling and there were a number of pretty well regulated casinos, betting shops and bingo halls to satisfy that demand.
Now you can bet anywhere in the world from your phone if you know how to use a VPN.
So any country can do whatever it wants in regards to gaming regulations, however there is an ever present ‘black’ market” ready to take those players if you make the local regulations too cumbersome. I don’t approve of this….but it is what it is.
So there is now a fine line to be trodden between protecting your nations players, common sense gaming regulation, generating tax revenues, and helping problem gamblers whilst at the same time doing the best you can ring-fence your market and stop players from going off to the grey and black market gaming companies.
There is no right answer sadly.
Gambling, vaping and alcohol should all see their advertising banned
I hate the tv ads that show people ‘partying’ together – reality some person sat at home alone throwing their rent & food money down the pan
It’s a start but gambling is so normalised in society that simply banning adverts is not going to magically fix the issue. We need to make it so that high streets are not loaded with bookies, that fixed-odds betting terminals are banned in all forms, that video game lootboxes are regulated etc. Stopping the problem requires an cultural shift that is a long time coming.
I’ve never gotten into gambling but I do often spend a fair amount of time in the car listening to live football.
The sheer volume of gambling ads and odds updates when listening to TalkSport is absolutely insane.
If I was a former gambling addict who just enjoyed listening to football, it would feel absolutely awful.
I’m not a fan of bans generally but I probably would be in favour of this.
Football clubs all say ‘our fans are the most important’, the sponsorship deals they have ‘lose all your money!’
Just a friendly reminder. If you are not liable to get addicted to gambling, Google “matched betting” and follow the simple guides.
You can extract around £1000-2000 from gambling sites by doing it for a couple of months, risk free. Good way to give a small fuck-you to these companies and make some money for yourself.
If you do get tempted to gamble, then ignore this advice.
Yep – they won’t though. Cash, innit?
Better to ban young drivers from using their cars to give lifts.
This was something I never understood Blair’s reasoning for, we had a pretty sensible system where gambling was legal for those who wanted it but pretty much the only advertising was point of sale and the pools and lottery.
He fucked it, presumably for money.
What really gets me is when they put out the anti-addiction focused “when the fun stops stop” adverts at the end of events, such as when the leaders are walking down the 18th fairway in golf and they aren’t taking any more bets, whilst having spent the last 4 hours filling every break with the latest odds
I’d like local authorities to be a bit more diligent with where bettings shops are. I saw a William Hill next to a food bank recently
The rich gamble on the stock market, usually with our money.
The problem is that often people earn too little money to be able to do anything serious with it, so they think they can get a shortcut through gambling. This is compounded by very steep tax progression, so the more you try to amass capital, the more tax man takes.
Then you see millionaires like Rishi only pay 23% on their income.
I have always disliked gambling adverts, they always target a certain type of working-class masculinity along the lines ‘real men gamble’. It sucks that a activity which can be addictive and when it is, basically means you end up in debt targets the people who have very little money to spare. It sad but you can mostly tell how poor a area is by how many bookies there are.
It’s disgraceful that gambling ads are allowed and not only that, they lure people in with free bets and deals.
But then we’ll have no more ‘Who’s that knocking at your doooor’
Don’t really gamble unless it’s an occasion like grand national but yes, totally agree. End of the day gambling can be as addictive as smoking and cigarette ads are banned.
they are even appearing in cinemas now. not just 18+ films, but everything ive seen recently has atleast one gambling advert, its disgusting.
Tuned into live UK TV after several years of being away from it.
It was actually suprising to see how many gambling adverts were on. One of them saying that it has 30 minute break “feature” to make sure you gamble responsibly.
Kind of crazy….
Don’t just ban gambling adverts, ban those “free bet” promotions as well. They’re super manipulative and have sucked several people I know into a gambling addiction
Do what the majority want in a democracy? Nope, do something else. I’m shocked.
i watch a lot of content on youtube and i’d say at least 50% of the ads i see are from gambling companies. their advertising budgets must be huge or have very specific targeting since i’ve never placed a bet in my life
Here is our chance in the UK. Lets make this one not go away.
UKGC have killed gambling anyway, source of wealth checks, removal of game features like autoplay, slowing down gameplay, extra taxes applied to providers so the game payouts have been reduced to compensate it’s no longer fun just a bloody chore and even more of a rip off than it used to be.
Yes! My mate has a gambling problem but is a huge football fan. I’m always say with him wondering how he must feel when the game on TV is dripping in gambling. Utterly needless
Start with popular computer games, like FIFA. Very young children grow up playing these games, which have literal gambling mechanics in them, but avoid gambling regulation as the prizes aren’t actual money but player cards, or some other purely digital thing such as skins, but just like real gambling they use advanced psychological techniques, utilising dopamine reward responses to get you to addicted to spending money, so when these children reach 18 they know exactly how to gamble. They’re essentially being groomed to be gamblers by what is supposed to be a toy that parents trust are safe for their kids to play with.
Most people obviously aren’t addicted to gambling, as usually you’re already an adult when you encounter it and have no problem with having the occasional flutter for a bit of a thrill, and although there are people who are more susceptible to gambling addiction, it’s children who are the most vulnerable to these sorts of practices, and it’s disgusting they’re allowed in computer games rated safe for all ages.
You can morally postulate about whether consenting adults should be able to gamble, but surely we can agree it takes a real piece of shit to think it’s OK for children? I’d love to see FIFA have to put an 18 age rating and gambling aware stickers on their games, those mechanics would be gone overnight.
I’d put a limit on single bets to £5 or £10 or some nominal small amount. That’s enough that people can have a bit of fun gambling, but would make it more difficult to gamble silly amounts.
Smoking, vaping, gambling and alcoholic adverts should all be banned.
As a foreigner it always surprises me how much gambling there is in UK and it only that but how accepted it is, how well promoted it gets and how accesible it is.
I don’t have any data but there will be many families, careers, suicides related to gambling, promoting it comes from pure greed and taking advantage from some of our worst traits as human beings.
UK is a country well know for its strict rules when it comes to general population safety yet gambling is allowed and freely spread among people. I would personally ban gambling advertisement and put some strict rules to protect people , specially those with poor socioeconomic backgrounds are they are the most vulnerable to this type of things.
I am sorry if I seem obtuse, but I see no point in gambling advertising. I enjoy some whiskey every Saturday night, and even if there was never another alcohol advertisement for the rest of my life, I would still enjoy my weekly whiskey. In the same way, those that enjoy gambling, or have never tried it, will still see scratch cards and lottery tickets at tills, plus betting shops on the high street. We banned tobacco advertisements years ago and most shops hide such products behind a cover these days, yet people still smoke, and people who have never smoked do still get into smoking. I understand that it would likely cut the numbers of those who gamble over time and gambling companies greatly oppose that, yet smoking has become increasingly restricted over the previous years despite the immense power and influence of tobacco businesses, so I do not think that it is impossible for gambling to follow a similar route.
Did you know that 95% of people quit gambling right before they are about to hit the big jackpot?
Gambling companies are all parasitical nonces . just like payday loans and cash4gold.
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It seems like such a straight forward decision but I guess the gambling companies have been bribing, sorry- consulting, with MPs way too much for it to be deemed possible
What are the odds of this having a positive impact?
It’s one of the most fatal addictions and the amount of temptations has gone completely out of control. Feels like on any high street there’s more places to gamble than basically do anything else. And that’s before talking about the constant marketing everywhere.
Gambling is uniquely seductive as an addiction because “in theory” it could solve your problems. You could be 1 gamble away from being rich.
(Youd lose it all instantly and be back to square 1 ofc, hence why its a problem, but that pot at the end of the rainbow can be full of money)
would also help other countries like in Scandinavia which have a lot of gambling websites and advertisers hosted in the UK to avoid local laws
There was one on the radio while I was in the kitchen about bingo, yea I really don’t like them. If people want to gamble let them but don’t encourage them to do so or advertise to them.
Didn’t see gambling addiction until I was in my early twenties and I worked with a bloke who had mentioned he “shouldn’t be gambling” or something of that nature. Not enough for us to clock it might be serious, we were all young guys so largely oblivious anyway. It was the national and a couple of us went to place some bets and he came along, went straight to a roulette machine and ended up shouting at us for one more go when we said come on mate we need to go. Literally turned into a different person it was crazy and really put the fear in me. I largely don’t gamble now.
I don’t like Gambling Adverts and I work in the industry. In the UK (pre-internet) the approach was that there is a latent, unstimulated demand for gambling and there were a number of pretty well regulated casinos, betting shops and bingo halls to satisfy that demand.
Now you can bet anywhere in the world from your phone if you know how to use a VPN.
So any country can do whatever it wants in regards to gaming regulations, however there is an ever present ‘black’ market” ready to take those players if you make the local regulations too cumbersome. I don’t approve of this….but it is what it is.
So there is now a fine line to be trodden between protecting your nations players, common sense gaming regulation, generating tax revenues, and helping problem gamblers whilst at the same time doing the best you can ring-fence your market and stop players from going off to the grey and black market gaming companies.
There is no right answer sadly.
Gambling, vaping and alcohol should all see their advertising banned
I hate the tv ads that show people ‘partying’ together – reality some person sat at home alone throwing their rent & food money down the pan
It’s a start but gambling is so normalised in society that simply banning adverts is not going to magically fix the issue. We need to make it so that high streets are not loaded with bookies, that fixed-odds betting terminals are banned in all forms, that video game lootboxes are regulated etc. Stopping the problem requires an cultural shift that is a long time coming.
I’ve never gotten into gambling but I do often spend a fair amount of time in the car listening to live football.
The sheer volume of gambling ads and odds updates when listening to TalkSport is absolutely insane.
If I was a former gambling addict who just enjoyed listening to football, it would feel absolutely awful.
I’m not a fan of bans generally but I probably would be in favour of this.
Football clubs all say ‘our fans are the most important’, the sponsorship deals they have ‘lose all your money!’
Just a friendly reminder. If you are not liable to get addicted to gambling, Google “matched betting” and follow the simple guides.
You can extract around £1000-2000 from gambling sites by doing it for a couple of months, risk free. Good way to give a small fuck-you to these companies and make some money for yourself.
If you do get tempted to gamble, then ignore this advice.
Yep – they won’t though. Cash, innit?
Better to ban young drivers from using their cars to give lifts.
This was something I never understood Blair’s reasoning for, we had a pretty sensible system where gambling was legal for those who wanted it but pretty much the only advertising was point of sale and the pools and lottery.
He fucked it, presumably for money.
What really gets me is when they put out the anti-addiction focused “when the fun stops stop” adverts at the end of events, such as when the leaders are walking down the 18th fairway in golf and they aren’t taking any more bets, whilst having spent the last 4 hours filling every break with the latest odds
I’d like local authorities to be a bit more diligent with where bettings shops are. I saw a William Hill next to a food bank recently
The rich gamble on the stock market, usually with our money.
The problem is that often people earn too little money to be able to do anything serious with it, so they think they can get a shortcut through gambling. This is compounded by very steep tax progression, so the more you try to amass capital, the more tax man takes.
Then you see millionaires like Rishi only pay 23% on their income.
I have always disliked gambling adverts, they always target a certain type of working-class masculinity along the lines ‘real men gamble’. It sucks that a activity which can be addictive and when it is, basically means you end up in debt targets the people who have very little money to spare. It sad but you can mostly tell how poor a area is by how many bookies there are.
It’s disgraceful that gambling ads are allowed and not only that, they lure people in with free bets and deals.
But then we’ll have no more ‘Who’s that knocking at your doooor’
Don’t really gamble unless it’s an occasion like grand national but yes, totally agree. End of the day gambling can be as addictive as smoking and cigarette ads are banned.
they are even appearing in cinemas now. not just 18+ films, but everything ive seen recently has atleast one gambling advert, its disgusting.
Tuned into live UK TV after several years of being away from it.
It was actually suprising to see how many gambling adverts were on. One of them saying that it has 30 minute break “feature” to make sure you gamble responsibly.
Kind of crazy….
Don’t just ban gambling adverts, ban those “free bet” promotions as well. They’re super manipulative and have sucked several people I know into a gambling addiction
Do what the majority want in a democracy? Nope, do something else. I’m shocked.
i watch a lot of content on youtube and i’d say at least 50% of the ads i see are from gambling companies. their advertising budgets must be huge or have very specific targeting since i’ve never placed a bet in my life
Here is our chance in the UK. Lets make this one not go away.
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/632032
(edit) no ducks my arse🦆
UKGC have killed gambling anyway, source of wealth checks, removal of game features like autoplay, slowing down gameplay, extra taxes applied to providers so the game payouts have been reduced to compensate it’s no longer fun just a bloody chore and even more of a rip off than it used to be.
Yes! My mate has a gambling problem but is a huge football fan. I’m always say with him wondering how he must feel when the game on TV is dripping in gambling. Utterly needless
Start with popular computer games, like FIFA. Very young children grow up playing these games, which have literal gambling mechanics in them, but avoid gambling regulation as the prizes aren’t actual money but player cards, or some other purely digital thing such as skins, but just like real gambling they use advanced psychological techniques, utilising dopamine reward responses to get you to addicted to spending money, so when these children reach 18 they know exactly how to gamble. They’re essentially being groomed to be gamblers by what is supposed to be a toy that parents trust are safe for their kids to play with.
Most people obviously aren’t addicted to gambling, as usually you’re already an adult when you encounter it and have no problem with having the occasional flutter for a bit of a thrill, and although there are people who are more susceptible to gambling addiction, it’s children who are the most vulnerable to these sorts of practices, and it’s disgusting they’re allowed in computer games rated safe for all ages.
You can morally postulate about whether consenting adults should be able to gamble, but surely we can agree it takes a real piece of shit to think it’s OK for children? I’d love to see FIFA have to put an 18 age rating and gambling aware stickers on their games, those mechanics would be gone overnight.
I’d put a limit on single bets to £5 or £10 or some nominal small amount. That’s enough that people can have a bit of fun gambling, but would make it more difficult to gamble silly amounts.
Smoking, vaping, gambling and alcoholic adverts should all be banned.
As a foreigner it always surprises me how much gambling there is in UK and it only that but how accepted it is, how well promoted it gets and how accesible it is.
I don’t have any data but there will be many families, careers, suicides related to gambling, promoting it comes from pure greed and taking advantage from some of our worst traits as human beings.
UK is a country well know for its strict rules when it comes to general population safety yet gambling is allowed and freely spread among people. I would personally ban gambling advertisement and put some strict rules to protect people , specially those with poor socioeconomic backgrounds are they are the most vulnerable to this type of things.
I am sorry if I seem obtuse, but I see no point in gambling advertising. I enjoy some whiskey every Saturday night, and even if there was never another alcohol advertisement for the rest of my life, I would still enjoy my weekly whiskey. In the same way, those that enjoy gambling, or have never tried it, will still see scratch cards and lottery tickets at tills, plus betting shops on the high street. We banned tobacco advertisements years ago and most shops hide such products behind a cover these days, yet people still smoke, and people who have never smoked do still get into smoking. I understand that it would likely cut the numbers of those who gamble over time and gambling companies greatly oppose that, yet smoking has become increasingly restricted over the previous years despite the immense power and influence of tobacco businesses, so I do not think that it is impossible for gambling to follow a similar route.
Did you know that 95% of people quit gambling right before they are about to hit the big jackpot?
Gambling companies are all parasitical nonces . just like payday loans and cash4gold.