Reading title alone… did we go 19 years back in time?
Not a plan that I agree with personally but atleast they made a concrete decision and can now follow through on that and make the best of it.
It just sucks that normal citizens will probably have to pay even higher bills + EU sanctions towards our increase in carbon output will be paid by taxpayers money.
Green party has lost my vote with this tbh.
Ok I’ll fire the first shot:
Ahem
Changing CO2 neutral nuclear power plants by polluting gas power plants supplied with love from Russia… what can possibly go wrong.
Sounds like a Belgian compromise.
How you guys with CNG cars doing? Almost 2euro/kg LMAO, let’s fire up some more gas plants
I’m waiting for one of the deciding parties (most likely Bouchez) to tell something else than has been decided.
>Tegelijk is ook beslist om te investeren in onderzoek naar nieuwe, kleinere kerncentrales, waar ook Frankrijk aan wil werken.
Yowyow westside gastjes ! Ge moogt geen gasbrander meer hebben in huis dus alles op elektriek!! Schaam u me al die uitstoot van uw overprijst klein huisje!! #Anunadewever #Greta
Also Overheid:
Yowyowyow gasten, we gaan alle kerncentrales sluiten en een hoop grote gascentrales openhouden voor elektriek!
Population:
Surprisedpikachu.jpeg
> Vervolgens zal tot 15 maart gewacht worden of de gascentrale van Vilvoorde toch een vergunning zal krijgen.
Well then, let’s hope Demir sits on that for a while longer.
Dom dommer domst dat is deze regering. Historische blunder die belgie en de bevolking enorm veel gaat kosten.
Let’s wait on the actual press conference instead of digesting headlines 🙂
>De federale regering heeft eindelijk een akkoord over de kernuitstap. Al bijna twintig jaar waren opeenvolgende regeringen hopeloos op de sukkel met de kernuitstap. Start, stop, pauze, rewind: dit is de politieke geschiedenis van een eeuwig hoofdpijndossier.
All past governments are to blame for this farce, starting with the decision to do it and all the ones until now with not preparing it properly.
This is bad in the short term, I just hope proper steps are taken towards r&d in energy storage and investments in renewables. It would be a nightmare if we continue with gasplants for the years to come.
Even then attempting a switch to a hypothetical energy model is taking a big risk considering we don’t have a lot of time to reduce our co2 emissions.
Time to move abroad…
Hopefully it’s as an answer to the European Green Deal and hopefully classification change, putting nuclear as renewable, will revert that decision. I’m not particularly fan of nuclear and I’d rather have sources at small scale, no risk and no impact … but until that happens and as we ALL KNOW have to find energy somewhere, I’d rather be pragmatic. It’s especially interesting as Germany did show us what happens when you make amazing promises, dismantling for ecological goals, and end up having the opposite effect, relying on coal or important gas from far away, geopolitically speaking. It’s especially striking when the warnings about the challenge of renewables, mainly storage and predictions, hit them harshly with lower wind than expected and citizen backlash with “not in my backyard” for solar farms.
So… we’ll see but not delighted by that decision, especially when neighbors like the Netherlands go the opposite direction.
Surely this must be different gas than the one we pay +300% for by now? Surely they didn’t go for an option that has potential supply issues if you just think about giving Putin a dirty look?
“We have an agreement”
Radio just now: they have an agreement but they’re kinda having different opinions on what said agreement means.
So…not an agreement then?
So y’all don’t want cheap clean energy and just want to keep paying higher and higher prices for oil & gas
This is why people vote VB lol
since gas prices have been going through the roof i’ve simply been burning wood again. Looks like i’ll be burning wood for a very long time. Cheers to Green parties and i hope they’re happy with their achievement! lmao xD
The title probably got updated, cause now it’s not correct anymore.
The main scenario is still a nuclear exit but they haven’t decided anything yet. They are asking for more studies about the extension of the 2 youngest power plants and also a new CRM if Vilvoorde doesnt make it. If they cant find enough capacity, there wont be a nuclear exit
“gascentrales zijn een tussenoplossing voor latere klimaatneutrale energie oplossingen”. Ok dus we investeren nu geld in centrales waarvan de bedoeling is dat ze niet al te lang openblijven om later plaats te maken voor mythische oplossingen die nog uitgevonden moeten worden.
Klinkt idd veel beter dan een moderne kerncentrale bouwen
Het is nog altijd hetzelfde geitenwollen sok liedje: ” we zijn tegen kernenergie maar we hebben geen levensvatbaar alternatief”
Does this mean we can finally stop posting circlejerk threads about nuclear energy on /r/belgium from now on? Please?
Vivaldi crash & burn please.
And then they’re surprised that extremist parties are becoming more and more popular. Belgian politics is such a joke.
And now they just chopped off both feet, OMFG, Russia will now own Europe without lube… forget about energy independence, forget about cheap prices and EVs, lol.
This is stupid, I genuinely think that greens and leftists who support closing nuclear power plants are Trojan horse of Russia to make sure EU will remain dependent on Russia for gass otherwise there is no reason to close nuclear power plants and burn gas instead.
We deserve to become the Chinese tributary state we will become.
In europe:
Finland, france, UK, slovakia are all now building new to come online in the next few years nuclear reactors.
Spain , finland , switerland and sweden have all upgraded existing nuclear reactors to deliver more energy in the past years.
Bulgaria, czechia , Lithuania, poland, romania, slovenia have all propositions for new nuclear reactors to start construction in the next few years.
Netherlands, france,Bulgaria, czechia , finladn, hungary and romania are all planning extra reactors .
And belgium shut its nuclear reactors down because groen/ecolo needs the votes.
De verpaupering van de Staat
Mede mogelijk gemaakt door Groen, officiële partij van de randdebielen
can someone please explain to a very dumb person why Belgium is doing this?
They keep changing their minds. Belgium will never get rid of nuclear power until the EU does since, we control the EU, hehe. Thanks Brussels…..😘
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Reading title alone… did we go 19 years back in time?
Not a plan that I agree with personally but atleast they made a concrete decision and can now follow through on that and make the best of it.
It just sucks that normal citizens will probably have to pay even higher bills + EU sanctions towards our increase in carbon output will be paid by taxpayers money.
Green party has lost my vote with this tbh.
Ok I’ll fire the first shot:
Ahem
Changing CO2 neutral nuclear power plants by polluting gas power plants supplied with love from Russia… what can possibly go wrong.
Sounds like a Belgian compromise.
How you guys with CNG cars doing? Almost 2euro/kg LMAO, let’s fire up some more gas plants
I’m waiting for one of the deciding parties (most likely Bouchez) to tell something else than has been decided.
>Tegelijk is ook beslist om te investeren in onderzoek naar nieuwe, kleinere kerncentrales, waar ook Frankrijk aan wil werken.
At least this is something. I’m wondering if this means removing [article 3](http://www.ejustice.just.fgov.be/cgi_loi/change_lg.pl?language=nl&la=N&cn=2003013138&table_name=wet) as well.
Overheid:
Yowyow westside gastjes ! Ge moogt geen gasbrander meer hebben in huis dus alles op elektriek!! Schaam u me al die uitstoot van uw overprijst klein huisje!! #Anunadewever #Greta
Also Overheid:
Yowyowyow gasten, we gaan alle kerncentrales sluiten en een hoop grote gascentrales openhouden voor elektriek!
Population:
Surprisedpikachu.jpeg
> Vervolgens zal tot 15 maart gewacht worden of de gascentrale van Vilvoorde toch een vergunning zal krijgen.
Well then, let’s hope Demir sits on that for a while longer.
Dom dommer domst dat is deze regering. Historische blunder die belgie en de bevolking enorm veel gaat kosten.
Let’s wait on the actual press conference instead of digesting headlines 🙂
Also a good addition on the history: [https://www.demorgen.be/nieuws/start-stop-pauze-rewind-19-jaar-lang-dit-is-de-absurde-geschiedenis-van-de-belgische-kernuitstap~b3a05015/](https://www.demorgen.be/nieuws/start-stop-pauze-rewind-19-jaar-lang-dit-is-de-absurde-geschiedenis-van-de-belgische-kernuitstap~b3a05015/)
>De federale regering heeft eindelijk een akkoord over de kernuitstap. Al bijna twintig jaar waren opeenvolgende regeringen hopeloos op de sukkel met de kernuitstap. Start, stop, pauze, rewind: dit is de politieke geschiedenis van een eeuwig hoofdpijndossier.
All past governments are to blame for this farce, starting with the decision to do it and all the ones until now with not preparing it properly.
This is bad in the short term, I just hope proper steps are taken towards r&d in energy storage and investments in renewables. It would be a nightmare if we continue with gasplants for the years to come.
Even then attempting a switch to a hypothetical energy model is taking a big risk considering we don’t have a lot of time to reduce our co2 emissions.
Time to move abroad…
Hopefully it’s as an answer to the European Green Deal and hopefully classification change, putting nuclear as renewable, will revert that decision. I’m not particularly fan of nuclear and I’d rather have sources at small scale, no risk and no impact … but until that happens and as we ALL KNOW have to find energy somewhere, I’d rather be pragmatic. It’s especially interesting as Germany did show us what happens when you make amazing promises, dismantling for ecological goals, and end up having the opposite effect, relying on coal or important gas from far away, geopolitically speaking. It’s especially striking when the warnings about the challenge of renewables, mainly storage and predictions, hit them harshly with lower wind than expected and citizen backlash with “not in my backyard” for solar farms.
So… we’ll see but not delighted by that decision, especially when neighbors like the Netherlands go the opposite direction.
Surely this must be different gas than the one we pay +300% for by now? Surely they didn’t go for an option that has potential supply issues if you just think about giving Putin a dirty look?
“We have an agreement”
Radio just now: they have an agreement but they’re kinda having different opinions on what said agreement means.
So…not an agreement then?
So y’all don’t want cheap clean energy and just want to keep paying higher and higher prices for oil & gas
This is why people vote VB lol
since gas prices have been going through the roof i’ve simply been burning wood again. Looks like i’ll be burning wood for a very long time. Cheers to Green parties and i hope they’re happy with their achievement! lmao xD
The title probably got updated, cause now it’s not correct anymore.
The main scenario is still a nuclear exit but they haven’t decided anything yet. They are asking for more studies about the extension of the 2 youngest power plants and also a new CRM if Vilvoorde doesnt make it. If they cant find enough capacity, there wont be a nuclear exit
“gascentrales zijn een tussenoplossing voor latere klimaatneutrale energie oplossingen”. Ok dus we investeren nu geld in centrales waarvan de bedoeling is dat ze niet al te lang openblijven om later plaats te maken voor mythische oplossingen die nog uitgevonden moeten worden.
Klinkt idd veel beter dan een moderne kerncentrale bouwen
Het is nog altijd hetzelfde geitenwollen sok liedje: ” we zijn tegen kernenergie maar we hebben geen levensvatbaar alternatief”
Does this mean we can finally stop posting circlejerk threads about nuclear energy on /r/belgium from now on? Please?
Vivaldi crash & burn please.
And then they’re surprised that extremist parties are becoming more and more popular. Belgian politics is such a joke.
And now they just chopped off both feet, OMFG, Russia will now own Europe without lube… forget about energy independence, forget about cheap prices and EVs, lol.
This is stupid, I genuinely think that greens and leftists who support closing nuclear power plants are Trojan horse of Russia to make sure EU will remain dependent on Russia for gass otherwise there is no reason to close nuclear power plants and burn gas instead.
We deserve to become the Chinese tributary state we will become.
In europe:
Finland, france, UK, slovakia are all now building new to come online in the next few years nuclear reactors.
Spain , finland , switerland and sweden have all upgraded existing nuclear reactors to deliver more energy in the past years.
Bulgaria, czechia , Lithuania, poland, romania, slovenia have all propositions for new nuclear reactors to start construction in the next few years.
Netherlands, france,Bulgaria, czechia , finladn, hungary and romania are all planning extra reactors .
And belgium shut its nuclear reactors down because groen/ecolo needs the votes.
De verpaupering van de Staat
Mede mogelijk gemaakt door Groen, officiële partij van de randdebielen
can someone please explain to a very dumb person why Belgium is doing this?
They keep changing their minds. Belgium will never get rid of nuclear power until the EU does since, we control the EU, hehe. Thanks Brussels…..😘