But at the very least you can find a place to rent
Nope, we’ve had thousands apply for a room in a shared house and would be charging double for that place
I thought Berlin had a housing referendum which solved everything?
“Landlords can pass on modernisation costs to a tenant, increasing rent by 8 per cent annually. “
The big difference to Dublin is this in the article:
“Unusually for residents of a capital city, Berliners have incomes lower than the national average.”
If Berlin had Dublin salaries (relative to country) it would be far worse than Dublin.
There was always this grá luring me to Berlin with it’s cheaper rent but when I looked at the wages I soon snapped out of it. It was nowhere near this price when I was looking 5 years ago.
I imagine remote workers were using it to their advantage, but it has created price gouging now I imagine.
Most places worth living in right now have a housing crisis.
Ireland’s is just worse than most of those cases.
I mean, a friend of mine emigrated to Berlin late last year and found a place (nothing fancy, one bed apartment) relatively quickly and can afford it living on his own.
The average Shinner “It’s all FFGs fault”
I was looking for a place in Dublin just before COVID. Bang average 2 bed to share outside the city and there was more than 200 queuing to view it in an open viewing. That’s when things weren’t “bad”.
Dublin now is way worse, rental market is a blood bath.
It is honestly a bit pathetic that the Irish Times publish dross like this in an attempt to dissuade Irish people from emigrating.
I don’t know anyone who emigrated (aside from those who went working on farms in Australia) who are worse off then they were back in Ireland.
Last room rented out in the house I’m in had 1300 applications. Box room with a double bed in artane.
I don’t understand.. r/Ireland told me that we need rent caps like Berlin and that would solve all our problems. And a referendum to kick out large landlords.
Are we saying that making everything as hard as possible for those bringing supply to the rental market… ISN’T going to increase supply?!
Berlin is complicated by the fact that everyone wants to live in one of three hip districts and there’s a bit of snobbery to anyone who lives outside the “ringbahn” (circular metro line that runs around the outer city limit).
When you look further afield, there are a lot more places. Might take you half an hour to get into the city, but Berlin has good public transport (especially night transport) – hell, you can get to central Berlin in 30/40 mins from Potsdam if you time it right, and that’s about 30 miles from the center.
Also, Berlin in building a lot more apartments (esepecially for single/couple use) and has streamlined the application process.
Dubliners, unfortunately, don’t have these options.
The whole of Ireland is ducked for housing tho not just the capital
In Berlin you also have a thriving cultural scene, good public transport, a solid public health system. Berlin is 19 places above Dublin in terms of quality of life in EU cities.
200? Then they are about 10% of Dublin.
Ban fkn Airbnb. End of.
As someone that lives in Berlin, it is nowhere near as bad as Dublin.
I can’t emphasise enough how the public transport in Berlin is FANTASTIC with pretty much everything connected and with much cheaper prices as well. I am paying €50 a month and I can use that to take unlimited trains, buses, trams, undergrounds 24 hours a day, 7 days a week and I can also use that ticket to take a train anywhere in Germany that I want. The quality of public transport is so underrated when it comes to your quality of life and that aspect of my life has improved so much in Berlin.
It is easier to be seen by a doctor and there’s no cost up front. Even if you need medication, depending on the medication you pay between five and ten euro, no more no less.
There’s an actual atmosphere of culture and history in the city, unlike Dublin which has been stripped of most of that in favor of big multinational corporations, hotels, Airbnbs, Wetherspoons etc. There’s cafes and bars and clubs and supermarkets and shops that are open 24 hours a day that cater to such a vast and diverse amount of people.
I pay more in tax but my god do you get what you pay for, unlike here. Public services are well funded, they do have some issues in terms of management but again, nowhere near like we have in Ireland. The social safety nets in Germany are also much better for those that need it and as someone that believes in using our taxes to support those that actually need it in our society, that’s another reason why I have no problem paying more in taxes.
Obviously I’m saying all this as an immigrant to the country so people that are native to Berlin may and probably do have a different view but as someone that has experience with both, Dublin is way, way worse than Berlin and the only comparison between the two is that housing is getting more expensive, but nothing like Dublin, that’s where the comparison stops.
I advertised a room in my shared house this summer, I had over 400 emails asking for viewings.
The house is absolutely nothing special 🤣
When I was looking for somewhere to rent, I was told by multiple people they had over over 200 emails from Daft applications.
That an article made to create an impression that Irish housing crisis is exaggerated by renters in Ireland.
What’s the proportion of the people there who has a full time job but cannot afford to rent their own place?
How many people in their 30s and over with full time job live with roommates?
At what age people in Berlin move out of their homes to live by themselves?
How many universities exists in Berlin and how many of them have student accommodation built in?
Even if all these data put Berlin under a negative light, that problem only exists in Berlin. People can move out of Berlin and move to a different city with as much opportunity and infrastructure as Berlin. Meanwhile here the housing crisis is not just in Berlin but exists everywhere in the republic, not so much in the north. That tells me that the government here is a corrupt, incompetent and self serving bastards.
The term rent in Ireland means living with strangers in Ireland, else where in the world, unless you’re a part time worker or a student renting means having your own place. Even in most expensive cities in the world, people will find at least a kip of place to rent for themselves.
Rent caps worked well, good thing we learned from there mistakes & didn’t fire ahead and introduce them here too
/s
Berlin has far more things to do and see than Dublin, just like every other city anywhere near as expensive as Dublin…
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But at the very least you can find a place to rent
Nope, we’ve had thousands apply for a room in a shared house and would be charging double for that place
I thought Berlin had a housing referendum which solved everything?
“Landlords can pass on modernisation costs to a tenant, increasing rent by 8 per cent annually. “
The big difference to Dublin is this in the article:
“Unusually for residents of a capital city, Berliners have incomes lower than the national average.”
If Berlin had Dublin salaries (relative to country) it would be far worse than Dublin.
There was always this grá luring me to Berlin with it’s cheaper rent but when I looked at the wages I soon snapped out of it. It was nowhere near this price when I was looking 5 years ago.
I imagine remote workers were using it to their advantage, but it has created price gouging now I imagine.
Most places worth living in right now have a housing crisis.
Ireland’s is just worse than most of those cases.
I mean, a friend of mine emigrated to Berlin late last year and found a place (nothing fancy, one bed apartment) relatively quickly and can afford it living on his own.
The average Shinner “It’s all FFGs fault”
I was looking for a place in Dublin just before COVID. Bang average 2 bed to share outside the city and there was more than 200 queuing to view it in an open viewing. That’s when things weren’t “bad”.
Dublin now is way worse, rental market is a blood bath.
It is honestly a bit pathetic that the Irish Times publish dross like this in an attempt to dissuade Irish people from emigrating.
I don’t know anyone who emigrated (aside from those who went working on farms in Australia) who are worse off then they were back in Ireland.
Last room rented out in the house I’m in had 1300 applications. Box room with a double bed in artane.
I don’t understand.. r/Ireland told me that we need rent caps like Berlin and that would solve all our problems. And a referendum to kick out large landlords.
Are we saying that making everything as hard as possible for those bringing supply to the rental market… ISN’T going to increase supply?!
Berlin is complicated by the fact that everyone wants to live in one of three hip districts and there’s a bit of snobbery to anyone who lives outside the “ringbahn” (circular metro line that runs around the outer city limit).
When you look further afield, there are a lot more places. Might take you half an hour to get into the city, but Berlin has good public transport (especially night transport) – hell, you can get to central Berlin in 30/40 mins from Potsdam if you time it right, and that’s about 30 miles from the center.
Also, Berlin in building a lot more apartments (esepecially for single/couple use) and has streamlined the application process.
Dubliners, unfortunately, don’t have these options.
The whole of Ireland is ducked for housing tho not just the capital
In Berlin you also have a thriving cultural scene, good public transport, a solid public health system. Berlin is 19 places above Dublin in terms of quality of life in EU cities.
200? Then they are about 10% of Dublin.
Ban fkn Airbnb. End of.
As someone that lives in Berlin, it is nowhere near as bad as Dublin.
I can’t emphasise enough how the public transport in Berlin is FANTASTIC with pretty much everything connected and with much cheaper prices as well. I am paying €50 a month and I can use that to take unlimited trains, buses, trams, undergrounds 24 hours a day, 7 days a week and I can also use that ticket to take a train anywhere in Germany that I want. The quality of public transport is so underrated when it comes to your quality of life and that aspect of my life has improved so much in Berlin.
It is easier to be seen by a doctor and there’s no cost up front. Even if you need medication, depending on the medication you pay between five and ten euro, no more no less.
There’s an actual atmosphere of culture and history in the city, unlike Dublin which has been stripped of most of that in favor of big multinational corporations, hotels, Airbnbs, Wetherspoons etc. There’s cafes and bars and clubs and supermarkets and shops that are open 24 hours a day that cater to such a vast and diverse amount of people.
I pay more in tax but my god do you get what you pay for, unlike here. Public services are well funded, they do have some issues in terms of management but again, nowhere near like we have in Ireland. The social safety nets in Germany are also much better for those that need it and as someone that believes in using our taxes to support those that actually need it in our society, that’s another reason why I have no problem paying more in taxes.
When it comes to housing, yes there are issues when it comes to the private market, because obviously the only goal of the private market is profit, but with room rents being between 300-700 maybe and I know people with full apartments in the city for as low as 900 and up to maybe 1400, it’s not comparable to the absolute gouging that happens in Dublin where the average rent is about €2,300: (https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41069876.html#:~:text=Weather-,Average%20rents%20top%20%E2%82%AC2%2C300%20in%20Dublin%20and%20%E2%82%AC1%2C700,to%20chronic%20shortage%20of%20properties&text=Rents%20across%20the%20country%20continue,same%20period%20a%20year%20ago.) There are also public housing authorities around the City that if people do really need them, they can access them as well and they actually house people as they have the properties to do so because the housing policy there is much better than the heavily private market focused approach that we have in Ireland.
Obviously I’m saying all this as an immigrant to the country so people that are native to Berlin may and probably do have a different view but as someone that has experience with both, Dublin is way, way worse than Berlin and the only comparison between the two is that housing is getting more expensive, but nothing like Dublin, that’s where the comparison stops.
I advertised a room in my shared house this summer, I had over 400 emails asking for viewings.
The house is absolutely nothing special 🤣
When I was looking for somewhere to rent, I was told by multiple people they had over over 200 emails from Daft applications.
That an article made to create an impression that Irish housing crisis is exaggerated by renters in Ireland.
What’s the proportion of the people there who has a full time job but cannot afford to rent their own place?
How many people in their 30s and over with full time job live with roommates?
At what age people in Berlin move out of their homes to live by themselves?
How many universities exists in Berlin and how many of them have student accommodation built in?
Even if all these data put Berlin under a negative light, that problem only exists in Berlin. People can move out of Berlin and move to a different city with as much opportunity and infrastructure as Berlin. Meanwhile here the housing crisis is not just in Berlin but exists everywhere in the republic, not so much in the north. That tells me that the government here is a corrupt, incompetent and self serving bastards.
The term rent in Ireland means living with strangers in Ireland, else where in the world, unless you’re a part time worker or a student renting means having your own place. Even in most expensive cities in the world, people will find at least a kip of place to rent for themselves.
Rent caps worked well, good thing we learned from there mistakes & didn’t fire ahead and introduce them here too
/s
Berlin has far more things to do and see than Dublin, just like every other city anywhere near as expensive as Dublin…