Average wage is about £34,000 for NHS staff, 5% pay rise is barely an extra £100 a month after tax.
“All that for a drop of blood”
Pathetic pay rise, the strikes were basically a wase of time.
“Including nurses”, the Royal College of Nursing voted against it and are planning a national ballot members for further striking (the last was a local ballot).
This seems like a loss for both the unions and the government — the former accepted a meagre pay rise and the latter were forced to backtrack on their refusal to negotiate
Fantastic news that they’ve come to an agreement! I’m sure both sides won’t have achieved all they wanted to but as it ever is in labour disputes.
Edit: why the downvotes? This is good news.
Wow 5%.
Basically a week or two of travel and lunch money.
Unions wasted a lot of time and effort then.
I hope the strikes keep going, because the actual government offer is a joke. It would be a tragedy if NHS staff get bullied into accepting pathetically low wages.
When do the police get 5%?
5% pay rises, whilst most in the private sector get more than that and don’t have to strike once.
How is this a victory
The government may well be pleased with this, but this is bad news. If you have a staff member asking for a bigger raise and you decline them that raise, you should expect that staff member to immediately start hunting for a better role. They haven’t decided the 5% offer is fair; they have decided it isn’t worth their time, and they can’t afford, to keep arguing over it. The NHS has been hemorrhaging staff for years and it’s going to get worse.
Gee it’s like the Tories don’t care about commoners wanting a fair pay rise.
What a load of rubbish why give up for little pay
Pretty pathetic to fold this early and for such a low offer.
I’m a nurse working in critical care, I must say the whole thing was so badly organised and everything was done to limit the impact of a strike due to duty of care to patients, those of us striking in critical care were covered by agency staff getting paid big money for covering us completely undermining the impact a walk out would have had
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I’ve been a nurse for 30 years. I work in ED where I’ve been for 25 yrs. I can 100% say the job is not what I came into. I’m not happy with the offer…. more to do with work place conditions than the money particularly (though as a band 6 I am literally not better off than I was 20 years ago) Obviously I would like to be renumerated for my skills, and for undertaking mandatory training in my own time, for all the breaks I don’t get, for all the times we go over and above our actual job to help people…. the mentoring, the support we give to our colleagues, and I include doctors in this…but that’s not ever going to happen. So I actually would settle for better conditions, which includes adequate staffing, protected breaks, protected study time, and realistic expecting of what we should do as nurses, not endlessly pushing more and more work on us … but that’s not going to happen, either…
The real con out of all of this, which the public don’t know or aren’t told by the media is that this isn’t “new” money.
It’s coming out of existing budgets for Health Trusts. It’s basically money being taken away from patient care and equipment.
They did the same to teachers.
Going to have to read the terms but unless it has been removed I’m done. The gov wanted to separate nurses and doctors from everyone else on the pay scales. This means as I’m IT I’ll never see another pay increase, same with the secretaries, switchboard operators, domestics etc
I’d recommend everyone leave their union and boost that to 7-8% raise as you’ll no longer be paying a union subscription
Whyyyyyy? Stand up for yourselves! How can you accept this shitty pay deal? It’s a 5% pay cut ffs!
I’ll add my 2 cents. As a band 2 and I’m only speaking as someone who is at the bottom of the pile it’s a win. I only take home 1400 a month after tax and pension so even a little bit more helps. Luckily I live at home but I couldn’t do the job otherwise. We are trying to get our superiors to reband our job to a band 3. We can’t get any young people- the only ones we seem to get applying now are part time mum’s or people wanting a job to take part time retirement as it were. That’s just the way it goes and sadly only the patients seem to value our work. I’m looking to move out from the nhs as it’s not a job to support a fiance on [or together]. Promotions are thin or thr ground unless you move to the big regional hospitals, and in reality, the pay isn’t much better te higher up you go: because of that the quality of management is dire.
would get paid more in my old job pushing trolleys around a super market carpark than my job in the nhs
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Average wage is about £34,000 for NHS staff, 5% pay rise is barely an extra £100 a month after tax.
“All that for a drop of blood”
Pathetic pay rise, the strikes were basically a wase of time.
“Including nurses”, the Royal College of Nursing voted against it and are planning a national ballot members for further striking (the last was a local ballot).
This seems like a loss for both the unions and the government — the former accepted a meagre pay rise and the latter were forced to backtrack on their refusal to negotiate
Fantastic news that they’ve come to an agreement! I’m sure both sides won’t have achieved all they wanted to but as it ever is in labour disputes.
Edit: why the downvotes? This is good news.
Wow 5%.
Basically a week or two of travel and lunch money.
Unions wasted a lot of time and effort then.
I hope the strikes keep going, because the actual government offer is a joke. It would be a tragedy if NHS staff get bullied into accepting pathetically low wages.
When do the police get 5%?
5% pay rises, whilst most in the private sector get more than that and don’t have to strike once.
How is this a victory
The government may well be pleased with this, but this is bad news. If you have a staff member asking for a bigger raise and you decline them that raise, you should expect that staff member to immediately start hunting for a better role. They haven’t decided the 5% offer is fair; they have decided it isn’t worth their time, and they can’t afford, to keep arguing over it. The NHS has been hemorrhaging staff for years and it’s going to get worse.
Gee it’s like the Tories don’t care about commoners wanting a fair pay rise.
What a load of rubbish why give up for little pay
Pretty pathetic to fold this early and for such a low offer.
I’m a nurse working in critical care, I must say the whole thing was so badly organised and everything was done to limit the impact of a strike due to duty of care to patients, those of us striking in critical care were covered by agency staff getting paid big money for covering us completely undermining the impact a walk out would have had
[deleted]
I’ve been a nurse for 30 years. I work in ED where I’ve been for 25 yrs. I can 100% say the job is not what I came into. I’m not happy with the offer…. more to do with work place conditions than the money particularly (though as a band 6 I am literally not better off than I was 20 years ago) Obviously I would like to be renumerated for my skills, and for undertaking mandatory training in my own time, for all the breaks I don’t get, for all the times we go over and above our actual job to help people…. the mentoring, the support we give to our colleagues, and I include doctors in this…but that’s not ever going to happen. So I actually would settle for better conditions, which includes adequate staffing, protected breaks, protected study time, and realistic expecting of what we should do as nurses, not endlessly pushing more and more work on us … but that’s not going to happen, either…
The real con out of all of this, which the public don’t know or aren’t told by the media is that this isn’t “new” money.
It’s coming out of existing budgets for Health Trusts. It’s basically money being taken away from patient care and equipment.
They did the same to teachers.
Going to have to read the terms but unless it has been removed I’m done. The gov wanted to separate nurses and doctors from everyone else on the pay scales. This means as I’m IT I’ll never see another pay increase, same with the secretaries, switchboard operators, domestics etc
I’d recommend everyone leave their union and boost that to 7-8% raise as you’ll no longer be paying a union subscription
Whyyyyyy? Stand up for yourselves! How can you accept this shitty pay deal? It’s a 5% pay cut ffs!
I’ll add my 2 cents. As a band 2 and I’m only speaking as someone who is at the bottom of the pile it’s a win. I only take home 1400 a month after tax and pension so even a little bit more helps. Luckily I live at home but I couldn’t do the job otherwise. We are trying to get our superiors to reband our job to a band 3. We can’t get any young people- the only ones we seem to get applying now are part time mum’s or people wanting a job to take part time retirement as it were. That’s just the way it goes and sadly only the patients seem to value our work. I’m looking to move out from the nhs as it’s not a job to support a fiance on [or together]. Promotions are thin or thr ground unless you move to the big regional hospitals, and in reality, the pay isn’t much better te higher up you go: because of that the quality of management is dire.
would get paid more in my old job pushing trolleys around a super market carpark than my job in the nhs