As ukraine prepares its forces for a crucial counter-offensive, the argument among its Western allies about what equipment to provide chunters on.
Having finally received the tanks it had been pleading for since last year, Ukraine has increased the intensity of its demands for fighter jets.
Yet its pleas are falling on largely deaf ears. About 30 former Warsaw Pact mig-29s are on their way from Poland and Slovakia. But what Ukraine says it needs are the American f-16s that have been the backbone of nato air forces for much of the past 40 years.
Ukraine is right. The arguments for denying it f-16s are becoming steadily more threadbare. At the start of the war, Ukraine had about 125 elderly combat-capable aircraft, of which a little over half were air-superiority fighters.
At least 40% of them have since been lost. Russia can still field roughly five times as many fighters as Ukraine started the war with. Nearly all are newer, with longer-range radars and air-to-air missiles.
no. peace is the way.
That would be hilarious
What about all the logistics that come with it? All the ordinance? Spare parts? Mechanics?
How easy is to teach someone who has been working on soviet designed planes to now start maintaining the western ones?
It is not like you can just fly F16 out of Ukraine for maintenance as easily as you can with tanks.
No offense but have you really thought this through?
How about you get more AA systems? Mobile ones. And some more artilery.
putin will eventually make more bad decisions in ukraine and this will likely involve splitting atoms to make a point
i often wonder how much authority he has to do that tho and how easy it is from request to action
Is it going that bad? I thought the plan was to force an endless stalemate.
first we need to ask if france will get butt hurt for sending american planes
Again this? 🙄
The logistics and maintenance of such airplanes is a whole different beast. It’s one thing to train pilots but a whole other beast to keep them flying.
Even inside the US military there are many squadrons with half their aircraft AOG at a given time due to the complexity of repairs and logistic / sourcing parts.
Why is it only f 16s and not eurofighter or rafales? It’s clear US isn’t giving f 16s anytime soon
US government is too scared. It’s going to have to be one of y’all to at least get the ball rollin’ 🤷♂️
If I could get F-16’s to provide air support to me in my quiet suburban neighborhood in Delaware, we should be able to send them to Ukraine. And it’s not like we aren’t moving towards 4th gen fighters
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As ukraine prepares its forces for a crucial counter-offensive, the argument among its Western allies about what equipment to provide chunters on.
Having finally received the tanks it had been pleading for since last year, Ukraine has increased the intensity of its demands for fighter jets.
Yet its pleas are falling on largely deaf ears. About 30 former Warsaw Pact mig-29s are on their way from Poland and Slovakia. But what Ukraine says it needs are the American f-16s that have been the backbone of nato air forces for much of the past 40 years.
Ukraine is right. The arguments for denying it f-16s are becoming steadily more threadbare. At the start of the war, Ukraine had about 125 elderly combat-capable aircraft, of which a little over half were air-superiority fighters.
At least 40% of them have since been lost. Russia can still field roughly five times as many fighters as Ukraine started the war with. Nearly all are newer, with longer-range radars and air-to-air missiles.
no. peace is the way.
That would be hilarious
What about all the logistics that come with it? All the ordinance? Spare parts? Mechanics?
How easy is to teach someone who has been working on soviet designed planes to now start maintaining the western ones?
It is not like you can just fly F16 out of Ukraine for maintenance as easily as you can with tanks.
No offense but have you really thought this through?
How about you get more AA systems? Mobile ones. And some more artilery.
putin will eventually make more bad decisions in ukraine and this will likely involve splitting atoms to make a point
i often wonder how much authority he has to do that tho and how easy it is from request to action
Is it going that bad? I thought the plan was to force an endless stalemate.
first we need to ask if france will get butt hurt for sending american planes
Again this? 🙄
The logistics and maintenance of such airplanes is a whole different beast. It’s one thing to train pilots but a whole other beast to keep them flying.
Even inside the US military there are many squadrons with half their aircraft AOG at a given time due to the complexity of repairs and logistic / sourcing parts.
Why is it only f 16s and not eurofighter or rafales? It’s clear US isn’t giving f 16s anytime soon
US government is too scared. It’s going to have to be one of y’all to at least get the ball rollin’ 🤷♂️
If I could get F-16’s to provide air support to me in my quiet suburban neighborhood in Delaware, we should be able to send them to Ukraine. And it’s not like we aren’t moving towards 4th gen fighters