>who live on an income below the poverty line – defined as an average of CHF2,289
2.2k/month? I wonder what companies they work for. Can’t even imagine how much stress this induces in your daily life.
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What? I don’t set my alarm clock for any salary below 6000Fr.
Just going to leave a few sources here in case anyone’s interested in hard data and/or what that data looks like when it’s less abstract, and more tangible, in actual people’s actual lives:
Just try having kids here. You will feel the money evaporate in your pocket.
From Experience I‘d say it‘s more like 1 in 5
Not to diminish what these people go through, but 1/20 is actually a staggering low amount. It’s 5% of the population living in poverty. For reference, in Germany it is 15%+. Even in a country like Sweden with strong welfare is 15%, same in France or Japan.
It is staggering because the thing is, it doesn’t matter how well a country is doing, but from a macro perspective it is very, very hard to reduce poverty to zero. For example you will always have people with mental illness, PTSD, etc. that do not fully qualify for social benefits (or sometimes don’t want to be into social welfare schemes because of their mental issues, so they can’t be helped in a way). 5% is honestly crazy low – probably also partly due to the fact that foreigners eventually get deported, if out of employment.
Many people don’t know how terrible gastro industry is paid.
If you don’t have much experience, many companies force you to work on an hourly basis, but be available 24/7, have a car and preferably speak German on a B2 level or higher for max 25frs/hr.
Nearly all of the big employers (system gastronomy chains like SV Group or fast food restaurants) don’t pay you a dime more than the Mindestlohn of your category. I know bc i used to work with people applying for such jobs.
And keep in mind, EVEN with a completed Lehre, some additional courses and a job as head chef of a restaurant, the minimum wage is hardly above 5000 Fr. Have fun feeding a family with that if you don’t wanna live in the remotest village and have to commute 2hrs every day.
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>who live on an income below the poverty line – defined as an average of CHF2,289
2.2k/month? I wonder what companies they work for. Can’t even imagine how much stress this induces in your daily life.
19 refused to comment or
What? I don’t set my alarm clock for any salary below 6000Fr.
Just going to leave a few sources here in case anyone’s interested in hard data and/or what that data looks like when it’s less abstract, and more tangible, in actual people’s actual lives:
[https://www.bfs.admin.ch/bfs/de/home/statistiken/querschnittsthemen/wohlfahrtsmessung/alle-indikatoren/gesellschaft/armutsquote.html](https://www.bfs.admin.ch/bfs/de/home/statistiken/querschnittsthemen/wohlfahrtsmessung/alle-indikatoren/gesellschaft/armutsquote.html)
[https://www.caritas.ch/de/armut-in-der-schweiz/](https://www.caritas.ch/de/armut-in-der-schweiz/)
Just try having kids here. You will feel the money evaporate in your pocket.
From Experience I‘d say it‘s more like 1 in 5
Not to diminish what these people go through, but 1/20 is actually a staggering low amount. It’s 5% of the population living in poverty. For reference, in Germany it is 15%+. Even in a country like Sweden with strong welfare is 15%, same in France or Japan.
It is staggering because the thing is, it doesn’t matter how well a country is doing, but from a macro perspective it is very, very hard to reduce poverty to zero. For example you will always have people with mental illness, PTSD, etc. that do not fully qualify for social benefits (or sometimes don’t want to be into social welfare schemes because of their mental issues, so they can’t be helped in a way). 5% is honestly crazy low – probably also partly due to the fact that foreigners eventually get deported, if out of employment.
Many people don’t know how terrible gastro industry is paid.
If you don’t have much experience, many companies force you to work on an hourly basis, but be available 24/7, have a car and preferably speak German on a B2 level or higher for max 25frs/hr.
Nearly all of the big employers (system gastronomy chains like SV Group or fast food restaurants) don’t pay you a dime more than the Mindestlohn of your category. I know bc i used to work with people applying for such jobs.
And keep in mind, EVEN with a completed Lehre, some additional courses and a job as head chef of a restaurant, the minimum wage is hardly above 5000 Fr. Have fun feeding a family with that if you don’t wanna live in the remotest village and have to commute 2hrs every day.
Top Ten happiest country has problems? Mmmm