Probably one of those things where it’s safer to presume everything you ever type online is being monitored. Not just by governments but private corporations too. Google keeps track of your history, Whatsapp keeps track of your messages, and so on.
Recent court cases have shown that data from every call and text is retained here indiscriminately, spyware wouldn’t be surprising
In other words; tis ya
“The query also questioned whether or not there is an obligation on the State to inform the person being monitored”
The whole point is that they don’t know they are being monitored, or else what’s the point.
The amount of groups who buy and sell data via legal and illegal sources is staggering.
Edit: in my day to day I see a lot of big companies input random personal data into their platforms which they “did not buy” off some random website that brokers harvested data.
While GDPR and various other laws exist, it’s near impossible to enforce and many clients I work with have a very limited grasp on the laws by design.
See nothing say nothing etc. all I can do is tell them to not break our TOS, which includes this kind of antics. All of which is reactive as proactive solutions is near impossible.
Assume your data is shared across many databases. And it’s not just google, no no. You agree to their TOS when you use a Google Service, browse on their browser and use their OS.
It’s all the 3rd parties who site owners allow on their sites, who harvest when you submit your email address, make an order and such.
And those annoying Cookie pop ups where you opt out of most of their “partners”, they don’t actually work.
A magic wand product just doesn’t fix much of it today. Isolation of your actions is likely the best method but is tedious.
That’s my rant. Need a cuppa.
Cunts
Then the answer is yes!
This is one of those questions that would be answered if the answer was no.
The failure to answer means it is being used.
I wouldn’t worry, our government are too incompetent and inefficient to monitor the entire country in secret.
I use “Brave” as a browser which is meant to be more privacy focused and block trackers/cookies and declines those popup requests automatically but have 0 doubt it does nothing to anyone that actively wants to be malicious.
I do have to turn “shields off” to get some websites to work which I normally take as a good sign at least it’s blocking something. Definitely blocks adds if nothing else.
Government thinking now… spyware? What do you wear it with? 😂
I do this kind of stuff for a living. Look at the salaries that the government offer for cyber people… they’re not developing bespoke monitoring software. And if they had – it would long have been noticed by now.
Genuinely they’re not good enough for it.
You heard it here on reddit mostly owned by Tencent controlled by the CCP
Daily reminder to get off chromium based browsers
Gardai have access to everyones internet history through the ISP’s
If you have a smartphone do not complain as you are freely giving away your information and location. how many times do you get a Google map timeline of where you are or when you tap your phone.
GCHQ hovers up everything and then doles it out as it sees fit. Privacy only exists as long as nobody is interested in you.
They will definitely use it for some cases. Not sure it’s widely used. It would he niche to high level cases or national security. As others have said – the Gardaí – they contact the isp and request the data on a case by case basis normally.
Your phone will give em most info…
Good ol’ fashioned panopticon.
Of course they won’t say as it most likely goes against GDPR and many court cases will happen.
But, I’d say there already is spyware tracking us. Like, the gards are all of a sudden thinking of facial recognition cameras.
This is a clickbait headline attached to a much less sensational story. Here’s what the article actually says:
The EU asked Ireland under what circumstances the Irish state was allowed to use spyware to intercept electronic communications—basically, to “wiretap” an Irish citizen’s internet.
Ireland responded that they were allowed to do so in three situations:
1. In a criminal investigation,
2. In a Garda Ombudsman investigation of Garda misconduct, and
3. By the Defence Forces in a “national security” (i.e., anti-terrorism) investigation.
Ireland also said that in any of these cases the authority that wanted to do the cyber-wiretapping had to make a specific application to a judge and that it would be strictly limited to what the judge felt was necessary.
The headline comes from the fact that the State didn’t also tell the EU in this public letter whether there were any of these investigations going on right now, because of course they didn’t. They’re ongoing investigations.
The EU may have a legitimate complaint, buried in the article, that Ireland should have a more specific written definition of “national security.” But nothing in this article supports the headline’s implication that the Gardaì are reading everyone’s texts just in case.
The government already knows everything. I wouldn’t be surprised if I’m on their “far-right” list for criticism of their policies.
I have complete confidence that the Irish government spends more time monitoring property prices in Dalkey than it does monitoring my computer.
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I am 100% certain they monitor. Hello revenue commissioners. How does it feel to be wealth extractor agents of a corrupt regime?
Sure why else did they want you to download the COVID app?
Would a VPN protest you from this?
it makes perfect sense since the government also want to introduce surveillance “hate speech” laws as well as the EU wanting to pass Chat Control 2.0 which lets them spy on every single private communication as well as scanning through your devices before you even send anything.
They are so hell bent on internet censorship.
I mean Ireland’s government does have a history of illegal wiretapping – and this simply is now legal.
Ireland really needs an updated constitution, borrowing from US-style constitutional protections on personal liberties.
For starters: It should be illegal to surveil anyone without a warrant, with an expiry date no more than 3 years, after which the person is informed of the past surveillance.
This is why, Open source software, end to end encryption and accessible/repairable technology is important.
I’d like to think any data the government keeps about me is necessary, but I have no way of knowing.
I do however know that I use more open source software with encryption (Linux, Firefox, Thunderbird, Protonmail, Signal, VLC, Bitwarden, RedReader etc) than not, and this is probably the best step I can take to ensure my data is kept somewhat private. Might be wishful thinking at this stage, but still.
Crap so the government know i like to search for Grannies with Juicy Fannies!!!
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Probably one of those things where it’s safer to presume everything you ever type online is being monitored. Not just by governments but private corporations too. Google keeps track of your history, Whatsapp keeps track of your messages, and so on.
Recent court cases have shown that data from every call and text is retained here indiscriminately, spyware wouldn’t be surprising
In other words; tis ya
“The query also questioned whether or not there is an obligation on the State to inform the person being monitored”
The whole point is that they don’t know they are being monitored, or else what’s the point.
The amount of groups who buy and sell data via legal and illegal sources is staggering.
Edit: in my day to day I see a lot of big companies input random personal data into their platforms which they “did not buy” off some random website that brokers harvested data.
While GDPR and various other laws exist, it’s near impossible to enforce and many clients I work with have a very limited grasp on the laws by design.
See nothing say nothing etc. all I can do is tell them to not break our TOS, which includes this kind of antics. All of which is reactive as proactive solutions is near impossible.
Assume your data is shared across many databases. And it’s not just google, no no. You agree to their TOS when you use a Google Service, browse on their browser and use their OS.
It’s all the 3rd parties who site owners allow on their sites, who harvest when you submit your email address, make an order and such.
And those annoying Cookie pop ups where you opt out of most of their “partners”, they don’t actually work.
A magic wand product just doesn’t fix much of it today. Isolation of your actions is likely the best method but is tedious.
That’s my rant. Need a cuppa.
Cunts
Then the answer is yes!
This is one of those questions that would be answered if the answer was no.
The failure to answer means it is being used.
I wouldn’t worry, our government are too incompetent and inefficient to monitor the entire country in secret.
I use “Brave” as a browser which is meant to be more privacy focused and block trackers/cookies and declines those popup requests automatically but have 0 doubt it does nothing to anyone that actively wants to be malicious.
I do have to turn “shields off” to get some websites to work which I normally take as a good sign at least it’s blocking something. Definitely blocks adds if nothing else.
Government thinking now… spyware? What do you wear it with? 😂
I do this kind of stuff for a living. Look at the salaries that the government offer for cyber people… they’re not developing bespoke monitoring software. And if they had – it would long have been noticed by now.
Genuinely they’re not good enough for it.
You heard it here on reddit mostly owned by Tencent controlled by the CCP
Daily reminder to get off chromium based browsers
Gardai have access to everyones internet history through the ISP’s
If you have a smartphone do not complain as you are freely giving away your information and location. how many times do you get a Google map timeline of where you are or when you tap your phone.
GCHQ hovers up everything and then doles it out as it sees fit. Privacy only exists as long as nobody is interested in you.
They will definitely use it for some cases. Not sure it’s widely used. It would he niche to high level cases or national security. As others have said – the Gardaí – they contact the isp and request the data on a case by case basis normally.
Your phone will give em most info…
Good ol’ fashioned panopticon.
Of course they won’t say as it most likely goes against GDPR and many court cases will happen.
But, I’d say there already is spyware tracking us. Like, the gards are all of a sudden thinking of facial recognition cameras.
This is a clickbait headline attached to a much less sensational story. Here’s what the article actually says:
The EU asked Ireland under what circumstances the Irish state was allowed to use spyware to intercept electronic communications—basically, to “wiretap” an Irish citizen’s internet.
Ireland responded that they were allowed to do so in three situations:
1. In a criminal investigation,
2. In a Garda Ombudsman investigation of Garda misconduct, and
3. By the Defence Forces in a “national security” (i.e., anti-terrorism) investigation.
Ireland also said that in any of these cases the authority that wanted to do the cyber-wiretapping had to make a specific application to a judge and that it would be strictly limited to what the judge felt was necessary.
The headline comes from the fact that the State didn’t also tell the EU in this public letter whether there were any of these investigations going on right now, because of course they didn’t. They’re ongoing investigations.
The EU may have a legitimate complaint, buried in the article, that Ireland should have a more specific written definition of “national security.” But nothing in this article supports the headline’s implication that the Gardaì are reading everyone’s texts just in case.
The government already knows everything. I wouldn’t be surprised if I’m on their “far-right” list for criticism of their policies.
I have complete confidence that the Irish government spends more time monitoring property prices in Dalkey than it does monitoring my computer.
[deleted]
I am 100% certain they monitor. Hello revenue commissioners. How does it feel to be wealth extractor agents of a corrupt regime?
Sure why else did they want you to download the COVID app?
Would a VPN protest you from this?
it makes perfect sense since the government also want to introduce surveillance “hate speech” laws as well as the EU wanting to pass Chat Control 2.0 which lets them spy on every single private communication as well as scanning through your devices before you even send anything.
They are so hell bent on internet censorship.
I mean Ireland’s government does have a history of illegal wiretapping – and this simply is now legal.
Ireland really needs an updated constitution, borrowing from US-style constitutional protections on personal liberties.
For starters: It should be illegal to surveil anyone without a warrant, with an expiry date no more than 3 years, after which the person is informed of the past surveillance.
This is why, Open source software, end to end encryption and accessible/repairable technology is important.
I’d like to think any data the government keeps about me is necessary, but I have no way of knowing.
I do however know that I use more open source software with encryption (Linux, Firefox, Thunderbird, Protonmail, Signal, VLC, Bitwarden, RedReader etc) than not, and this is probably the best step I can take to ensure my data is kept somewhat private. Might be wishful thinking at this stage, but still.
Crap so the government know i like to search for Grannies with Juicy Fannies!!!