That’s great, but the people that need convincing won’t believe it anyway.
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Why was I told about it as a risk before getting shots 2 and 3 then?
I heard it from them not from antivaxxers…
So, which vaccines did they test? Cause afaik *only* the Astrazeneca one was associated with Thrombotic Thrombocytopenia. The mRNA ones are associated instead with myocarditis and pericarditis, a completely different potential side effect.
If i remember correctly there was a study 14 years ago that confirmed Thrombocytopenia in mice intravenously dosed with the viral vector Astrazeneca used in their vaccine. It was concerning the UK didn’t, as a policy, aspirate before injections to ensure the vaccine wasn’t put into a vein(intravenous) by mistake.
What are the “anti-vax blood clot claims” that the title refers to? It doesn’t say in the article.
Well, if it’s been proven to be false then I’m sure the antivaxx nutters will welcome this news and shut down their protests.
The folk too stupid to wipe their arse properly are not going to be won over by any amount of scientific evidence as they’re staunchly anti-science.
In their warped minds the scientific community is government sponsored (or WEF sponsored) and completely corrupt. They only believe a scientist if they’re saying something that reaffirms their previously held beliefs.
These are not critical thinkers let alone “free thinkers”, it’s a bunch of sheep bleating about other people being sheep. Non conformists conforming to non conformity without a hint or irony.
It was already proven you’re far more likely to get clots after catching covid than you were with after being dosed with any of the vaccines.
But it doesn’t matter. They’ll believe whatever they want/what Facebook, bitchute and YouTube tell them to.
I have read and not perhaps fully understood the findings here. So you have a 1.4 in a million more chance of having a blood clot if you are vaccinated v not vaccinated, which really is negligible. If you get Covid you are significantly more likely to have a blood clot.
The bit for me that I may have missed is the probability of a blood clot when vaccinated and you have Covid v probability of a blood clot when unvaccinated and you get Covid.
I am vaccinated and a believer in the vaccine, my SIL is a conspiracy theorist and believes the “blood clot causing vaccine” message
In general conspiracy theorists dont believe in science and facts. Moon landing hoax, covid deniers, flat Earthers you name it, there all the same. They dont believe any evidence or facts put infront of them
Great, unfortunately conspiracy theories will just divert the course onto the next ‘finding’, endless moving of the goalposts is how they stay alive.
Oh no, a study suggests people with zero scientific background were wrong about a scientific problem. Who would have thought?
It’s a trivial risk until you or a family member are that unlucky 1 in a million person
The people we are trying to convince are not experts with a healthy sense of skepticism, it is conspiracy theorists who only want evidence that backs up their beliefs. They do not care about how rigorous or large a data study is when it does not tell them what they want to hear, they will listen to the blog of someone with no medical experience first for this reason.
My dad passed away after having both of his vacs all in the same year span so I naturally jumped the gun and got worried it may have been the vacs I convinced him to get. I’m glad to see I was a fool for letting myself believe it could’ve been the vaccines
Stroke deaths are up over 15% but the trend dates back to the early 2000s so Covid and its vaccines don’t explain it.
All I know I’ve had my 2 and won’t every have any more.
they made me more Ill then any of the multiple times I had covid before and admittedly after the vaccines but wanted to go on holiday so had to get them….
And my dad got a couple of blood clots must have been not long after which ever jab it was (coincidence or not 🤷) but some how manged to survive even though they were in real. Bad places despite the GPs and people at the hospital being utterly utterly utterly utterly useless
I say people have their own views and opinions and if someone dosnt want to get a vaccine against something for whatever reason then 🤷 that’s up to them and it’s not anyone else business to tell them otherwise….
The people funding these studies are the same people funding the vaccine.
Follow the money.
What is an American blog post about an American study published 2 months ago, doing in r/uk?
>Big data study refutes anti-vax blood clot claims about COVID-19 vaccines
No it doesn’t, Australia recently stopped the AZ vaccine because it was causing thrombotic thrombocytopenia in alarming amounts. The AZ vaccine was also stopped in multiple european countries for causing blood clots in young boys, but the British health system didn’t have the balls to come out and say it, so we just said “the other vaccines are recommended instead for being more effective”.
Excess deaths are still up in every western country and experts are “baffled” at this but no one is looking into why.
The people funding these studies are the big pharma companies themselves. A number of non-american and non-european researchers have done less biased studies.
I still regret taking it, I’ve had covid 3 times, first time after one dose, the other 2 after 2 doses, they all kept me in bed, even the one after I had pneumonia, since I got the jab my epilepsy has been a lot worse, leading to many more seizures and a lot worse too, I’m a fucking vegetable I can’t even was dishes anymore.
Fuck the government and whoever made the decision to roll out barely tested “vaccines”
I’m fucked up for life, and I know for a fact it was the jabs because epilepsy doesn’t get as bad as this over night.
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That’s great, but the people that need convincing won’t believe it anyway.
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Why was I told about it as a risk before getting shots 2 and 3 then?
I heard it from them not from antivaxxers…
So, which vaccines did they test? Cause afaik *only* the Astrazeneca one was associated with Thrombotic Thrombocytopenia. The mRNA ones are associated instead with myocarditis and pericarditis, a completely different potential side effect.
If i remember correctly there was a study 14 years ago that confirmed Thrombocytopenia in mice intravenously dosed with the viral vector Astrazeneca used in their vaccine. It was concerning the UK didn’t, as a policy, aspirate before injections to ensure the vaccine wasn’t put into a vein(intravenous) by mistake.
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[here](https://ashpublications.org/blood/article/109/7/2832/125650/Adenovirus-induced-thrombocytopenia-the-role-of) is the study from 2006 showing Adenovirus causing Thrombocytopenia in mice when given intravenously.
So this ‘[Big data study](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10052419/table/tbl2/?report=objectonly)’ doesn’t test the vaccine that’s actually associated with the side effect its looking for.
What are the “anti-vax blood clot claims” that the title refers to? It doesn’t say in the article.
Well, if it’s been proven to be false then I’m sure the antivaxx nutters will welcome this news and shut down their protests.
The folk too stupid to wipe their arse properly are not going to be won over by any amount of scientific evidence as they’re staunchly anti-science.
In their warped minds the scientific community is government sponsored (or WEF sponsored) and completely corrupt. They only believe a scientist if they’re saying something that reaffirms their previously held beliefs.
These are not critical thinkers let alone “free thinkers”, it’s a bunch of sheep bleating about other people being sheep. Non conformists conforming to non conformity without a hint or irony.
It was already proven you’re far more likely to get clots after catching covid than you were with after being dosed with any of the vaccines.
But it doesn’t matter. They’ll believe whatever they want/what Facebook, bitchute and YouTube tell them to.
I have read and not perhaps fully understood the findings here. So you have a 1.4 in a million more chance of having a blood clot if you are vaccinated v not vaccinated, which really is negligible. If you get Covid you are significantly more likely to have a blood clot.
The bit for me that I may have missed is the probability of a blood clot when vaccinated and you have Covid v probability of a blood clot when unvaccinated and you get Covid.
I am vaccinated and a believer in the vaccine, my SIL is a conspiracy theorist and believes the “blood clot causing vaccine” message
In general conspiracy theorists dont believe in science and facts. Moon landing hoax, covid deniers, flat Earthers you name it, there all the same. They dont believe any evidence or facts put infront of them
Great, unfortunately conspiracy theories will just divert the course onto the next ‘finding’, endless moving of the goalposts is how they stay alive.
Oh no, a study suggests people with zero scientific background were wrong about a scientific problem. Who would have thought?
It’s a trivial risk until you or a family member are that unlucky 1 in a million person
The people we are trying to convince are not experts with a healthy sense of skepticism, it is conspiracy theorists who only want evidence that backs up their beliefs. They do not care about how rigorous or large a data study is when it does not tell them what they want to hear, they will listen to the blog of someone with no medical experience first for this reason.
My dad passed away after having both of his vacs all in the same year span so I naturally jumped the gun and got worried it may have been the vacs I convinced him to get. I’m glad to see I was a fool for letting myself believe it could’ve been the vaccines
Stroke deaths are up over 15% but the trend dates back to the early 2000s so Covid and its vaccines don’t explain it.
All I know I’ve had my 2 and won’t every have any more.
they made me more Ill then any of the multiple times I had covid before and admittedly after the vaccines but wanted to go on holiday so had to get them….
And my dad got a couple of blood clots must have been not long after which ever jab it was (coincidence or not 🤷) but some how manged to survive even though they were in real. Bad places despite the GPs and people at the hospital being utterly utterly utterly utterly useless
I say people have their own views and opinions and if someone dosnt want to get a vaccine against something for whatever reason then 🤷 that’s up to them and it’s not anyone else business to tell them otherwise….
This [teenager from utah](https://www.abc4.com/news/local-news/draper-teenager-hospitalized-with-blood-clots-after-covid-19-vaccine-shot/) will surely be relieved to find out a study has refuted the blood clots that formed in his brain several days after getting vaccinated.
The people funding these studies are the same people funding the vaccine.
Follow the money.
What is an American blog post about an American study published 2 months ago, doing in r/uk?
>Big data study refutes anti-vax blood clot claims about COVID-19 vaccines
No it doesn’t, Australia recently stopped the AZ vaccine because it was causing thrombotic thrombocytopenia in alarming amounts. The AZ vaccine was also stopped in multiple european countries for causing blood clots in young boys, but the British health system didn’t have the balls to come out and say it, so we just said “the other vaccines are recommended instead for being more effective”.
Excess deaths are still up in every western country and experts are “baffled” at this but no one is looking into why.
The people funding these studies are the big pharma companies themselves. A number of non-american and non-european researchers have done less biased studies.
I still regret taking it, I’ve had covid 3 times, first time after one dose, the other 2 after 2 doses, they all kept me in bed, even the one after I had pneumonia, since I got the jab my epilepsy has been a lot worse, leading to many more seizures and a lot worse too, I’m a fucking vegetable I can’t even was dishes anymore.
Fuck the government and whoever made the decision to roll out barely tested “vaccines”
I’m fucked up for life, and I know for a fact it was the jabs because epilepsy doesn’t get as bad as this over night.