People like the writer of this article, looking for anything to feign offence must be absolutely insufferable to know in real life. Imagine going on a night out with this knob head. It bet it’s a right barrel of laughs.
Maritime nation cities which rely on the sea have nautical symbols. Bit of a stretch to link it to Slavery.
Britain was known for its superior navy
Britain used that superior navy to help put a stop to slavery way before most even considered it to be wrong
Let’s chill people.
Some highlights.
“The badge represented the City of my childhood. Over the decades, it changed. In the 1990s, a monstrous golden eagle was introduced. It towered over the poor ship and had an unfortunate whiff of nazism about it.”
Seeing Nazis everywhere he goes. Are they in the room with us right now?
“Ships were not only a symbol of Manchester’s trading nous; they were also a symbol of exploitation.”
If you think hard enough, anything can be a symbol of exploitation. Does this writer wear cotton clothing? Do they own a smartphone or any other device that uses lithium or cadmium?
Surely, this individual who is telling us all how contrite we must be about our ancestors’ failings isn’t directly contributing to modern slavery?
“Until the end of 1865, when slavery was abolished in the US, that cargo was often produced by slave labour. Sometimes, the cargo was the slave labour.”
Sure, some ships were still carrying slaves but none of them were British, and certainly none of them were sailing out of Manchester. By this point, not only was slavery illegal in the entire British Empire, but the West Africa Squadron had been established to police the ocean and free any slaves they did find.
I do like the Guardian but I really am getting fed up with this almost relentless attacks on the UK. I am reasonably well travelled an I still think the UK is one of the best countries to live in, there is plenty wrong still. But for God’s sake focus on the here and now.
After the whole toppling of a statue causing a large collective chunk of the UK to lose their minds, I don’t think we’re really ready for a similar conversation involving anything to do with football.
Tbh, I didn’t even realise either team had a ship on their logo.
….I didn’t realise ships only transported slaves nothing else
Bit rich for the Guardian to preach about slavery when that is what founded it itself
I’d rather think City being owned by modern day slavers is more of a big deal, isn’t it?
Not sure how outraged we need to get if you have to deep dive and research in order to feel it, but there may be a wider point here, maybe rather than scrap just the bits we don’t like right now, we should reinvent stuff on a regular basis.
Oh fuck off…and when you get there, fuck off again.
> In 1993, the Guardian asked whether the ship might have had its day as the enduring icon of the city.
The Guardian recently admitted they have ties to slavery. Admitting that was the right thing to do and is a great example of media and news outlets being transparent and holding themselves accountable.
But as far as I know, they are still called ‘The Guardian’, so why are they asking another institution to remove any symbolic connection with slavery when they have not done the same?
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Sometimes it feels like the Guardian has been secretly brought up by some far right organisation on the sly in the last couple of years so that they can pump out ridiculous opinion pieces like this to further gee up their base and cause further division to exploit.
It’s sad how far they have fallen in the last decade. Sadly division leads to more division and those on either side get pushed further to extremes. And this makes it easier for those at the top to exploit the chaos. Or at least continue their ways in peace while everyone below fights with eachother
I wonder if the “journalist” who wrote this article realises that the computer they used to write it is a symbol of exploitation of third world slave labour and environmental damage right now. How about they write an article about that.
Guardian and Mirror are absolute trash.
Gotta push some ‘war’ all the fucking time as well.
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Oh pipe down you wet wipe.
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People like the writer of this article, looking for anything to feign offence must be absolutely insufferable to know in real life. Imagine going on a night out with this knob head. It bet it’s a right barrel of laughs.
Maritime nation cities which rely on the sea have nautical symbols. Bit of a stretch to link it to Slavery.
Britain was known for its superior navy
Britain used that superior navy to help put a stop to slavery way before most even considered it to be wrong
Let’s chill people.
Some highlights.
“The badge represented the City of my childhood. Over the decades, it changed. In the 1990s, a monstrous golden eagle was introduced. It towered over the poor ship and had an unfortunate whiff of nazism about it.”
Seeing Nazis everywhere he goes. Are they in the room with us right now?
“Ships were not only a symbol of Manchester’s trading nous; they were also a symbol of exploitation.”
If you think hard enough, anything can be a symbol of exploitation. Does this writer wear cotton clothing? Do they own a smartphone or any other device that uses lithium or cadmium?
Surely, this individual who is telling us all how contrite we must be about our ancestors’ failings isn’t directly contributing to modern slavery?
“Until the end of 1865, when slavery was abolished in the US, that cargo was often produced by slave labour. Sometimes, the cargo was the slave labour.”
Sure, some ships were still carrying slaves but none of them were British, and certainly none of them were sailing out of Manchester. By this point, not only was slavery illegal in the entire British Empire, but the West Africa Squadron had been established to police the ocean and free any slaves they did find.
I do like the Guardian but I really am getting fed up with this almost relentless attacks on the UK. I am reasonably well travelled an I still think the UK is one of the best countries to live in, there is plenty wrong still. But for God’s sake focus on the here and now.
After the whole toppling of a statue causing a large collective chunk of the UK to lose their minds, I don’t think we’re really ready for a similar conversation involving anything to do with football.
Tbh, I didn’t even realise either team had a ship on their logo.
….I didn’t realise ships only transported slaves nothing else
Bit rich for the Guardian to preach about slavery when that is what founded it itself
I’d rather think City being owned by modern day slavers is more of a big deal, isn’t it?
Not sure how outraged we need to get if you have to deep dive and research in order to feel it, but there may be a wider point here, maybe rather than scrap just the bits we don’t like right now, we should reinvent stuff on a regular basis.
Oh fuck off…and when you get there, fuck off again.
> In 1993, the Guardian asked whether the ship might have had its day as the enduring icon of the city.
The Guardian recently admitted they have ties to slavery. Admitting that was the right thing to do and is a great example of media and news outlets being transparent and holding themselves accountable.
But as far as I know, they are still called ‘The Guardian’, so why are they asking another institution to remove any symbolic connection with slavery when they have not done the same?
[deleted]
Sometimes it feels like the Guardian has been secretly brought up by some far right organisation on the sly in the last couple of years so that they can pump out ridiculous opinion pieces like this to further gee up their base and cause further division to exploit.
It’s sad how far they have fallen in the last decade. Sadly division leads to more division and those on either side get pushed further to extremes. And this makes it easier for those at the top to exploit the chaos. Or at least continue their ways in peace while everyone below fights with eachother
I wonder if the “journalist” who wrote this article realises that the computer they used to write it is a symbol of exploitation of third world slave labour and environmental damage right now. How about they write an article about that.
Guardian and Mirror are absolute trash.
Gotta push some ‘war’ all the fucking time as well.