“Your enemies didn’t arrive by boat, they arrived by limousine.”
Love this one
And yet those politicians are the ones we’re trusting during said refugee crisis
Not sticking up for landlords but 50 odd percent of your rent goes into government coffers.
Landlord’s didn’t “take away” anything
You can absolutely make a case for the government part of this but landlords are just a symptom of the problem not the cause
So no, not truer words
7% of social housing applications is a fair whack.
In case anyone else wondered who Dywizjon 161 is:
“Group of antifascist immigrants, based mainly in UK, opposing all sorts of totalitarianism. Our struggle is international and encompasses many areas of life.”
Kinda ironic using Vault Tech mascot in this capacity.
More things change, more they stay the same. Eviction of Irish tenants probably somewhere in Munster, maybe Clare in the 1890s?
It’s a nice sentiment, but the make up of the social housing list says otherwise
I missed the affordable housing. 😂😂
But let’s keep resettling people in Ireland despite not building affordable housing ensuring the ghettoisation of low-income immigrant communities to satisfy liberal Ireland’s itch.
If middle class Irish people are sharing rooms in Dublin due to rent, lower income immigrants will be living a rung below this. This is no way for anyone to live in 21st century Ireland.
I feel fucking devastated for any Somali, Nigerian, (and more) child who’ll invariably bear the brunt of these policies. Who’ll end up spending years in temporary or substandard accommodation. This isn’t conjecture, I’m friends with people who went through that.
You can bash landlords and the government all you like but it’s whataboutism that will lead to a society segregated on racial as well as socioeconomic lines. You can see a micro example of this with Brazilians taking on the economic niche of Deliveroo riders.
The left in Ireland (knowing that it is toothless) likes to demand a revolution and fantastically believes it can solve the problem of immigration by simply doing away with the free market. But that’s not going to happen any time soon is it lads?
NIMBYism did as well.
There is not enough housing. Period. That is the core problem.
Both did, as a result of each other.
Don’t forget the developers and the land speculators. These people basically own the politicians and always have done.
If you think that an increasing population doesn’t increase competition for scarce resources and hence the cost of those resources then you’re deluding yourself. But go ahead and enjoy the class warfare pablum you’re being fed.
I never realized fallout and monopoly have the same art style. Is there a name for it?
You do realize that these things connected, right?
Annoying politics aside.
Large letters, underlines and the colour red used for words in need of emphasis; a clear distinction between the hero wearing the “A” on his chest and the bad guy who’s to blame for all our problems; almost comically stereotypical depiction of a rich landlord, literally the monopoly man; and the ANTIFA emblem on the bottom right is the cherry on top.
You can agree with the message, you can disagree with the message, that’s your view. But if it weren’t obvious already, this is propaganda and it’s a hilariously outdated style of propaganda at that. It’s almost weird to see it in this day and age.
5 bazillion upvotes for this shite
All our problems can be reduced to memes
Antifa detected, opinion rejected
And decades of shite policy
But if there wasn’t large amounts of refugees wouldn’t there be more housing available for Irish citizens?
Supply and demand. It’s just that simple.
Yeah I would disagree with that being ‘true words.’
My neighbours owned a house in Dublin and leased it each year to students at a very reasonable price. Really good people who were self employed and bought the house in the early 2000s as an investment for their pension years.
Landlords are taxed on income, not on profit. So expenses and tax combined meant it was costing more to retain the property, so they have the house on the market. So that’s one less option for four future students in having affordable accommodation in Dublin in the coming years.
Before I moved to Australia I lived in Dublin 8 close to Kilmainhaim. My landlords were an elderly couple from the area. Very very kind people. Both worked their whole lives. The man was self employed within different industries along with working as a taxi man in his later years and his wife worked her whole life in office administration. They invested all their savings in this apartment as an investment for their pension. They weren’t at all greedy, charged reasonable rent and never objected to any new developments in the area. Again they weren’t making a huge fortune off it unlike what many would suggest, particularly because they got stuck with horrendous tenants for two years who didn’t pay up 10 months of rent and caused 14 grand worth of damage. The lads who took the lease after I left are now both emigrating. A Brazilian guy who worked in hospitality and an Irish lad who is emigrating to Australia now too.
They have decided to sell up now instead of leasing. So again, another rent option off the market.
Blaming all the problems on landlords in Ireland is just lazy and, lets face it, fuelled by begrudgery too. Driving small landlords out of the market is adding to the problems. They were the ones charging the most reasonable rent and was vital in providing accommodation for low income workers and students.
It was genuinely a good thing going when developments occurred in Dublin and families were buying and leasing places as a means of future income during their pension years for themselves.
Do Gooders like the housing “charities” and their political representatives eliminated 40,000 bedsits in 2013. That is the beginning of this disaster because God forbid someone on low income share a bathroom. Now they’re homeless. It’s always the do gooders who interfere in the market, usually for corrupt purposes.
Yes, politicians increased demand for housing through lax immigration policies and committing to help too many refugees.
Air B&B did too
By try Antifa lol vaultech is ultra capitalista
/r/im14andthisisdeep
The same people that took affordable housing are the same people that flooded your streets with third world barbarians.
Demand outpacing supply. I wonder what led to this.
~70% of this country has a mortgage or property I think? If property prices go up, does that mean everyone has more money or value? Is that why we prevent builders getting visas?
The reason people can’t get homes is because there is a massive housing shortage. You can’t blame landlords for that.
It’s a multi factorial problem.
The stupidity and lack of awareness in your poster will likely upset people whose friends are experiencing the affects of the housing shortage.
We were told by someone in the charitable sector that a house that could have gone to my friend and her family was occupied by Ukrainian refugees. That is exactly what happened.
I will now give something that these right on people never give, some detail.
I do not blame individual refugees and perhaps we should open our borders to the world but to say an influx of people doesn’t affect housing is mad
r/ireland try to understand supply and demand challenge (100% impossible).
No. Stop pretending its simply the landlords/Government
Say in cork for example, a student accom is closing next year and instead of housing students they’ve decided to house refugees.
Refugees add to the problem. If you don’t think so you’re just intentionally not believing that to satisfy some liberal notion of empathy. Empathy is good, but we can’t take so many.
How do you think irish working families who are members of generation should feel when they watch people from safe countries get granted asylum. And in turn get more help from the state than the irish working family will ever get?
I’m fairly sure the average anti-immigration supporter understands its the politicians fault. Reality is once you have children you realise you’d do anything and go anywhere to offer them a better life. At least I would.
Still don’t believe single, unskilled, uneducated immigrants should be encouraged.
Sure I agree politicians have contributed to this hugely but it’s just common sense if you continue to allow tens of thousands of immigrants to come in during a housing crisis it can only make it worse. I don’t think that in the context of our situation that’s unreasonable to say.
That badge at the bottom gave me a cringe overdose
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Vault boy and monopoly man. 2 great games
“Your enemies didn’t arrive by boat, they arrived by limousine.”
Love this one
And yet those politicians are the ones we’re trusting during said refugee crisis
Not sticking up for landlords but 50 odd percent of your rent goes into government coffers.
Landlord’s didn’t “take away” anything
You can absolutely make a case for the government part of this but landlords are just a symptom of the problem not the cause
So no, not truer words
7% of social housing applications is a fair whack.
In case anyone else wondered who Dywizjon 161 is:
“Group of antifascist immigrants, based mainly in UK, opposing all sorts of totalitarianism. Our struggle is international and encompasses many areas of life.”
Kinda ironic using Vault Tech mascot in this capacity.
More things change, more they stay the same. Eviction of Irish tenants probably somewhere in Munster, maybe Clare in the 1890s?
https://preview.redd.it/hteur8kywhya1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=7833753919621dcd9b589f1c39df4fd38a5b10c5
It’s a nice sentiment, but the make up of the social housing list says otherwise
I missed the affordable housing. 😂😂
But let’s keep resettling people in Ireland despite not building affordable housing ensuring the ghettoisation of low-income immigrant communities to satisfy liberal Ireland’s itch.
If middle class Irish people are sharing rooms in Dublin due to rent, lower income immigrants will be living a rung below this. This is no way for anyone to live in 21st century Ireland.
I feel fucking devastated for any Somali, Nigerian, (and more) child who’ll invariably bear the brunt of these policies. Who’ll end up spending years in temporary or substandard accommodation. This isn’t conjecture, I’m friends with people who went through that.
You can bash landlords and the government all you like but it’s whataboutism that will lead to a society segregated on racial as well as socioeconomic lines. You can see a micro example of this with Brazilians taking on the economic niche of Deliveroo riders.
The left in Ireland (knowing that it is toothless) likes to demand a revolution and fantastically believes it can solve the problem of immigration by simply doing away with the free market. But that’s not going to happen any time soon is it lads?
NIMBYism did as well.
There is not enough housing. Period. That is the core problem.
Both did, as a result of each other.
Don’t forget the developers and the land speculators. These people basically own the politicians and always have done.
https://preview.redd.it/k3mmgul4biya1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=0523ccccf8cec5c6eaf85a88a83afff223637c5b
Disagree. Demand and supply determine the market rate. More demand (because of refugees & immigrants) coupled with poor supply mean the price goes up.
https://preview.redd.it/wnkx96rwdiya1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=3d051aedc7f95812511f696af254ba142d803130
If you think that an increasing population doesn’t increase competition for scarce resources and hence the cost of those resources then you’re deluding yourself. But go ahead and enjoy the class warfare pablum you’re being fed.
I never realized fallout and monopoly have the same art style. Is there a name for it?
You do realize that these things connected, right?
Annoying politics aside.
Large letters, underlines and the colour red used for words in need of emphasis; a clear distinction between the hero wearing the “A” on his chest and the bad guy who’s to blame for all our problems; almost comically stereotypical depiction of a rich landlord, literally the monopoly man; and the ANTIFA emblem on the bottom right is the cherry on top.
You can agree with the message, you can disagree with the message, that’s your view. But if it weren’t obvious already, this is propaganda and it’s a hilariously outdated style of propaganda at that. It’s almost weird to see it in this day and age.
5 bazillion upvotes for this shite
All our problems can be reduced to memes
Antifa detected, opinion rejected
And decades of shite policy
But if there wasn’t large amounts of refugees wouldn’t there be more housing available for Irish citizens?
Supply and demand. It’s just that simple.
Yeah I would disagree with that being ‘true words.’
My neighbours owned a house in Dublin and leased it each year to students at a very reasonable price. Really good people who were self employed and bought the house in the early 2000s as an investment for their pension years.
Landlords are taxed on income, not on profit. So expenses and tax combined meant it was costing more to retain the property, so they have the house on the market. So that’s one less option for four future students in having affordable accommodation in Dublin in the coming years.
Before I moved to Australia I lived in Dublin 8 close to Kilmainhaim. My landlords were an elderly couple from the area. Very very kind people. Both worked their whole lives. The man was self employed within different industries along with working as a taxi man in his later years and his wife worked her whole life in office administration. They invested all their savings in this apartment as an investment for their pension. They weren’t at all greedy, charged reasonable rent and never objected to any new developments in the area. Again they weren’t making a huge fortune off it unlike what many would suggest, particularly because they got stuck with horrendous tenants for two years who didn’t pay up 10 months of rent and caused 14 grand worth of damage. The lads who took the lease after I left are now both emigrating. A Brazilian guy who worked in hospitality and an Irish lad who is emigrating to Australia now too.
They have decided to sell up now instead of leasing. So again, another rent option off the market.
Blaming all the problems on landlords in Ireland is just lazy and, lets face it, fuelled by begrudgery too. Driving small landlords out of the market is adding to the problems. They were the ones charging the most reasonable rent and was vital in providing accommodation for low income workers and students.
It was genuinely a good thing going when developments occurred in Dublin and families were buying and leasing places as a means of future income during their pension years for themselves.
Do Gooders like the housing “charities” and their political representatives eliminated 40,000 bedsits in 2013. That is the beginning of this disaster because God forbid someone on low income share a bathroom. Now they’re homeless. It’s always the do gooders who interfere in the market, usually for corrupt purposes.
Yes, politicians increased demand for housing through lax immigration policies and committing to help too many refugees.
Air B&B did too
By try Antifa lol vaultech is ultra capitalista
/r/im14andthisisdeep
The same people that took affordable housing are the same people that flooded your streets with third world barbarians.
Demand outpacing supply. I wonder what led to this.
~70% of this country has a mortgage or property I think? If property prices go up, does that mean everyone has more money or value? Is that why we prevent builders getting visas?
The reason people can’t get homes is because there is a massive housing shortage. You can’t blame landlords for that.
It’s a multi factorial problem.
The stupidity and lack of awareness in your poster will likely upset people whose friends are experiencing the affects of the housing shortage.
We were told by someone in the charitable sector that a house that could have gone to my friend and her family was occupied by Ukrainian refugees. That is exactly what happened.
I will now give something that these right on people never give, some detail.
I do not blame individual refugees and perhaps we should open our borders to the world but to say an influx of people doesn’t affect housing is mad
r/ireland try to understand supply and demand challenge (100% impossible).
No. Stop pretending its simply the landlords/Government
Say in cork for example, a student accom is closing next year and instead of housing students they’ve decided to house refugees.
Refugees add to the problem. If you don’t think so you’re just intentionally not believing that to satisfy some liberal notion of empathy. Empathy is good, but we can’t take so many.
How do you think irish working families who are members of generation should feel when they watch people from safe countries get granted asylum. And in turn get more help from the state than the irish working family will ever get?
I’m fairly sure the average anti-immigration supporter understands its the politicians fault. Reality is once you have children you realise you’d do anything and go anywhere to offer them a better life. At least I would.
Still don’t believe single, unskilled, uneducated immigrants should be encouraged.
Sure I agree politicians have contributed to this hugely but it’s just common sense if you continue to allow tens of thousands of immigrants to come in during a housing crisis it can only make it worse. I don’t think that in the context of our situation that’s unreasonable to say.
That badge at the bottom gave me a cringe overdose