Very unlikely, Poland’s population is a fraction of either Germany, France, the UK, Italy or most other influential countries like Japan, South Korea, etc. Poland’s economic growth has been impressive but it will be slowing down, with the effects visible even already this year, at least predicted. It’s still one of the poorer European states, one of the less influential politically and on the world stage. And even though Poland has improved drastically, more people leave the country than emigrate to it. Poland will be fine, but it will never be a superpower by any definition, let’s be realistic
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It won’t be. Best we can reliably get is a regional power, if we play our cards well.
Our economy is unstable at best thanks to PiS screwing up laws, lowering ability to capitalize on low wages and getting cut off from cheap materials from the east. Our demography is shit. We will be forced to massively overspend on the military if we are to be and present ourselves as a safe country for long-term investments.
Our opportunities are, i.e.: profiting from getting Ukraine close to and finally in EU (in same vein as Germany profited from 2004) that’s a massive market + workforce, head start in EV (battery and all) market, jumping on the SMR bandwagon quite early, well developed service outsourcing, road haulage, programming industries and history of good economic relations with advanced far-east countries (Korea and Japan) which companies’ may chose to capitalize through Poland on aforementioned to enter EU market.
A man can dream
Wieczni malkontenci incoming
Poland superpower 2024
Would love to see that happening, but I doubt it. Not because of Poland being bad in any way but because I don’t see any European country or Europe as a whole developing in such a direction. We (Europe) are politically and economically less important for the world.
There is an interesting perspective on this from the book “The Next 100 Years” by George Friedman. It came out already over a decade ago so you can see some of his predictions held up better than others, but he also thought that Poland would rise in power. His view was that it would rather become a regional power than a global power, which I do think makes sense given how the country has been developing. Friedman didn’t predict PiS though, which I think has held the country back from reaching higher potential.
I couldn’t find the part about being the net recipient of around $150 Billion, not corrected for inflation, from the EU.
For comparison, the cost of rebuilding Ukraine was just estimated at $411 Billion by the World Bank. Syria would cost a similar amount.
Don’t make me laugh. With what.?? Decreasing population? Who will stand to protect the Commonwealth of Poland in the near future?? Who?? In the beginning of the 90 there was something like 40 mln Poles. Now they are barely 38 mln. This nation is shrinking. And the problem is in the capitol city (so called – the government). If they don’t change, nothing gonna happen as they imagine.
No, it won’t. The vast majority of politicians in this god-forsaken land have no interest in developing the country. They’re more preoccupied with calling each other Russian agents, throwing insults back and forth, and counting money.
as a polish person, living in poland, and having lived in poland whole my life, I can only cringe at this kinda shit
Ahhh the elites. Planning to destroy Poland like many other countries. Be careful.
> Adjusted for purchasing parity, GDP per head in Poland is now £28,200 compared with £35,000 in the UK, £34,200 in France and £39,800 in Germany. At its current trajectory rate, Poland will overtake the UK by 2030.
How did they, based on this, draw the graph, where Poland nearly doubles EU?
On the OECD site they provide as source, its 74 for Poland, not 200.
*winger hussar noises intensify*
The problem with this article is that it assumes based on historical data, that the future growth will be same or better than it used to be and that UK trajectory will also stay the same. It’s possible, but it’s not guaranteed. Though, I hope it happens. Poland has been destroyed by neighbors many times and it’s been able to rebuild itself not once. It’s unique geographical location puts it between historically hostile countries, so the focus should be on building it’s economic soft power, but also making sure it can defend itself. I think government is making some pretty good, long term decisions in some cases. Building wall, purchasing a lot of military equipment, building unity around Ukraine are some of prime examples in my opinion. I won’t talk about inner country issues because it’s been a while since I’ve lived in Poland …
At least in the US, Poland has been painted in very positive way which leads by example, risking a lot by making sure Ukraine gets what it needs to win this war. I think this is somewhat understated in Poland because it’s not always easy to know what is being spoken about some country elsewhere, but all I can say is that perception of Poland has skyrocketed recently and there has been a LOT of critics towards Germany & France as the expectation was that they will be more involved & take more leading role. Understatement would be to say that people in the US are disappointed with Germany & France role in this conflict.
holy cope
Can Poland into space?
Go pierogies!
wreszcie
#POLAND STRONK!
“Superpower” is a strong word for a country without nukes. But I’m glad Poland will have a good enough military to be feared by Russia.
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Very unlikely, Poland’s population is a fraction of either Germany, France, the UK, Italy or most other influential countries like Japan, South Korea, etc. Poland’s economic growth has been impressive but it will be slowing down, with the effects visible even already this year, at least predicted. It’s still one of the poorer European states, one of the less influential politically and on the world stage. And even though Poland has improved drastically, more people leave the country than emigrate to it. Poland will be fine, but it will never be a superpower by any definition, let’s be realistic
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It won’t be. Best we can reliably get is a regional power, if we play our cards well.
Our economy is unstable at best thanks to PiS screwing up laws, lowering ability to capitalize on low wages and getting cut off from cheap materials from the east. Our demography is shit. We will be forced to massively overspend on the military if we are to be and present ourselves as a safe country for long-term investments.
Our opportunities are, i.e.: profiting from getting Ukraine close to and finally in EU (in same vein as Germany profited from 2004) that’s a massive market + workforce, head start in EV (battery and all) market, jumping on the SMR bandwagon quite early, well developed service outsourcing, road haulage, programming industries and history of good economic relations with advanced far-east countries (Korea and Japan) which companies’ may chose to capitalize through Poland on aforementioned to enter EU market.
A man can dream
Wieczni malkontenci incoming
Poland superpower 2024
Would love to see that happening, but I doubt it. Not because of Poland being bad in any way but because I don’t see any European country or Europe as a whole developing in such a direction. We (Europe) are politically and economically less important for the world.
There is an interesting perspective on this from the book “The Next 100 Years” by George Friedman. It came out already over a decade ago so you can see some of his predictions held up better than others, but he also thought that Poland would rise in power. His view was that it would rather become a regional power than a global power, which I do think makes sense given how the country has been developing. Friedman didn’t predict PiS though, which I think has held the country back from reaching higher potential.
I couldn’t find the part about being the net recipient of around $150 Billion, not corrected for inflation, from the EU.
For comparison, the cost of rebuilding Ukraine was just estimated at $411 Billion by the World Bank. Syria would cost a similar amount.
Here we go again: https://pl.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_sukcesu
Bez elektrowni atomowej…
Don’t make me laugh. With what.?? Decreasing population? Who will stand to protect the Commonwealth of Poland in the near future?? Who?? In the beginning of the 90 there was something like 40 mln Poles. Now they are barely 38 mln. This nation is shrinking. And the problem is in the capitol city (so called – the government). If they don’t change, nothing gonna happen as they imagine.
No, it won’t. The vast majority of politicians in this god-forsaken land have no interest in developing the country. They’re more preoccupied with calling each other Russian agents, throwing insults back and forth, and counting money.
as a polish person, living in poland, and having lived in poland whole my life, I can only cringe at this kinda shit
Ahhh the elites. Planning to destroy Poland like many other countries. Be careful.
> Adjusted for purchasing parity, GDP per head in Poland is now £28,200 compared with £35,000 in the UK, £34,200 in France and £39,800 in Germany. At its current trajectory rate, Poland will overtake the UK by 2030.
How did they, based on this, draw the graph, where Poland nearly doubles EU?
On the OECD site they provide as source, its 74 for Poland, not 200.
*winger hussar noises intensify*
The problem with this article is that it assumes based on historical data, that the future growth will be same or better than it used to be and that UK trajectory will also stay the same. It’s possible, but it’s not guaranteed. Though, I hope it happens. Poland has been destroyed by neighbors many times and it’s been able to rebuild itself not once. It’s unique geographical location puts it between historically hostile countries, so the focus should be on building it’s economic soft power, but also making sure it can defend itself. I think government is making some pretty good, long term decisions in some cases. Building wall, purchasing a lot of military equipment, building unity around Ukraine are some of prime examples in my opinion. I won’t talk about inner country issues because it’s been a while since I’ve lived in Poland …
At least in the US, Poland has been painted in very positive way which leads by example, risking a lot by making sure Ukraine gets what it needs to win this war. I think this is somewhat understated in Poland because it’s not always easy to know what is being spoken about some country elsewhere, but all I can say is that perception of Poland has skyrocketed recently and there has been a LOT of critics towards Germany & France as the expectation was that they will be more involved & take more leading role. Understatement would be to say that people in the US are disappointed with Germany & France role in this conflict.
holy cope
Can Poland into space?
Go pierogies!
wreszcie
#POLAND STRONK!
“Superpower” is a strong word for a country without nukes. But I’m glad Poland will have a good enough military to be feared by Russia.