the countryside doesn’t care what ethnicity you are ffs.
>Nigerian-born Enoch Adeyemi, co-founder of Black Scottish Adventurers, recently shared his experiences of hiking with a large group of Black men, revealing they are constantly subject to spurious complaints about “littering”, condescension and demands to stop playing music. “Why should I turn off my music? Just because white Scottish people enjoy nature one way, that doesn’t mean Black people have to enjoy it exactly the same way,” he told the Daily Mail.
The guy acts like a cunt, and then claims everyone is racist lol
“Why should I turn off my music? Just because white Scottish people enjoy nature one way, that doesn’t mean Black people have to enjoy it exactly the same way,” what the fuck does this even mean lmao, let’s be honest if you’re affecting other people’s enjoyment of an area, that’s on you, put some headphones in. Also I didn’t realise all black people and all white people are homogenous groups, I guarantee there’s people from each that do either way.
>Hobbies like hill walking and wild swimming are too often seen as the preserve of white people. But a new generation is challenging the prejudices that stop diverse communities enjoying the great outdoors.
What prejudices? Fuck me, this is absurd. How do you turn hiking into some identity politics race issue?
> “Having signs pointing towards Mecca might seem like a small thing, but it’s a really thoughtful idea,” Sidra tells The Lead. “It makes me feel like the National Park is welcoming us with open arms. Something as simple as this can make us feel very welcomed by the outdoor community.
How do they cope everywhere else, where there are no signs pointing towards Mecca?
Better yet, buy and learn how to use a compass. Or make an app.
And don’t even start about the guy who feels entitled to litter and play music out loud – gets called in it – and calls that ‘racism’.
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Did a tonne of hiking last few years. Snowdonia, Lake District, Cotswolds, Devon, Cornwall
Not once did I think about the race of other hikers
It’s free too btw. I dunno who you’re taking it back from, but if someone in the car park is holding a “no blacks” sign I’d suggest you call the police and continue your hike. No one’s stopping you
Congratulations on going for a walk I guess lmao
Taking it back from whom? These POC have an odd way of viewing the world.
Taking it back from whom exactly?
Nothing in there supports the claim of
> real problem of minority exclusion from the countryside.
They aren’t excluded by anyone and especially not nature, turn up walk and go home. Perhaps they choose not to go.
The guy who plays music and refuses to turn it off. The whole point of going into the country is to get away, use headphones ffs. I want to listen to other people’s music in the country as much as I do on the bus/train which is never. Race has nothing to do with being a complete dickhead.
As a brown person who used to go rambling a lot until recently, I find this all kinds of ridiculous. It’s ‘nature’ ( in air quotes as its actually ridiculously cultivated land). Race and religion doesn’t come into it. Also, fuck you if you’re playing music on speakers on a trail. Here I am trying to enjoy the tranquility of birds singing and leaves rustling gently and you had to come and ruin it. And how about you don’t stick your religious shit everywhere?
If he’d made the point about young black people who live in cities having less experience/access to the countryside due to finances and distances involved and suggested things like school trips or clubs to give more people the opportunity he’d be onto a winner, but no he made it out to be a racist attack on black people due to loud music disturbing peoples enjoyment and a lack of signs to a place thousands of miles away.
Divisive nonsense from race grifters. The countryside is only less accessible to non whites by virtue of those groups tending to live in more urban areas. As with just about every other ‘racial’ issue in this country this is more down to socio economics. This appears to be a manufactured problem and I would rather see money and effort put into conservation and improving access/awareness for all rather than specific groups.
The signs pointing to mecca appears to be an egregious attempt to provoke outrage so they can claim racism. Take nothing but photos, leave nothing but footprints.
This article is divisive nonsense.
Stupid white people and their…
<shuffles deck>
<picks card>
…nature!
Taking back? When did they have it before? There has never been anything stopping anyone in this country going for a walk. I can’t remember the last time a nice meadow stopped me to check I was white, or I was challenged on my family lineage by a hill.
Group thinking really is where all the poor decisions are made
Some very valid points made in this article. Often activities can be considered to be typically for certain races. Organisations which make activities accessible for people who don’t typically participate are important for breaking down these stereotypes. We want black people swimming and hiking just like we want to encourage girls and women to play grassroots football.
These things are critical to help people integrate into our society.
Not too sure why the article mentions littering and playing music out loud come from. I find it hard to believe black or Muslim hikers feel like this is acceptable. Then again, that very brief part of the article has encouraged more conversation than the rest of the article combined. So it’s probably done its job.
More and more all I think is that these diversity and inclusion schemes and people don’t actually care for diversity…they just want more for themselves. They’re only fighting so that they can be on top and they see white men as currently on that peak and they want it instead
I’m autistic and have sensory issues which means I process images and sounds differently to most people. The noises of modern life, traffic, music, etc, are actually very stressful for me so I get out to the countryside often to relax and disconnect from it all. It’s actually vital for my mental health as the sounds of nature are relaxing and not stressful.
If it’s racist for somebody to ask you to turn your music down, then it’s ableist for you to force it on me. Use fucking headphones.
Why should I listen to your music? Just because black Scottish people enjoy nature one way, that doesn’t mean disabled people have to enjoy it exactly the same way.
Oh fuck off, not even going to be drawn into this article. There is no such thing as white, black or brown hikers. There are just hikers. Are there White, Black and Brown super market shoppers? Dog walkers? Pizza eaters? Go fuck yourself and stop trying to:
1. Take credit for absolutely normal behaviour
2. Implicitly suggest that certain activities are riddled with hidden racism.
This idpol is just an attempt to have people fight each other over nothing.
Oh God it reminds me of this: /r/unitedkingdom/comments/tatj1t/meet_the_queer_hikers_proving_the_great_outdoors/
> Meet the queer hikers proving the great outdoors isn’t just for cis, straight folk
So hiking is racist *and* homophobic 🙄
strangely, ive just been hiking in morocco and they didn’t seem to need any signs pointing to mecca.
I must keep missing all the “No blacks allowed” signs whenever I venture outside of my town. I don’t understand how the compulsion to create noise pollution on hiking trails is somehow inherent to a particular racial or ethnic group, either.
This sort of drivel is exactly how the ‘woke’ sound to a lot of people.
This is ridiculous baiting, they give platform to a clearly unreasonable man to provoke outrage and enjoy the attention. We should stop promoting and highlighting absurd people in the media as a responsibility.
I’m really tired of having to deal with all this religious BS.
The entire country’s population secularises and becomes less religion, but Islam only gets stronger. Someone please tell me how this is gonna end anywhere good? Signs dotted across the country pointing to Mecca? What a load of asinine, bronze age nonsense.
What do they mean by “taking back”? It was never theirs to begin with.
“Hobbies like hill walking and wild swimming are too often seen as the preserve of white people”
… What in the ever loving fuck
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what a load of old shit.
the countryside doesn’t care what ethnicity you are ffs.
>Nigerian-born Enoch Adeyemi, co-founder of Black Scottish Adventurers, recently shared his experiences of hiking with a large group of Black men, revealing they are constantly subject to spurious complaints about “littering”, condescension and demands to stop playing music. “Why should I turn off my music? Just because white Scottish people enjoy nature one way, that doesn’t mean Black people have to enjoy it exactly the same way,” he told the Daily Mail.
The guy acts like a cunt, and then claims everyone is racist lol
“Why should I turn off my music? Just because white Scottish people enjoy nature one way, that doesn’t mean Black people have to enjoy it exactly the same way,” what the fuck does this even mean lmao, let’s be honest if you’re affecting other people’s enjoyment of an area, that’s on you, put some headphones in. Also I didn’t realise all black people and all white people are homogenous groups, I guarantee there’s people from each that do either way.
>Hobbies like hill walking and wild swimming are too often seen as the preserve of white people. But a new generation is challenging the prejudices that stop diverse communities enjoying the great outdoors.
What prejudices? Fuck me, this is absurd. How do you turn hiking into some identity politics race issue?
> “Having signs pointing towards Mecca might seem like a small thing, but it’s a really thoughtful idea,” Sidra tells The Lead. “It makes me feel like the National Park is welcoming us with open arms. Something as simple as this can make us feel very welcomed by the outdoor community.
How do they cope everywhere else, where there are no signs pointing towards Mecca?
Better yet, buy and learn how to use a compass. Or make an app.
And don’t even start about the guy who feels entitled to litter and play music out loud – gets called in it – and calls that ‘racism’.
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Did a tonne of hiking last few years. Snowdonia, Lake District, Cotswolds, Devon, Cornwall
Not once did I think about the race of other hikers
It’s free too btw. I dunno who you’re taking it back from, but if someone in the car park is holding a “no blacks” sign I’d suggest you call the police and continue your hike. No one’s stopping you
Congratulations on going for a walk I guess lmao
Taking it back from whom? These POC have an odd way of viewing the world.
Taking it back from whom exactly?
Nothing in there supports the claim of
> real problem of minority exclusion from the countryside.
They aren’t excluded by anyone and especially not nature, turn up walk and go home. Perhaps they choose not to go.
The guy who plays music and refuses to turn it off. The whole point of going into the country is to get away, use headphones ffs. I want to listen to other people’s music in the country as much as I do on the bus/train which is never. Race has nothing to do with being a complete dickhead.
As a brown person who used to go rambling a lot until recently, I find this all kinds of ridiculous. It’s ‘nature’ ( in air quotes as its actually ridiculously cultivated land). Race and religion doesn’t come into it. Also, fuck you if you’re playing music on speakers on a trail. Here I am trying to enjoy the tranquility of birds singing and leaves rustling gently and you had to come and ruin it. And how about you don’t stick your religious shit everywhere?
If he’d made the point about young black people who live in cities having less experience/access to the countryside due to finances and distances involved and suggested things like school trips or clubs to give more people the opportunity he’d be onto a winner, but no he made it out to be a racist attack on black people due to loud music disturbing peoples enjoyment and a lack of signs to a place thousands of miles away.
Divisive nonsense from race grifters. The countryside is only less accessible to non whites by virtue of those groups tending to live in more urban areas. As with just about every other ‘racial’ issue in this country this is more down to socio economics. This appears to be a manufactured problem and I would rather see money and effort put into conservation and improving access/awareness for all rather than specific groups.
The signs pointing to mecca appears to be an egregious attempt to provoke outrage so they can claim racism. Take nothing but photos, leave nothing but footprints.
This article is divisive nonsense.
Stupid white people and their…
<shuffles deck>
<picks card>
…nature!
Taking back? When did they have it before? There has never been anything stopping anyone in this country going for a walk. I can’t remember the last time a nice meadow stopped me to check I was white, or I was challenged on my family lineage by a hill.
Group thinking really is where all the poor decisions are made
Some very valid points made in this article. Often activities can be considered to be typically for certain races. Organisations which make activities accessible for people who don’t typically participate are important for breaking down these stereotypes. We want black people swimming and hiking just like we want to encourage girls and women to play grassroots football.
These things are critical to help people integrate into our society.
Not too sure why the article mentions littering and playing music out loud come from. I find it hard to believe black or Muslim hikers feel like this is acceptable. Then again, that very brief part of the article has encouraged more conversation than the rest of the article combined. So it’s probably done its job.
More and more all I think is that these diversity and inclusion schemes and people don’t actually care for diversity…they just want more for themselves. They’re only fighting so that they can be on top and they see white men as currently on that peak and they want it instead
I’m autistic and have sensory issues which means I process images and sounds differently to most people. The noises of modern life, traffic, music, etc, are actually very stressful for me so I get out to the countryside often to relax and disconnect from it all. It’s actually vital for my mental health as the sounds of nature are relaxing and not stressful.
If it’s racist for somebody to ask you to turn your music down, then it’s ableist for you to force it on me. Use fucking headphones.
Why should I listen to your music? Just because black Scottish people enjoy nature one way, that doesn’t mean disabled people have to enjoy it exactly the same way.
Oh fuck off, not even going to be drawn into this article. There is no such thing as white, black or brown hikers. There are just hikers. Are there White, Black and Brown super market shoppers? Dog walkers? Pizza eaters? Go fuck yourself and stop trying to:
1. Take credit for absolutely normal behaviour
2. Implicitly suggest that certain activities are riddled with hidden racism.
This idpol is just an attempt to have people fight each other over nothing.
Oh God it reminds me of this: /r/unitedkingdom/comments/tatj1t/meet_the_queer_hikers_proving_the_great_outdoors/
> Meet the queer hikers proving the great outdoors isn’t just for cis, straight folk
So hiking is racist *and* homophobic 🙄
strangely, ive just been hiking in morocco and they didn’t seem to need any signs pointing to mecca.
I must keep missing all the “No blacks allowed” signs whenever I venture outside of my town. I don’t understand how the compulsion to create noise pollution on hiking trails is somehow inherent to a particular racial or ethnic group, either.
This sort of drivel is exactly how the ‘woke’ sound to a lot of people.
This is ridiculous baiting, they give platform to a clearly unreasonable man to provoke outrage and enjoy the attention. We should stop promoting and highlighting absurd people in the media as a responsibility.
I’m really tired of having to deal with all this religious BS.
The entire country’s population secularises and becomes less religion, but Islam only gets stronger. Someone please tell me how this is gonna end anywhere good? Signs dotted across the country pointing to Mecca? What a load of asinine, bronze age nonsense.
What do they mean by “taking back”? It was never theirs to begin with.
“Hobbies like hill walking and wild swimming are too often seen as the preserve of white people”
… What in the ever loving fuck