All while greedy private landlords are booting people out in to the street at record rates.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say again – abolish private rent and turn these properties into social housing. Also seize empty homes owned by the rich and turn them into affordable housing.
And yes build more housing, much, much more.
Removing the profit incentive from housing is absolutely critical if our economy is to survive the next decade or two. Even if somehow we dont face hundreds of thousands of people going homeless; the costs drastically reduce actual disposable income.
You cant have a functional economy if theres no money to go around. If after housing; food; basic utilities and transport to work is taken into account theres little to no money left the economy will collapse rapidly. We’re well on our way towards that.
Frankly there needs to be a major national rebuilding of social housing.
The rules limiting replacement of stock and forcing sell offs need to be cancelled.
Rules around selling off to limit this need to be put in place.
This isnt something that can be solved by pretending it isnt a critical part of our nation as a whole. Yes local plans can and should drive the implemention in the local area but the actual programmes needs to be a major national project.
I hope they’re going to be build with the future in mind and not just basic houses with gas boilers.
I notice Sadiq likes to take credit for local councils’ achievements.
So two. Still a quadrillion times better than anything the Toryrists are doing
London isn’t building anywhere near enough housing and we’re certainly not building anywhere near enough council housing.
Well done to Khan for managing to get the numbers up despite the constraints of a Conservative government (the highest figures since the 1970s is worth at least some praise), but if our numbers are still this bad and the rest of the country is building **even less than that** then it’s hardly a surprise that rent is unaffordable.
It’s pretty much impossible to come to any conclusion other than that rents are going up because the government wants rents to go up. Given how many MPs are landlords, it’s not really in their interest to build enough homes that the rest of us can afford to live.
Try doin that for a former coal minin town. You can’t because there isn’t a budget for it, London in the other hand..
Which get bought out…? Goddamn it can someone abolish the right to buy scheme already? Or alter it or something?
That’s the only way this vicious housing whirlpool will come to an end.
Because London gets its funds. Most councils either have to beg for funds or find a way thus don’t bother. It’s a fucking joke..If it’s London, it’s gets prioritised in everything.
The conservatives just want their rich mates to be richer
All those newbuilt apartment blocks are either empty or filled with international students. It’s all a farce…
It doesn’t matter if you’re building more and quicker, most of the get snatched up by funds and profissional landlords and put up for rent. Normal people can’t even get a shot at buying them.
Based on the conversations in this thread, I can tell that privatising a necessity like housing has been a really good idea and we should privatise more things since privatisation is good and not privatisation is bad.
I’m just a pragmatic moderate liberal. No ideology from me, no siree.
I’m all for blasting conservatives but London is a big and population dense place
I’d like to see more support for households which are net contributors to the economy, but have all their disposable income eaten up through housing. It seems absolutely nuts you’d drain the most productive people in your society. Enabling that segment of society to be socially mobile, increasing their wealth, reinvesting into the economy etc. That would be better for everybody.
I’d introduce a new class of council house class, not operated at a loss or profit. I would keep the right to buy (as it encourages people to invest in their homes), but enforce the requirement every property sold would have to be replaced like for like (or better), and they couldn’t be sold on for more than an inflation adjusted price (+ whatever they personally invested, ie adding an extension).
It seems the ‘middle class’ (for lack of a better term) get hammered from every direction. Imagine what would happen if that socio economic segment just went F-IT and stopped working – I’d be absolute chaos.
Not difficult with the population London has , what’s it like when adjusted for population?
London builds more council houses
Has a less crime per capita than a lot of the UK in spite of being a huge city
Is moving to becoming one of the least air polluted megacities in the world.
It’s becoming one of the most tolerant and diverse cities in the world especially for minorities: Jewish community, Lgbtq+
Sadiq Khan is doing a good job in the places where he’s allowed to make a difference.
Hope that this might benefit other areas in the UK, as this must surely be a big influence on young people as to where it is viable to live. I don’t know, but is there actually the land available in the London area to build any more property?
Imagine that much of it has already been bought up years ago by big corporations with MPs on the board…
Well London has a good few million people, I don’t think a town of 35,000 people will build just as many. Even if you’re looking at hundreds of them combined. (the government can’t even collect bins reliably without charging you for garden waste while upping the council tax 25% in the past year).
Still cant get one as a disabled person in an unfit and abusive household. Weird!
There’s few council homes being built, there may be new housing association homes being built, but they aren’t for council rents and don’t have lifelong secure tenancies
Population of Greater London
8.908 million (2018)
Any council homes/social housing that get built needs to be protected from being sold off by the Tories as soon as they get the chance.
Giving away public assets and wealth on the cheap to their mates or for votes is Torying 101.
If you build it, they will flog it for pennies.
Wonky view of reality you’ve got there mate.
Enjoy putting out bad info while playing culture wars or whatever.
Rest of us past that while this country turns to shit underneath us.
Fuck Khan and fuck the Tory fucks, no fucking one to fucking vote for, fucksake
i know there are issues with ULEZ, butt this guy seems alot more interested in being a LABOUR leader, than Keir Starmar does.
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Starmar just wants to be Prime Minister, and he will say, ignore what he has said previously, to get there,
Lemme fix this
Council lets thousands of houses rot and fall to bits and then buys like 3 from one new build site and calls that progress
Councils dont build houses they just buy a few from commercial developers of new build sites
Which doesn’t fix the problem whatsoever as no additional houses actually get built rather they leave perfectly viable old build semi detached, detached and terrace houses to fall apart instead of taking he cost of buying the new build shoe boxes to refurbish and remodel hundreds of old build houses that would either A: sell for good profit as people prefer old build houses and B: open up more homes for low income families than just buying from commercial developers
Source i fuckin work in construction as a bricklayer in training
What they do wont fix the issue of the housing crisis
We do actually have the houses but most are in such a state due to the government they cant be used and the general public cant afford to buy the houses to fix the issues themselves
Case in point being the hundreds of houses that got put up for £1 but basically all of them were utterly ruined beyond what home owners could fix unless they could literally build a house themselves
I thought Sadiq Khan was a muzzie authoritarian who wanted to force poor people to buy expensive cars? That’s what the Tories told me
/s
Well the Tories prefer to snarl how Labour can’t do the job while defunding Labour areas.
X amount of new build have to be social housing.
But everyone myself included hate working on socials as the company’s that own them are an absolute pain in the ass and they normally don’t pay as well so they’re even worse quality then normal new builds and as many people as possible avoid working on them on site…
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All while greedy private landlords are booting people out in to the street at record rates.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say again – abolish private rent and turn these properties into social housing. Also seize empty homes owned by the rich and turn them into affordable housing.
And yes build more housing, much, much more.
Removing the profit incentive from housing is absolutely critical if our economy is to survive the next decade or two. Even if somehow we dont face hundreds of thousands of people going homeless; the costs drastically reduce actual disposable income.
You cant have a functional economy if theres no money to go around. If after housing; food; basic utilities and transport to work is taken into account theres little to no money left the economy will collapse rapidly. We’re well on our way towards that.
Frankly there needs to be a major national rebuilding of social housing.
The rules limiting replacement of stock and forcing sell offs need to be cancelled.
Rules around selling off to limit this need to be put in place.
This isnt something that can be solved by pretending it isnt a critical part of our nation as a whole. Yes local plans can and should drive the implemention in the local area but the actual programmes needs to be a major national project.
I hope they’re going to be build with the future in mind and not just basic houses with gas boilers.
I notice Sadiq likes to take credit for local councils’ achievements.
So two. Still a quadrillion times better than anything the Toryrists are doing
London isn’t building anywhere near enough housing and we’re certainly not building anywhere near enough council housing.
Well done to Khan for managing to get the numbers up despite the constraints of a Conservative government (the highest figures since the 1970s is worth at least some praise), but if our numbers are still this bad and the rest of the country is building **even less than that** then it’s hardly a surprise that rent is unaffordable.
It’s pretty much impossible to come to any conclusion other than that rents are going up because the government wants rents to go up. Given how many MPs are landlords, it’s not really in their interest to build enough homes that the rest of us can afford to live.
Try doin that for a former coal minin town. You can’t because there isn’t a budget for it, London in the other hand..
Which get bought out…? Goddamn it can someone abolish the right to buy scheme already? Or alter it or something?
That’s the only way this vicious housing whirlpool will come to an end.
Because London gets its funds. Most councils either have to beg for funds or find a way thus don’t bother. It’s a fucking joke..If it’s London, it’s gets prioritised in everything.
The conservatives just want their rich mates to be richer
All those newbuilt apartment blocks are either empty or filled with international students. It’s all a farce…
It doesn’t matter if you’re building more and quicker, most of the get snatched up by funds and profissional landlords and put up for rent. Normal people can’t even get a shot at buying them.
Based on the conversations in this thread, I can tell that privatising a necessity like housing has been a really good idea and we should privatise more things since privatisation is good and not privatisation is bad.
I’m just a pragmatic moderate liberal. No ideology from me, no siree.
I’m all for blasting conservatives but London is a big and population dense place
I’d like to see more support for households which are net contributors to the economy, but have all their disposable income eaten up through housing. It seems absolutely nuts you’d drain the most productive people in your society. Enabling that segment of society to be socially mobile, increasing their wealth, reinvesting into the economy etc. That would be better for everybody.
I’d introduce a new class of council house class, not operated at a loss or profit. I would keep the right to buy (as it encourages people to invest in their homes), but enforce the requirement every property sold would have to be replaced like for like (or better), and they couldn’t be sold on for more than an inflation adjusted price (+ whatever they personally invested, ie adding an extension).
It seems the ‘middle class’ (for lack of a better term) get hammered from every direction. Imagine what would happen if that socio economic segment just went F-IT and stopped working – I’d be absolute chaos.
Not difficult with the population London has , what’s it like when adjusted for population?
London builds more council houses
Has a less crime per capita than a lot of the UK in spite of being a huge city
Is moving to becoming one of the least air polluted megacities in the world.
It’s becoming one of the most tolerant and diverse cities in the world especially for minorities: Jewish community, Lgbtq+
Sadiq Khan is doing a good job in the places where he’s allowed to make a difference.
Hope that this might benefit other areas in the UK, as this must surely be a big influence on young people as to where it is viable to live. I don’t know, but is there actually the land available in the London area to build any more property?
Imagine that much of it has already been bought up years ago by big corporations with MPs on the board…
Well London has a good few million people, I don’t think a town of 35,000 people will build just as many. Even if you’re looking at hundreds of them combined. (the government can’t even collect bins reliably without charging you for garden waste while upping the council tax 25% in the past year).
Still cant get one as a disabled person in an unfit and abusive household. Weird!
There’s few council homes being built, there may be new housing association homes being built, but they aren’t for council rents and don’t have lifelong secure tenancies
Population of Greater London
8.908 million (2018)
Any council homes/social housing that get built needs to be protected from being sold off by the Tories as soon as they get the chance.
Giving away public assets and wealth on the cheap to their mates or for votes is Torying 101.
If you build it, they will flog it for pennies.
Wonky view of reality you’ve got there mate.
Enjoy putting out bad info while playing culture wars or whatever.
Rest of us past that while this country turns to shit underneath us.
Fuck Khan and fuck the Tory fucks, no fucking one to fucking vote for, fucksake
i know there are issues with ULEZ, butt this guy seems alot more interested in being a LABOUR leader, than Keir Starmar does.
​
Starmar just wants to be Prime Minister, and he will say, ignore what he has said previously, to get there,
Lemme fix this
Council lets thousands of houses rot and fall to bits and then buys like 3 from one new build site and calls that progress
Councils dont build houses they just buy a few from commercial developers of new build sites
Which doesn’t fix the problem whatsoever as no additional houses actually get built rather they leave perfectly viable old build semi detached, detached and terrace houses to fall apart instead of taking he cost of buying the new build shoe boxes to refurbish and remodel hundreds of old build houses that would either A: sell for good profit as people prefer old build houses and B: open up more homes for low income families than just buying from commercial developers
Source i fuckin work in construction as a bricklayer in training
What they do wont fix the issue of the housing crisis
We do actually have the houses but most are in such a state due to the government they cant be used and the general public cant afford to buy the houses to fix the issues themselves
Case in point being the hundreds of houses that got put up for £1 but basically all of them were utterly ruined beyond what home owners could fix unless they could literally build a house themselves
I thought Sadiq Khan was a muzzie authoritarian who wanted to force poor people to buy expensive cars? That’s what the Tories told me
/s
Well the Tories prefer to snarl how Labour can’t do the job while defunding Labour areas.
X amount of new build have to be social housing.
But everyone myself included hate working on socials as the company’s that own them are an absolute pain in the ass and they normally don’t pay as well so they’re even worse quality then normal new builds and as many people as possible avoid working on them on site…