What a tragic loss and the poor kids who have lost their dad
This is tragic. I know his sister who commented in the article and I feel for her and her family.
If a grown man could fall and become so injured he has died then surely it’s not safe for children or am I missing something? I’m sure an investigation will reveal that but it stinks me as very odd
He sounded like a top bloke. So sad.
These are not real caves? I just googled the place and it looked like an artificial indoor rock-wall climbing sort of setup. If they’re artificial, I’d imagine a huge lawsuit is in order for something like this to happen.
That is shocking. It sounds like blood flow was restricted, and that led to necrosis. This could have been avoided with a faster response. Shocking, really.
There’s a picture of a cave at this centre on this page if you scroll through the gallery.
Sounds like he was just a bit too big for the cave and got wedged at a very unfortunate angle, making rescue much more complex than it needed to be. A tragic accident and a reminder how easily even safe activities can have tragic consequences at times.
This is horrific. I just can’t fathom how he was stuck for 4 hours, how terrifying that must have been. I wonder if there were warning signs that people over certain heights or weights shouldn’t enter the caves?
I feel awful for the family and sorry for the staff and at the adventure centre, my question now is how it took for hours to get emergency services on the scene to rescue a bloke from an artificial tube, this could very easily have been avoided with a faster response.
I hope his poor niece gets counselling. It was her birthday and kids take on a lot of guilt over things like that.
Know one of the people involved in this incident and it is very sad.
These incidents are very rare in the UK, because we have very strict regulations.
But it is a reminder that we have the regulations for a good reason, and that they’re never a substitution for a comprehensive risk management plan.
Am sure we will learn more in due course, but for now my heart really goes out to family and friends. The chap was trying to introduce adventure to his niece and that’s admirable.
Poor guy, what a terrible way to die. It’s so shocking to think that something designed for kids and in a place where he should have been surrounded by people working there that this even happened. I read the article and he sounded like a great person. What a loss to the world.
Theirs a thing like this at center parks in the lake district that sounds really similar. My family still joke about how red i was when i came out of it as it being indoors and super cramped it was like an oven.
i was the only one who could take my son and daughter in and i was sore bruised and absolutely dripping wet when i got out, i went in thinking this will be ok but being a fully grown man, it was quite a lot trickier getting through some of the narrower bits where as my kids just flew through it.
I’m a local to Kong keswick. It’s bewildering how he has got stuck in this artificial cave experience. Although it appears he suffered from a hypermobility disorder which lead to some kind of dislocation that caused the ES to struggle to get him out.
Nothing short of a tragedy. He sounded so wonderful. RIP.
Aren’t the Kong caves for kids?
Without seeming callous, should he have been in there?
The idea of caving terrifies me. Would never do it.
A lot depends on what happened.
Been to a couple
Was there emergency access (it sounds like it was poor to zero), what was their centres procedure if someone got stuck, what procedures and training did staff have for dealing with emergency.
Then their is what happened to cause him to be stuck.
I will hold off judgement until their is more info. But you can bet HSE is going through the place asking really hard questions of staff, management, owners, designers.
What a tragedy. Guy was a bloody genius too. RIP Sir.
This is just so so sad. Just goes to show how fast things can change.
If he own weight was crushing his muscles for several hours, then the muscles can break down and release toxins which kill off organs.
So unbelievably sad.
I just read an article that said he was trying to turn around in a narrow section and got wedged/stuck in an awkward angle. Assuming positional asphyxiation occurred from there.
Reminds me of the tragic nutty putty death. Except, I guess no one imagines you could find yourself in that situation from exploring an indoor cave. How awful.
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What a tragic loss and the poor kids who have lost their dad
This is tragic. I know his sister who commented in the article and I feel for her and her family.
If a grown man could fall and become so injured he has died then surely it’s not safe for children or am I missing something? I’m sure an investigation will reveal that but it stinks me as very odd
He sounded like a top bloke. So sad.
These are not real caves? I just googled the place and it looked like an artificial indoor rock-wall climbing sort of setup. If they’re artificial, I’d imagine a huge lawsuit is in order for something like this to happen.
That is shocking. It sounds like blood flow was restricted, and that led to necrosis. This could have been avoided with a faster response. Shocking, really.
There’s a picture of a cave at this centre on this page if you scroll through the gallery.
Looks a really tight fit if you’re an adult.
https://www.kongadventure.com/family-activity-days/
Sounds like he was just a bit too big for the cave and got wedged at a very unfortunate angle, making rescue much more complex than it needed to be. A tragic accident and a reminder how easily even safe activities can have tragic consequences at times.
This is horrific. I just can’t fathom how he was stuck for 4 hours, how terrifying that must have been. I wonder if there were warning signs that people over certain heights or weights shouldn’t enter the caves?
I feel awful for the family and sorry for the staff and at the adventure centre, my question now is how it took for hours to get emergency services on the scene to rescue a bloke from an artificial tube, this could very easily have been avoided with a faster response.
I hope his poor niece gets counselling. It was her birthday and kids take on a lot of guilt over things like that.
Know one of the people involved in this incident and it is very sad.
These incidents are very rare in the UK, because we have very strict regulations.
But it is a reminder that we have the regulations for a good reason, and that they’re never a substitution for a comprehensive risk management plan.
Am sure we will learn more in due course, but for now my heart really goes out to family and friends. The chap was trying to introduce adventure to his niece and that’s admirable.
Poor guy, what a terrible way to die. It’s so shocking to think that something designed for kids and in a place where he should have been surrounded by people working there that this even happened. I read the article and he sounded like a great person. What a loss to the world.
Theirs a thing like this at center parks in the lake district that sounds really similar. My family still joke about how red i was when i came out of it as it being indoors and super cramped it was like an oven.
i was the only one who could take my son and daughter in and i was sore bruised and absolutely dripping wet when i got out, i went in thinking this will be ok but being a fully grown man, it was quite a lot trickier getting through some of the narrower bits where as my kids just flew through it.
I’m a local to Kong keswick. It’s bewildering how he has got stuck in this artificial cave experience. Although it appears he suffered from a hypermobility disorder which lead to some kind of dislocation that caused the ES to struggle to get him out.
Nothing short of a tragedy. He sounded so wonderful. RIP.
Aren’t the Kong caves for kids?
Without seeming callous, should he have been in there?
The idea of caving terrifies me. Would never do it.
A lot depends on what happened.
Been to a couple
Was there emergency access (it sounds like it was poor to zero), what was their centres procedure if someone got stuck, what procedures and training did staff have for dealing with emergency.
Then their is what happened to cause him to be stuck.
I will hold off judgement until their is more info. But you can bet HSE is going through the place asking really hard questions of staff, management, owners, designers.
What a tragedy. Guy was a bloody genius too. RIP Sir.
This is just so so sad. Just goes to show how fast things can change.
https://www.jems.com/patient-care/trauma/managing-the-toxic-chemical-release-that-occurs-during-a-crush-injury/
If he own weight was crushing his muscles for several hours, then the muscles can break down and release toxins which kill off organs.
So unbelievably sad.
I just read an article that said he was trying to turn around in a narrow section and got wedged/stuck in an awkward angle. Assuming positional asphyxiation occurred from there.
Reminds me of the tragic nutty putty death. Except, I guess no one imagines you could find yourself in that situation from exploring an indoor cave. How awful.