Honestly at the inevitable next one, people were lied to and messed around so much with so much nonsense last time that I don’t see why they would trust the government guidelines, meaning it would surely be far far worse.
My worry is you have a disease as contagious as covid but as deadly as MERS…
I’m fully prepared. No, I’m not going to work during a pandemic.
Fuck off and good luck.
People wont follow an social distancing, lockdown rules again.
We saw the elite not bother and it destroyed any sense of community.
Not prepared, yet we factory farm animals like we’re trying to set a new zoonotic pandemic speed record.
I need to get some louder pots and pans next time, so I can bang them harder and for longer.
It’s really no surprise that the government has defunded and failed to invest in the NHS and is even planning to sell off research facilities before they’ve even opened.
If another pandemic hits the country soon it’s going to be a lot worse because of the above defunding, a lack of public trust in government and scientists thanks to Partygate and probably lot less generous government support schemes next time round.
No shit, we weren’t even prepared for the last one.
Of course not. The tories cut all of our planning and resilience against pandemics prior to the covid, and they’ve only gone and cut all the improvements we made to handle a pandemic before the current one has even finished.
The government needs a plan next time for nursing homes.
If nursing homes had been secured, the death count would have been much lower, and people might not have lost their minds when faced with their mortality for the first time in their lives.
We had a situation where the average age of a COVID death was 82 years old, and we had 25 year olds shitposting on here about how they didn’t want to die.
It was insane.
Government messaging early on, was actually on point. They basically said if you’re young (under 50) and healthy, you have nothing to fear. Absolutely true.
They dropped that once they couldn’t stand the medias heat from Macron & Co locking down their countries, opting for an ‘EVERYONE PANIC IMMEDIATELY’ course of action which leads us to where we are today.
High cancer excess deaths, a mental health crisis, dumbfuck kids, unsocialised pitbulls murdering children, £400bn in debt, and an NHS on its knees.
All because people were lead to believe COVID was a threat to everyone, and not just a tiny subset of society that were on deaths door already for the most part.
Exercise Cygnus highlighted how unprepared we were back in 2016, and this government tried to bury the report.
At this stage, the only logical conclusion is that being unprepared for a pandemic is a conscious choice by this government
I’m not surprised at all.
The government line with resilience is that it is preferable to fail, rather than invest in emergency preparedness.
I worked in Emergency Planning from 2005-2016, during the early years all the groundwork was being laid after things like fire strikes and foot and mouth disease, and we actually had a fairly coherent emergency response to incidents (despite the horrific nature of the 7/7 bombings the response worked quite well). Since about 2012 everything got dismantled – there was a huge number of people leaving the profession, mostly redundancies of senior officers that led to a huge exodus of practical knowledge that was never replaced. As services evaporated, training exercises identified gaps that were never filled. I left before the big flu pandemic exercise (Exercise Cygnus) but I heard it didn’t go well.
I’m worried what another pandemic would do. In Grenfell and The Manchester Arena bombing, we’ve seen what the results are when services have been cut so badly.
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Could have stopped after the third word and many would probably nod in approval, shrug their shoulders and find an excuse not to vote.
I’m going to follow Japan’s lead on the next pandemic. Not saying it was perfect but they nailed it.
Tory government in weekly “we don’t need plans” shocker
We weren’t prepared for the last one despite a government exercise report stating they weren’t ready. But then how do the Tory party bleed the state of finances if they run things properly?
It wasn’t prepared for the last one despite running a pandemic exercise specifically for a SARS outbreak (Operation Alice) which told them all the shortfalls that they had and which they either ignored or exacerbated.
I feel like the only thing we learned from the last one, was that the Tories are a bunch of lying, contemptuous cunts, and some people didn’t even learn that.
Of course we’re not prepaired. It’s the Tories who are in charge. The only thing they are good at is lining their pockets with tax-payer’s cash.
The UK’s response to Covid was a total disaster because the Gov’t so often ignored advice, so the very best preparation for the next pandemic would include getting a new Gov’t.
To be fair, top health scientists previously believed we were amongst the *most* prepared for a pandemic, before we actually went through one.
Societal preparedness for a pandemic I believe is mostly in the minds of the population, in that we all need to cooperate and agree to restrictions and counter-measures. So we are now more prepared mentally to tackle the next one by nipping it in the bud (if possible, of course), having actually experienced one.
That’s what experts were saying about the Hong Kong response weren’t they, that the people of Hong Kong remembered previous scares and reacted quickly, accepting the counter-measures? Why wouldn’t that now be true of us?
Working against this of course is that we aren’t all in agreement that the measures were effective and it got caught up in our culture war. But in principal, broadly, we are more ready for a pandemic now than before.
Nor is any other country in the World.
Pandemic showed us clearly that if one day there is extremely deadly virus that spreads similar way to covid, nobody really can do anything about it…
The fact people went straight back to coughing in people’s faces, spitting on the ground and not washing their hands after using a public toilet maker this inevitable.
we’re not prepared for KFC running out of chicken for a day, never mind an unknown sodding pandemic.
the uk isn’t prepared for a stiff wind (figuratively and literally), never mind another pandemic
We’re barely prepared for winter, sod the next pandemic
Combination of the government failing to follow their own rules and a very big demographic of uneducated people that will believe any YouTube video with spooky enough music.
Our present P.M. Mr Sunak, didn’t do too well last time. Eat out to spread it about being an example. He won’t do too well the next time either, cos’ he doesn’t give a fick about public health…
Nope, we went right back to our old habits the second we could, and companies decided to crack down on WFH because they refuse to embrace change.
It’ll wind up being the exact same type of cluster fuck, any changes will be too late, people will be selfish, and nobody will accept responsibility.
Why prepare when you can then transfer more unimaginable wealth to your families and friends under disguise of emergency spend to save the country?
After 14 years of austerity, surely this country is exceptionally well funded and enriched so we could easily cope with any future pandemic costs. /s
Exercise Cygnus, a war-gaming operation simulating a large scale flu pandemic was run in 2016…
It’s findings?
>“The UK’s preparedness and response, in terms of its plans, policies and capability, is currently not sufficient to cope with the extreme demands of a severe pandemic that will have a nationwide impact across all sectors,”
They were warned and failed to act. Boris even disbanded a pandemic task force 6 months before the virus hit.
Why would Govt prepare for it when they can use it to spend public money on paying their chums for bogus contracts? Tories literally and figuratively made an absolute killing from the last one.
We weren’t ready for covid no shit we’re fucked fucking tories
Yes Minister’s 4 Stage Strategy.
Stage 1: We say nothing is going to happen.
Stage 2: We say something may be going to happen but we should do nothing about it.
Stage 3: We say maybe we should do something about it but there’s nothing we can do.
Stage 4: We say maybe there was something we could have done but it’s too late now.
very surprised to hear this we’re usuall really on it with these things.
“The UK is not ready for the next global pandemic because public services are being dismantled and key research is being defunded, experts have claimed.”
Really? It’s almost like our government care more about money than the people It’s meant to be governing.
Why prepare when you can siphon off funds to your mates again
The fact scientists warned us about covid over a decade ago and we weren’t prepared says everything.
But we weren’t prepared at all for the first one, why would we expect now to be any different? Has the government recently gotten more stable and less incompetent?
No? Okay so still going to be a disaster.
They weren’t prepared for the last one so I’m not surprised
The pandemic is here already, and it’s called widespread economic hardship and poverty. Wonder if lockdowns had anything to do with it?
You mean the country that chronically underfunds, neglects, and sells off all public services will be unprepared for the next disaster????
I’m shocked! Shocked, I tell you!!!
As a public health Dr I can tell you we are still not dealing with the current pandemic, let alone the next. The health burden of ongoing cases will be huge.
We have learnt v little in terms of behavior. How many people do you know who wash their hands when they come home or shake your hand after just coughing in it?! Simple things.
How can I listen to any lockdown rules when I had to watch my Dads funeral over a fucking live cam whilst the Cuntservatives partied it up.
I will never adhere to a lockdown again, and I will not be forced to be vaccinated by threat of social exclusion.
I won’t put my life, health and families wellbeing on hold while the “elite” party away.
My entire remaining trust and faith in the system went
I think the Tories learned loads and are VERY well advised about the next pandemic.
They know exactly how to embezzle public money, exactly how much fraud the public will tolerate, exactly how much scrutiny their dodgy nepotistic contracts will attract, and how to avoid it. They know how callous they can be. How to demonise virologists, and how to maximise on the successes of the science sector as if it were their own work, despite pitiful investment in the science industry.
The pandemic taught the tories they can freely loot the country and escape all the fraud charges.
We are barely prepared for current levels of healthcare needs, despite it being a summer with no particular ongoing problems.
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Honestly at the inevitable next one, people were lied to and messed around so much with so much nonsense last time that I don’t see why they would trust the government guidelines, meaning it would surely be far far worse.
My worry is you have a disease as contagious as covid but as deadly as MERS…
I’m fully prepared. No, I’m not going to work during a pandemic.
Fuck off and good luck.
People wont follow an social distancing, lockdown rules again.
We saw the elite not bother and it destroyed any sense of community.
Not prepared, yet we factory farm animals like we’re trying to set a new zoonotic pandemic speed record.
I need to get some louder pots and pans next time, so I can bang them harder and for longer.
It’s really no surprise that the government has defunded and failed to invest in the NHS and is even planning to sell off research facilities before they’ve even opened.
If another pandemic hits the country soon it’s going to be a lot worse because of the above defunding, a lack of public trust in government and scientists thanks to Partygate and probably lot less generous government support schemes next time round.
No shit, we weren’t even prepared for the last one.
Of course not. The tories cut all of our planning and resilience against pandemics prior to the covid, and they’ve only gone and cut all the improvements we made to handle a pandemic before the current one has even finished.
The government needs a plan next time for nursing homes.
If nursing homes had been secured, the death count would have been much lower, and people might not have lost their minds when faced with their mortality for the first time in their lives.
We had a situation where the average age of a COVID death was 82 years old, and we had 25 year olds shitposting on here about how they didn’t want to die.
It was insane.
Government messaging early on, was actually on point. They basically said if you’re young (under 50) and healthy, you have nothing to fear. Absolutely true.
They dropped that once they couldn’t stand the medias heat from Macron & Co locking down their countries, opting for an ‘EVERYONE PANIC IMMEDIATELY’ course of action which leads us to where we are today.
High cancer excess deaths, a mental health crisis, dumbfuck kids, unsocialised pitbulls murdering children, £400bn in debt, and an NHS on its knees.
All because people were lead to believe COVID was a threat to everyone, and not just a tiny subset of society that were on deaths door already for the most part.
Exercise Cygnus highlighted how unprepared we were back in 2016, and this government tried to bury the report.
At this stage, the only logical conclusion is that being unprepared for a pandemic is a conscious choice by this government
I’m not surprised at all.
The government line with resilience is that it is preferable to fail, rather than invest in emergency preparedness.
I worked in Emergency Planning from 2005-2016, during the early years all the groundwork was being laid after things like fire strikes and foot and mouth disease, and we actually had a fairly coherent emergency response to incidents (despite the horrific nature of the 7/7 bombings the response worked quite well). Since about 2012 everything got dismantled – there was a huge number of people leaving the profession, mostly redundancies of senior officers that led to a huge exodus of practical knowledge that was never replaced. As services evaporated, training exercises identified gaps that were never filled. I left before the big flu pandemic exercise (Exercise Cygnus) but I heard it didn’t go well.
I’m worried what another pandemic would do. In Grenfell and The Manchester Arena bombing, we’ve seen what the results are when services have been cut so badly.
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Could have stopped after the third word and many would probably nod in approval, shrug their shoulders and find an excuse not to vote.
I’m going to follow Japan’s lead on the next pandemic. Not saying it was perfect but they nailed it.
Tory government in weekly “we don’t need plans” shocker
We weren’t prepared for the last one despite a government exercise report stating they weren’t ready. But then how do the Tory party bleed the state of finances if they run things properly?
It wasn’t prepared for the last one despite running a pandemic exercise specifically for a SARS outbreak (Operation Alice) which told them all the shortfalls that they had and which they either ignored or exacerbated.
I feel like the only thing we learned from the last one, was that the Tories are a bunch of lying, contemptuous cunts, and some people didn’t even learn that.
Of course we’re not prepaired. It’s the Tories who are in charge. The only thing they are good at is lining their pockets with tax-payer’s cash.
The UK’s response to Covid was a total disaster because the Gov’t so often ignored advice, so the very best preparation for the next pandemic would include getting a new Gov’t.
To be fair, top health scientists previously believed we were amongst the *most* prepared for a pandemic, before we actually went through one.
Societal preparedness for a pandemic I believe is mostly in the minds of the population, in that we all need to cooperate and agree to restrictions and counter-measures. So we are now more prepared mentally to tackle the next one by nipping it in the bud (if possible, of course), having actually experienced one.
That’s what experts were saying about the Hong Kong response weren’t they, that the people of Hong Kong remembered previous scares and reacted quickly, accepting the counter-measures? Why wouldn’t that now be true of us?
Working against this of course is that we aren’t all in agreement that the measures were effective and it got caught up in our culture war. But in principal, broadly, we are more ready for a pandemic now than before.
Nor is any other country in the World.
Pandemic showed us clearly that if one day there is extremely deadly virus that spreads similar way to covid, nobody really can do anything about it…
The fact people went straight back to coughing in people’s faces, spitting on the ground and not washing their hands after using a public toilet maker this inevitable.
we’re not prepared for KFC running out of chicken for a day, never mind an unknown sodding pandemic.
the uk isn’t prepared for a stiff wind (figuratively and literally), never mind another pandemic
We’re barely prepared for winter, sod the next pandemic
Combination of the government failing to follow their own rules and a very big demographic of uneducated people that will believe any YouTube video with spooky enough music.
Our present P.M. Mr Sunak, didn’t do too well last time. Eat out to spread it about being an example. He won’t do too well the next time either, cos’ he doesn’t give a fick about public health…
Nope, we went right back to our old habits the second we could, and companies decided to crack down on WFH because they refuse to embrace change.
It’ll wind up being the exact same type of cluster fuck, any changes will be too late, people will be selfish, and nobody will accept responsibility.
Why prepare when you can then transfer more unimaginable wealth to your families and friends under disguise of emergency spend to save the country?
After 14 years of austerity, surely this country is exceptionally well funded and enriched so we could easily cope with any future pandemic costs. /s
Exercise Cygnus, a war-gaming operation simulating a large scale flu pandemic was run in 2016…
It’s findings?
>“The UK’s preparedness and response, in terms of its plans, policies and capability, is currently not sufficient to cope with the extreme demands of a severe pandemic that will have a nationwide impact across all sectors,”
They were warned and failed to act. Boris even disbanded a pandemic task force 6 months before the virus hit.
Why would Govt prepare for it when they can use it to spend public money on paying their chums for bogus contracts? Tories literally and figuratively made an absolute killing from the last one.
We weren’t ready for covid no shit we’re fucked fucking tories
Yes Minister’s 4 Stage Strategy.
Stage 1: We say nothing is going to happen.
Stage 2: We say something may be going to happen but we should do nothing about it.
Stage 3: We say maybe we should do something about it but there’s nothing we can do.
Stage 4: We say maybe there was something we could have done but it’s too late now.
very surprised to hear this we’re usuall really on it with these things.
“The UK is not ready for the next global pandemic because public services are being dismantled and key research is being defunded, experts have claimed.”
Really? It’s almost like our government care more about money than the people It’s meant to be governing.
Why prepare when you can siphon off funds to your mates again
The fact scientists warned us about covid over a decade ago and we weren’t prepared says everything.
But we weren’t prepared at all for the first one, why would we expect now to be any different? Has the government recently gotten more stable and less incompetent?
No? Okay so still going to be a disaster.
They weren’t prepared for the last one so I’m not surprised
The pandemic is here already, and it’s called widespread economic hardship and poverty. Wonder if lockdowns had anything to do with it?
You mean the country that chronically underfunds, neglects, and sells off all public services will be unprepared for the next disaster????
I’m shocked! Shocked, I tell you!!!
As a public health Dr I can tell you we are still not dealing with the current pandemic, let alone the next. The health burden of ongoing cases will be huge.
We have learnt v little in terms of behavior. How many people do you know who wash their hands when they come home or shake your hand after just coughing in it?! Simple things.
How can I listen to any lockdown rules when I had to watch my Dads funeral over a fucking live cam whilst the Cuntservatives partied it up.
I will never adhere to a lockdown again, and I will not be forced to be vaccinated by threat of social exclusion.
I won’t put my life, health and families wellbeing on hold while the “elite” party away.
My entire remaining trust and faith in the system went
I think the Tories learned loads and are VERY well advised about the next pandemic.
They know exactly how to embezzle public money, exactly how much fraud the public will tolerate, exactly how much scrutiny their dodgy nepotistic contracts will attract, and how to avoid it. They know how callous they can be. How to demonise virologists, and how to maximise on the successes of the science sector as if it were their own work, despite pitiful investment in the science industry.
The pandemic taught the tories they can freely loot the country and escape all the fraud charges.
We are barely prepared for current levels of healthcare needs, despite it being a summer with no particular ongoing problems.