A government will be formed. Good night left side.
Probably a success, but marrying PS and RKP together is going to be difficult.
It’s the beginning of the end of PS
Fredriksson is a pragmatist, you gotta give her that…..
Stone age.
Better than last time.
It’s for sure that there will be very significant cuts to public services. It is being said that this will affect everyone.
Some people will be fucked. Some people will not be, and maybe even un-fucked.
Which person are you?
Probably dismantling the core services as it always is with right wing government, as taxes are cut down to minimum and then they will blame someone else that there is no money to spend.
Also I am sure they will try to get a crack at making public health care more privatized again, trying to paw a path to more american way of doing this, in hopes to maximize the money flow there. Making insurances to be at center of it. Then like with Sipilä government, put their own guys at the chairman positions on the boards of these companies.
It’s going to be tough, because it benefits their own goals.
Almost as good as can be. RKP/SFP is of course a big nuisance but that’s nothing new, they’re pretty much a staple in any composition.
As for what will change/happen? Likely not much. When people say “big ships turn slowly” I’d say Finland isn’t even a ship. It’s the harbor. And it’s not turning at all, even though this group has the highest potential to possibly try to do some fixes. I’m slightly optimistic but the realist in me doubts they’ll get anything done in the end.
MAYBE a tiny bit harsher treatment of unemployed people and an even tinier bit harsher treatment of refugees. But as for any actual, meaningful changes.. Doubtful.
The Swedish party will definitely be able to extort even more compulsory Swedish than usual.
Winter is coming
Gonna be very right-wing economic policies, some (not major) restrictions to immigration, SFP and The Finns will fight about a lot but in the end The Finns will bow down. CD is basically NCP’s Christian wing at this point so they won’t matter. EU policy will likely stay the same. It’s basically an even more right-wing version of the Sipilä government.
4 years of very bad times for everyone below the median wage
Quite conveniently they’re all wearing either black or blue. Black & blue coalition.
We are fucked.
Orpo will be able to form the government.
Finns Party has been eager to tell us what they don’t like, but rarely anything concrete regarding on what they actually WANT. If they join the government, they won’t be getting any significant tightening of immigration, and they won’t even pursue ending the mandatory teaching of Swedish.
For Orpo and the National Coalition Party this is great chance to punch above their weight. They can easily manipulate their inexperienced coalition partner to have things their way. It will be like National Coalition Party had got 30 % of the vote and Finns Party just 10 %. Who could resist this temptation?
If they join the government, Finns Party will be lying to their base a lot, selling as a win something that everyone sees was not. Their popularity will plummet, although this time they might be unified enough so that there won’t be repetition of 2017.
In contrast with SDP, Orpo would have a partner that knows exactly what they want, and the compromises would be tough to swallow for both sides. Orpo knows that this could be done since it has been done so many times before. But why go the hard way when there’s an easy option?
Shit
They will most likely cut some benefits such as unemployment subsidies and housing and restrict immigration from non eu countries.
Lots of tax ✂️
Great with the cuts. All the health dept seniors just got their pay rise. The lower ranks will have to suffer. The bosses just got in just in time. The poor nurses have to work with holes in their shoes.
That I will get drunk during Vappu
Hyi vittu
I’m surprised about the Finns Party and the Swedish People’s Party agreeing to be in a coalition together because I always thought the two absolutely despised each other. After all, it was no coincidence that RKP/SFP went into opposition back in 2015 for the first time since the 70s the same time PS entered into government for the first time.
I think this could be good news for the SDP and Marin in particular because she is still popular in Finland and I have a strong feeling she will return to the Prime Minister role for a second non-consecutive term in 2027.
Some cuts are needed, the current level of debt is simply not sustainable in the long run. In any case Finland is too generous in terms of benefits (especially unemployment benefits) that are paid to people who simply don’t want to work. I personally know people who are happy to just sit and collect benefits despite the availability of work. Why should I work and pay taxes to subsidise others sitting on their backsides?
As for immigration, Finland does need immigrants, but the right kind of immigrants: those who are willing to work and contribute to society, rather than be an economic drain. If the coalition brings a more rational immigration policy where the focus is on economic benefits to Finland, I say that’s great!
Cuts cuts cuts.
And then cuts.
And when those cuts start to actually hit and end up ACTUALLY costing money and making life terrible for all (also for the rich, but less so), these guys are nowhere to be found, except maybe blaming “the left” for everything.
It’s funny how those who brand themselves as economic wizards can be so goddaam short sighted with the impacts of these “absolutely” necessary cuts.
Or they actually are not.
They know exactly what they are doing.
Because in the end, they’ll be just fine.
Rest of us, not so.
Cuts for those who have the money. Poor, unemployed, students and kid families
It is fiscally conservative politicians making hard cuts that benefit their circles. Either through making public services worse thus making their point of privatised health care or whatever seem like a good idea or just by financing tax reliefs for wealthy voters by cutting from social security/benefits. You know, the stuff their counterparts have done in older countries already.
The next season is maybe a win-win situation for me. Either PS fixes everything, or they fail miserably and I get to say “I told you so”.
I’m not a fan of this coalition, but will you folks just calm down? One of the better (and worse) qualities of the Finnish political system and establishment is that no drastic changes are made, nor can be made in all honesty.
Sure, there will be some cuts to some benefits, but let’s not act like we’ve not been chronically overspending since the early 2000s.
Billions can be cut without affecting lower income people. Let us hope that the sane voices in each party will vouch for those in particular.
Lots of privatization and labour rights reductions, like removing tax reductions of union membership fees (extra expense of a few hundred € per worker). I assume one or two holiday days will be cut and there will be at least some talks about working extra hours.
In exchange there will be tax reductions that will benefit average earner 50€ and a millionaire 50000€ a year.
Also state monopoly of gambling and alcohol sales are on table because these essential services must be allowed for investors. Will cause social harm in scale of hundreds of millions while cutting state income by similar figures.
Health care will be killed and poor people will lose 2-5 years of life expectancy.
The idea will be to ensure status quo earning eights for the rich elite and make others work slaves. Permanent damage that can be only fixed with revolution or socialization spree.
A catastrophe.
Do you think they will make the citizenship requirement harder? I’m nearly qualified for it, I just need to pass the language test.
Hyvä siitä tulee
It was speculated by almost everyone that Orpo is more likely to form a government with SDP rather than PS. But bringing PS to the table is interesting.
Bad governance will be the outcome
Now we have to keep our hands on top of the blanket
Its gonna be ok as always. Hopefully not that many global catastrophes this time that result in billions of debt.
Orpo forms a government with the plan to have a coalition that could execute a two-term program to get the economics straight. SDP made it clear that they would not adhere to that.
Looks like this government is gonna go south pretty fast. Opposition is so strong they have a very slim chance of surviving. The tables have turned.
Well unlike many on this feed I’m quite excited to see the outcome.
The worst thing is that NCP does not even know what it wants. It is trying to save Finland NCPs previous bad governance.
I wish they did some severe cuts, starting from corporate handouts. Will this happen? No, because they are not liberals, but corporatists.
I believe this country is heading in a better direction, with this new government we can start again with new leadership, which has different views and different policies. This is democracy, I am happy with these election results and happy – as a right-winger – to have more like-minded people in our brand new government. As with every election and new government, we can’t be certain how it will turn out, I hope they do a good job of it and I believe they very well can.
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We’re so fucked
Orpo forms a government
Nothing good
A government will be formed. Good night left side.
Probably a success, but marrying PS and RKP together is going to be difficult.
It’s the beginning of the end of PS
Fredriksson is a pragmatist, you gotta give her that…..
Stone age.
Better than last time.
It’s for sure that there will be very significant cuts to public services. It is being said that this will affect everyone.
Some people will be fucked. Some people will not be, and maybe even un-fucked.
Which person are you?
Probably dismantling the core services as it always is with right wing government, as taxes are cut down to minimum and then they will blame someone else that there is no money to spend.
Also I am sure they will try to get a crack at making public health care more privatized again, trying to paw a path to more american way of doing this, in hopes to maximize the money flow there. Making insurances to be at center of it. Then like with Sipilä government, put their own guys at the chairman positions on the boards of these companies.
It’s going to be tough, because it benefits their own goals.
Almost as good as can be. RKP/SFP is of course a big nuisance but that’s nothing new, they’re pretty much a staple in any composition.
As for what will change/happen? Likely not much. When people say “big ships turn slowly” I’d say Finland isn’t even a ship. It’s the harbor. And it’s not turning at all, even though this group has the highest potential to possibly try to do some fixes. I’m slightly optimistic but the realist in me doubts they’ll get anything done in the end.
MAYBE a tiny bit harsher treatment of unemployed people and an even tinier bit harsher treatment of refugees. But as for any actual, meaningful changes.. Doubtful.
The Swedish party will definitely be able to extort even more compulsory Swedish than usual.
Winter is coming
Gonna be very right-wing economic policies, some (not major) restrictions to immigration, SFP and The Finns will fight about a lot but in the end The Finns will bow down. CD is basically NCP’s Christian wing at this point so they won’t matter. EU policy will likely stay the same. It’s basically an even more right-wing version of the Sipilä government.
4 years of very bad times for everyone below the median wage
Quite conveniently they’re all wearing either black or blue. Black & blue coalition.
We are fucked.
Orpo will be able to form the government.
Finns Party has been eager to tell us what they don’t like, but rarely anything concrete regarding on what they actually WANT. If they join the government, they won’t be getting any significant tightening of immigration, and they won’t even pursue ending the mandatory teaching of Swedish.
For Orpo and the National Coalition Party this is great chance to punch above their weight. They can easily manipulate their inexperienced coalition partner to have things their way. It will be like National Coalition Party had got 30 % of the vote and Finns Party just 10 %. Who could resist this temptation?
If they join the government, Finns Party will be lying to their base a lot, selling as a win something that everyone sees was not. Their popularity will plummet, although this time they might be unified enough so that there won’t be repetition of 2017.
In contrast with SDP, Orpo would have a partner that knows exactly what they want, and the compromises would be tough to swallow for both sides. Orpo knows that this could be done since it has been done so many times before. But why go the hard way when there’s an easy option?
Shit
They will most likely cut some benefits such as unemployment subsidies and housing and restrict immigration from non eu countries.
Lots of tax ✂️
Great with the cuts. All the health dept seniors just got their pay rise. The lower ranks will have to suffer. The bosses just got in just in time. The poor nurses have to work with holes in their shoes.
That I will get drunk during Vappu
Hyi vittu
I’m surprised about the Finns Party and the Swedish People’s Party agreeing to be in a coalition together because I always thought the two absolutely despised each other. After all, it was no coincidence that RKP/SFP went into opposition back in 2015 for the first time since the 70s the same time PS entered into government for the first time.
I think this could be good news for the SDP and Marin in particular because she is still popular in Finland and I have a strong feeling she will return to the Prime Minister role for a second non-consecutive term in 2027.
Some cuts are needed, the current level of debt is simply not sustainable in the long run. In any case Finland is too generous in terms of benefits (especially unemployment benefits) that are paid to people who simply don’t want to work. I personally know people who are happy to just sit and collect benefits despite the availability of work. Why should I work and pay taxes to subsidise others sitting on their backsides?
As for immigration, Finland does need immigrants, but the right kind of immigrants: those who are willing to work and contribute to society, rather than be an economic drain. If the coalition brings a more rational immigration policy where the focus is on economic benefits to Finland, I say that’s great!
Cuts cuts cuts.
And then cuts.
And when those cuts start to actually hit and end up ACTUALLY costing money and making life terrible for all (also for the rich, but less so), these guys are nowhere to be found, except maybe blaming “the left” for everything.
It’s funny how those who brand themselves as economic wizards can be so goddaam short sighted with the impacts of these “absolutely” necessary cuts.
Or they actually are not.
They know exactly what they are doing.
Because in the end, they’ll be just fine.
Rest of us, not so.
Cuts for those who have the money. Poor, unemployed, students and kid families
It is fiscally conservative politicians making hard cuts that benefit their circles. Either through making public services worse thus making their point of privatised health care or whatever seem like a good idea or just by financing tax reliefs for wealthy voters by cutting from social security/benefits. You know, the stuff their counterparts have done in older countries already.
The next season is maybe a win-win situation for me. Either PS fixes everything, or they fail miserably and I get to say “I told you so”.
I’m not a fan of this coalition, but will you folks just calm down? One of the better (and worse) qualities of the Finnish political system and establishment is that no drastic changes are made, nor can be made in all honesty.
Sure, there will be some cuts to some benefits, but let’s not act like we’ve not been chronically overspending since the early 2000s.
Billions can be cut without affecting lower income people. Let us hope that the sane voices in each party will vouch for those in particular.
Lots of privatization and labour rights reductions, like removing tax reductions of union membership fees (extra expense of a few hundred € per worker). I assume one or two holiday days will be cut and there will be at least some talks about working extra hours.
In exchange there will be tax reductions that will benefit average earner 50€ and a millionaire 50000€ a year.
Also state monopoly of gambling and alcohol sales are on table because these essential services must be allowed for investors. Will cause social harm in scale of hundreds of millions while cutting state income by similar figures.
Health care will be killed and poor people will lose 2-5 years of life expectancy.
The idea will be to ensure status quo earning eights for the rich elite and make others work slaves. Permanent damage that can be only fixed with revolution or socialization spree.
A catastrophe.
Do you think they will make the citizenship requirement harder? I’m nearly qualified for it, I just need to pass the language test.
Hyvä siitä tulee
It was speculated by almost everyone that Orpo is more likely to form a government with SDP rather than PS. But bringing PS to the table is interesting.
Bad governance will be the outcome
Now we have to keep our hands on top of the blanket
Its gonna be ok as always. Hopefully not that many global catastrophes this time that result in billions of debt.
Orpo forms a government with the plan to have a coalition that could execute a two-term program to get the economics straight. SDP made it clear that they would not adhere to that.
Looks like this government is gonna go south pretty fast. Opposition is so strong they have a very slim chance of surviving. The tables have turned.
Well unlike many on this feed I’m quite excited to see the outcome.
The worst thing is that NCP does not even know what it wants. It is trying to save Finland NCPs previous bad governance.
I wish they did some severe cuts, starting from corporate handouts. Will this happen? No, because they are not liberals, but corporatists.
I believe this country is heading in a better direction, with this new government we can start again with new leadership, which has different views and different policies. This is democracy, I am happy with these election results and happy – as a right-winger – to have more like-minded people in our brand new government. As with every election and new government, we can’t be certain how it will turn out, I hope they do a good job of it and I believe they very well can.
Probably better than the current government