Relevant as Irish people and Travellers were also mentioned.
The casual xenophobia the Brits throw our way never fails to amuse.
So anti-Semitism etc don’t fit her personal definition of racism? It’s not champagne unless it’s from the South of France, you have to call it sparkling discrimination.
She is one disgusting racist hypocrite.
Why is she conflating American racial issues with those of the UK?
To try and claim that Irish people have suffered no racism in the UK is absolutely inane
Part of the problem here is the idea of “race”. Her premise seems to be, unless the discrimination is based on race, it can’t be racism. But race itself is an invention of the racists. By employing the ideas of racists you are likely to be walking on some very thin ice.
Prejudice in all forms should be condemned.
She has been such a liability for Labour outside her own bailiwick for so long yet it’s a problem for the party they can’t really fix. Every seat matters.
I thought discrimination against Jews was anti-Semitism not racism ?
Irish Catholics were discriminated against in America, not that it impacts me, my life or hers.
Not sure what relevance America or Apartheid South Africa has to do with racism in the Uk though.
It’s possible for racists to hate more than one group of people and even if one isn’t discriminated against as worse than another it doesn’t mean it leaves less of an impact for individuals.
Seen a few tv shows, articles etc trying to play down the discrimination against Irish Catholics in the Uk. I understand I’m white and can pass off as English to a racist but that doesn’t make it right that I should try or have do so.
I spent my life between Ireland and England (not a traveller btw) and as a kid it was shit getting grief walking to school in England for a few years from a few mouthy racists. The school was attacked, graffiti sprayed etc.
I’m fully aware this is completely tame compared to some Catholics in the north, tame compared to what some black and Asian kids went through. But it still happened to us. I was lucky it was just a few, and most of them left the estate and it quickly became a mix or immigrants from all over, Ireland, Caribbean, African and just normal English poor folk who didn’t care about race, religion etc.
I was also lucky that i grew up at the back end of the bombing campaign in England. I’d imagine those generations before me had it far worse.
The letter makes it seem like the Holocaust never happened. The whole ‘Jewish people never sat at the back of the bus’ argument is offensively stupid.
If I was a member of the UK Labour Party, I would take the radical approach of simply not saying stuff like this.
She’s an absolute fucking idiot and a racist. Shocking she’s lasted as long as she has
Does anyone have the latest version of the victim hierarchy to hand?
Jeremy Corbyn’s ex-squeeze, so not surprising. Fuck anti-semitism and fuck Zionist oppressors.
Dianne Abbot should be complaining how her in-group continue to be discriminated against – the total idiot group.
“the MP argued that minority groups – such as Jewish people, as well as Gypsy, Roma and Traveller people – faced similar levels of prejudice to people with red hair.” Wtf. She and FIFA’s Infantino would be great buddies.
Black people can be jewish, Diane.
Diane missed that bit of history where everyone had a go at persecuting the jews with varying degrees of enthusiasm. I think it was all of the years CE…
Hmm must be some of that American culture war nonsense everybody keeps referring to lately….
diane abbott is a bit of dumbass in terms of what she says. she’s always coming out with racial things and its not a good look
Worst part is Irish people were looked at worse than poc for a long long time
This the person that was skulking those premade mixed drinks on a train ?
What’s her Irish connection?
She’s a very dim individual, one of the stupidest politicians I’ve ever seen
Abbot is an absolute fucking grifter of the highest order, better to not pay hate stirring shitheads like this any attentio, especially when they aren’t smart enough to use shoes correctly (yes that happened).
Are people racist towards Travellers here on r/ireland?
She is no joke the stupidest fuck I have ever seen on TV.
Looks like a little Britain character
This is the woman that can’t do basic arithmetic and sometimes wears two odd left shoes.
Amazing that labour have kept her so high profile in the party all this time to be honest.
Racism is Racism. One group of people does not have a monopoly on it. Racism affects so many people across the world.
“the Jews have not been subject to racism”
ok, Diane Mao did more good than harm Abbot, lets test that hypothesis just within the UK
Jews are the only group in Britain to have been forcibly expelled
the only group mandated to wear identification
the only group to mandatorily segregated into ghettos within the mainland
they were barred from equal rights until 1858
yeah fairly sure they were subject to racism
As a person who has suffered Hibernophobia, she is clueless.
british jews aint semite
Diane Abbott has gone through unacceptable treatment in and outside of the British Labour Party but still the sooner she (and her lefty comrades) are out of the British parliament the better for the Labour Party
Palestine all the way.
Ah Diane Abbott. She is one the UK’s best comedians
Whoever cut her fringe musta done so while on a trampoline.
She is such a donkey
Diane Abbott is not subject to intelligence.
What an insane statement to make.
Would be like me burying my head in the sand regardless of all the evidence out there and saying black people aren’t subjected to racism.
/r/Ireland needs a separation between mods of /r/IrishPolitics – so that we don’t have nonsensical shit-stirring articles from UK politics brought over here.
Anyone who is suitable to mod a politics-only sub, is not suitable to mod /r/ireland.
This idea of hierarchy/classification of grievance/victimhood is very dangerous public narrative to be perpetuating imo. The idea that black people are the only group of people who have suffered throughout history is insane, as is the suggestion that white people are the only ones responsible for it. IMO the way you see people these days categorising victimhood based off being black, gay, trans, Muslim, disabled Asian Jewish. etc etc is almost akin to how the Nazis and apartheid South Africa categorised those who they didn’t like and determined how they should be treated. Judging by the abuse people like James McClean experience in British it’s clear we’re bottom of the barrel when it comes to this “list”.
She said
“ In pre-civil rights America, Irish people, Jewish people and Travellers were not required to sit at the back of the bus. In apartheid South Africa, these groups were allowed to vote. And at the height of slavery, there were no white-seeming people manacled on the slave ships.
And as often is usual with the U.K. the history of their own country is overwritten by the US (and South Africa). They really don’t know their own history.
Frankly in the U.K., albeit not the empire, it was better to be black than Irish.
Irish people don’t suffer racism like black people do. They were an underclass in the UK, but that was generations. Having said that, black people don’t suffer racial abuse in the UK for the most part – it’s a miracle of multiculturalism and her comments about jewish people are just stupid.
The party had to ditch her. the whole jeremy corbyn side of the party has to be jettisoned if they’re to win. I was working in London during the last 2 elections – Corbyn basically handed them to the Tories – no one wanted the Tories, but they weren’t going to risk some student union activist getting into power.
HAHA
Not good for the conservatives, she was one of rheir biggest assets against Labour
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Relevant as Irish people and Travellers were also mentioned.
The casual xenophobia the Brits throw our way never fails to amuse.
So anti-Semitism etc don’t fit her personal definition of racism? It’s not champagne unless it’s from the South of France, you have to call it sparkling discrimination.
She is one disgusting racist hypocrite.
Why is she conflating American racial issues with those of the UK?
To try and claim that Irish people have suffered no racism in the UK is absolutely inane
Part of the problem here is the idea of “race”. Her premise seems to be, unless the discrimination is based on race, it can’t be racism. But race itself is an invention of the racists. By employing the ideas of racists you are likely to be walking on some very thin ice.
Prejudice in all forms should be condemned.
She has been such a liability for Labour outside her own bailiwick for so long yet it’s a problem for the party they can’t really fix. Every seat matters.
I thought discrimination against Jews was anti-Semitism not racism ?
Irish Catholics were discriminated against in America, not that it impacts me, my life or hers.
Not sure what relevance America or Apartheid South Africa has to do with racism in the Uk though.
It’s possible for racists to hate more than one group of people and even if one isn’t discriminated against as worse than another it doesn’t mean it leaves less of an impact for individuals.
Seen a few tv shows, articles etc trying to play down the discrimination against Irish Catholics in the Uk. I understand I’m white and can pass off as English to a racist but that doesn’t make it right that I should try or have do so.
I spent my life between Ireland and England (not a traveller btw) and as a kid it was shit getting grief walking to school in England for a few years from a few mouthy racists. The school was attacked, graffiti sprayed etc.
I’m fully aware this is completely tame compared to some Catholics in the north, tame compared to what some black and Asian kids went through. But it still happened to us. I was lucky it was just a few, and most of them left the estate and it quickly became a mix or immigrants from all over, Ireland, Caribbean, African and just normal English poor folk who didn’t care about race, religion etc.
I was also lucky that i grew up at the back end of the bombing campaign in England. I’d imagine those generations before me had it far worse.
The letter makes it seem like the Holocaust never happened. The whole ‘Jewish people never sat at the back of the bus’ argument is offensively stupid.
If I was a member of the UK Labour Party, I would take the radical approach of simply not saying stuff like this.
She’s an absolute fucking idiot and a racist. Shocking she’s lasted as long as she has
Does anyone have the latest version of the victim hierarchy to hand?
It’s very hard to keep up.
“British politician spouts racial superiority bullshit”
Jeremy Corbyn’s ex-squeeze, so not surprising. Fuck anti-semitism and fuck Zionist oppressors.
Dianne Abbot should be complaining how her in-group continue to be discriminated against – the total idiot group.
“the MP argued that minority groups – such as Jewish people, as well as Gypsy, Roma and Traveller people – faced similar levels of prejudice to people with red hair.” Wtf. She and FIFA’s Infantino would be great buddies.
Black people can be jewish, Diane.
Diane missed that bit of history where everyone had a go at persecuting the jews with varying degrees of enthusiasm. I think it was all of the years CE…
Hmm must be some of that American culture war nonsense everybody keeps referring to lately….
diane abbott is a bit of dumbass in terms of what she says. she’s always coming out with racial things and its not a good look
Worst part is Irish people were looked at worse than poc for a long long time
This the person that was skulking those premade mixed drinks on a train ?
What’s her Irish connection?
She’s a very dim individual, one of the stupidest politicians I’ve ever seen
Abbot is an absolute fucking grifter of the highest order, better to not pay hate stirring shitheads like this any attentio, especially when they aren’t smart enough to use shoes correctly (yes that happened).
Are people racist towards Travellers here on r/ireland?
She is no joke the stupidest fuck I have ever seen on TV.
Looks like a little Britain character
This is the woman that can’t do basic arithmetic and sometimes wears two odd left shoes.
Amazing that labour have kept her so high profile in the party all this time to be honest.
Racism is Racism. One group of people does not have a monopoly on it. Racism affects so many people across the world.
“the Jews have not been subject to racism”
ok, Diane Mao did more good than harm Abbot, lets test that hypothesis just within the UK
Jews are the only group in Britain to have been forcibly expelled
the only group mandated to wear identification
the only group to mandatorily segregated into ghettos within the mainland
they were barred from equal rights until 1858
yeah fairly sure they were subject to racism
As a person who has suffered Hibernophobia, she is clueless.
british jews aint semite
Diane Abbott has gone through unacceptable treatment in and outside of the British Labour Party but still the sooner she (and her lefty comrades) are out of the British parliament the better for the Labour Party
Palestine all the way.
Ah Diane Abbott. She is one the UK’s best comedians
Whoever cut her fringe musta done so while on a trampoline.
She is such a donkey
Diane Abbott is not subject to intelligence.
What an insane statement to make.
Would be like me burying my head in the sand regardless of all the evidence out there and saying black people aren’t subjected to racism.
/r/Ireland needs a separation between mods of /r/IrishPolitics – so that we don’t have nonsensical shit-stirring articles from UK politics brought over here.
Anyone who is suitable to mod a politics-only sub, is not suitable to mod /r/ireland.
This idea of hierarchy/classification of grievance/victimhood is very dangerous public narrative to be perpetuating imo. The idea that black people are the only group of people who have suffered throughout history is insane, as is the suggestion that white people are the only ones responsible for it. IMO the way you see people these days categorising victimhood based off being black, gay, trans, Muslim, disabled Asian Jewish. etc etc is almost akin to how the Nazis and apartheid South Africa categorised those who they didn’t like and determined how they should be treated. Judging by the abuse people like James McClean experience in British it’s clear we’re bottom of the barrel when it comes to this “list”.
She said
“ In pre-civil rights America, Irish people, Jewish people and Travellers were not required to sit at the back of the bus. In apartheid South Africa, these groups were allowed to vote. And at the height of slavery, there were no white-seeming people manacled on the slave ships.
And as often is usual with the U.K. the history of their own country is overwritten by the US (and South Africa). They really don’t know their own history.
Frankly in the U.K., albeit not the empire, it was better to be black than Irish.
Irish people don’t suffer racism like black people do. They were an underclass in the UK, but that was generations. Having said that, black people don’t suffer racial abuse in the UK for the most part – it’s a miracle of multiculturalism and her comments about jewish people are just stupid.
The party had to ditch her. the whole jeremy corbyn side of the party has to be jettisoned if they’re to win. I was working in London during the last 2 elections – Corbyn basically handed them to the Tories – no one wanted the Tories, but they weren’t going to risk some student union activist getting into power.
HAHA
Not good for the conservatives, she was one of rheir biggest assets against Labour