Let’s say that Trump gets elected in the US and starts pressuring Europe for various deals. If Europe has already pissed off China, Europe will be in a very bad position of power.
We really need better leaders and less sellouts.
Oh, for fuck’s sake, why are Europe’s leaders so cowardly?
Merkel was very keen to get this lopsided deal through which would have allowed Chinese ownership of EU media, but not vice versa
Money is money, regardless the blood on it. German is emotionally tied up with Russian and CCP and communism ideology , for some reason.
It is a tough balancing act. Security on one hand and lots of money from Beijing on the other.
Hamburg Connection
Scholz is just a male clone of Merkel and the SPD of today is just a red painted CDU from 2005-2021.
Guess the Greens are now the only party left that at least try doing politics for the citizens instead of their personal friends.
Here we are, again, Olaf proving to be leadership genius and German Reddit folk will run frantically to defend this moronic tool…
kind of a yikes from me
Keep in mind we are talking about the selling of a 24,9% share of a single terminal out of several dozens.
Germany realized that Russia is a bad partner, so now they are shaking deals with China instead. Clever /s
well, Scholz is a financial thief/trickster who just cannot remember anything when asked about specific dealings in Hamburg. Also he is one of the biggest Landowners in Hamburg And he made his Senate Buddys pretty rich bach in the day.
So all in all this makes sense and is completely expected, i guess somewhere some chinese money appeared and he had to step in to secure it for him and his friends and probably to stop someone from remembering stuff…
Welp i didnt vote for him…
I really like German people. Like 99% of them are fantastic. But wow you guys have had some generally horrible government decisions the last 100 years or so. I just don’t see how the pros outweigh the cons here. 10 years from now some new German politician will be apologizing about this decision…..
This again? It’s a 24.9% stake in ONE of the 42 terminals that exist in Hamburg. Meaning that even at that one terminal China can make no decisions since you need 25% to have voting power. This as of now is only a investment to boost shipping from and to Hamburg. Considering the shares China hold in other European ports, this is nothing.
I don’t understand the danger of China buying ports. If war breaks out or China invades Taiwan they can just seize it.
Germany has a talent for signing deals that negatively hamper its security.
Russian gas, Chinese ports.
No one here has anything to do with logistics Shut the fuck up if you’re from France, Spain, Italy, the Netherlands, Belgium. If you’re from any of these countries, you have no right to talk because you basically pushed Hamburg Harbor in this direction. Because all of you sold your harvest to the Chinese and are now yelling at the Germans because Hamburg is at an outright disadvantage. Because you folks sold out to the Chinese. And even what Germany has done now is way less than Rotterdam, Antwerp and all of the other major ports in Europe have. So shut the FUCK UP you FUCKING hypocrites. Because believe me, you have enough work to do at home and you better get started.
Corrupt Little bitch
Well, loads of other countries like France and Spain has already sold out ports to the chinese themselves.
It just leaves a bad taste in your mouth with the whole gas situationen with Russia that fucked the world over pretty much because it gave Russia the idea that they could do whatever they wanted.
Oh look it’s our daily dose of POLITICO rage bait.
If there only had been some previous indication that Scholz was a shady figure before the elections.
German hybrid and electric cars are 💩 in fact (use traditional car chassis for electric car🤮🤮🤮), worse than BYD(best China EV maker) that already came to Germany, its gonna be a competition!
France and Germany leading the EU by example.
China should not own or have stakes in any European infrastructure.
I am against a Chinese investment as long as China closes up their on market as they do at the moment. But just to be clear: China is going to buy 25% of the smallest container terminal at the port in Hamburg (they have 4 container terminals). They are NOT buying the whole port! So I think some of the reactions are maybe just a tad bit hysterical.
The typical China bootlicker – Cum-ex-Alzheimer Scholz. But with Blackrock-Mofa-Rocker Merz from the CDU it would be even worse. No plan B, no exit strategy – nothing. Seems that they are all working for the BASF board.
They are simply too stupid – the German carmakers are already nearly out of business (no competitive EVs in the last five years, the only business model is their hope to further sell their fossil dinosaur muscle cars) – totally ridiculous.
History repeats itself:
First round little Putinstan (->Ukraine) – second round big Xi-land (-> Taiwan, South China Sea,….)
A good educated Person can only vote Green. They do have a lot of good Points, some Bad ones, too. But over all they are the best you can get in Germany at this time. SPD pistorius does a gerät as defence Minister but He is the only shining Star there
Gefährdung von wichtiger Infrastruktur hat es in Hamburg nicht gegeben!
What an amazing chancellor we got here… Clean as a white sheet.
> A crucial mistake key departments made during the investment screening process allowed Scholz to outmaneuver his critics.
What a shit reporting. The problem is that Scholz *wanted* to make the deal against all sane advises. That he then found a trick to do it is not great, but the main problem is he wanting to sell to China.
Its a small sale compared to what everyone around us does, but its still pathetic that we step down to the level of Poland, Greece or Italy and sell out access to our ports to China.
This is the cost of asking China to intervene in the Russia-Ukraine war. Did you really believe that China would intervene for free?. Why would they intervene if there is nothing for them? They will ask for ports, industries and maybe even the Dutch semiconductor tech. It all depends on how far the Europeans (Germans) are going to go to placate them.
And if you are wondering why ask the Chinese to intervene in the first place? Well because the longer his war drags on, the worse off EU economics are going to be. Germans cannot turn to the US to end the war, not possible. The only other power who has influence on Russia is China.
Won’t be surprised if the Dutch semiconductor tech is given to the Chinese sometime next year when the US elections are in full swing and they are distracted with their internal issues.
Oh Germany, you just fucked up with Russia, now let’s fuck up with China….
Ver hat uns verraten?
Fuck, this guy only thinking in plain money
I still think it is funny everyone here is shittibg on Germany for what 30 other ports in the EU have done so they would always have some cargo coming through, Rotterdam and Antwerp both did this and no one complained? What is everyone’s obsession with Germany? Why should they be held to a different standard than others?
And I am saying this as a Belgian btw, this whole ruckus is so annoying
Fucking idiots. Doing everything but working in favor of the nation and the will of the population
Music dedication to SPD: Cindy Lauper’s “True Colors”
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Let’s say that Trump gets elected in the US and starts pressuring Europe for various deals. If Europe has already pissed off China, Europe will be in a very bad position of power.
We really need better leaders and less sellouts.
Oh, for fuck’s sake, why are Europe’s leaders so cowardly?
Merkel was very keen to get this lopsided deal through which would have allowed Chinese ownership of EU media, but not vice versa
https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-trade-deal-china-media-war-industry-soft-power/
Money is money, regardless the blood on it. German is emotionally tied up with Russian and CCP and communism ideology , for some reason.
It is a tough balancing act. Security on one hand and lots of money from Beijing on the other.
Hamburg Connection
Scholz is just a male clone of Merkel and the SPD of today is just a red painted CDU from 2005-2021.
Guess the Greens are now the only party left that at least try doing politics for the citizens instead of their personal friends.
Here we are, again, Olaf proving to be leadership genius and German Reddit folk will run frantically to defend this moronic tool…
kind of a yikes from me
Keep in mind we are talking about the selling of a 24,9% share of a single terminal out of several dozens.
Germany realized that Russia is a bad partner, so now they are shaking deals with China instead. Clever /s
well, Scholz is a financial thief/trickster who just cannot remember anything when asked about specific dealings in Hamburg. Also he is one of the biggest Landowners in Hamburg And he made his Senate Buddys pretty rich bach in the day.
So all in all this makes sense and is completely expected, i guess somewhere some chinese money appeared and he had to step in to secure it for him and his friends and probably to stop someone from remembering stuff…
Welp i didnt vote for him…
I really like German people. Like 99% of them are fantastic. But wow you guys have had some generally horrible government decisions the last 100 years or so. I just don’t see how the pros outweigh the cons here. 10 years from now some new German politician will be apologizing about this decision…..
This again? It’s a 24.9% stake in ONE of the 42 terminals that exist in Hamburg. Meaning that even at that one terminal China can make no decisions since you need 25% to have voting power. This as of now is only a investment to boost shipping from and to Hamburg. Considering the shares China hold in other European ports, this is nothing.
I don’t understand the danger of China buying ports. If war breaks out or China invades Taiwan they can just seize it.
Germany has a talent for signing deals that negatively hamper its security.
Russian gas, Chinese ports.
No one here has anything to do with logistics Shut the fuck up if you’re from France, Spain, Italy, the Netherlands, Belgium. If you’re from any of these countries, you have no right to talk because you basically pushed Hamburg Harbor in this direction. Because all of you sold your harvest to the Chinese and are now yelling at the Germans because Hamburg is at an outright disadvantage. Because you folks sold out to the Chinese. And even what Germany has done now is way less than Rotterdam, Antwerp and all of the other major ports in Europe have. So shut the FUCK UP you FUCKING hypocrites. Because believe me, you have enough work to do at home and you better get started.
Corrupt Little bitch
Well, loads of other countries like France and Spain has already sold out ports to the chinese themselves.
It just leaves a bad taste in your mouth with the whole gas situationen with Russia that fucked the world over pretty much because it gave Russia the idea that they could do whatever they wanted.
Oh look it’s our daily dose of POLITICO rage bait.
If there only had been some previous indication that Scholz was a shady figure before the elections.
German hybrid and electric cars are 💩 in fact (use traditional car chassis for electric car🤮🤮🤮), worse than BYD(best China EV maker) that already came to Germany, its gonna be a competition!
France and Germany leading the EU by example.
China should not own or have stakes in any European infrastructure.
I am against a Chinese investment as long as China closes up their on market as they do at the moment. But just to be clear: China is going to buy 25% of the smallest container terminal at the port in Hamburg (they have 4 container terminals). They are NOT buying the whole port! So I think some of the reactions are maybe just a tad bit hysterical.
The typical China bootlicker – Cum-ex-Alzheimer Scholz. But with Blackrock-Mofa-Rocker Merz from the CDU it would be even worse. No plan B, no exit strategy – nothing. Seems that they are all working for the BASF board.
They are simply too stupid – the German carmakers are already nearly out of business (no competitive EVs in the last five years, the only business model is their hope to further sell their fossil dinosaur muscle cars) – totally ridiculous.
History repeats itself:
First round little Putinstan (->Ukraine) – second round big Xi-land (-> Taiwan, South China Sea,….)
A good educated Person can only vote Green. They do have a lot of good Points, some Bad ones, too. But over all they are the best you can get in Germany at this time. SPD pistorius does a gerät as defence Minister but He is the only shining Star there
Gefährdung von wichtiger Infrastruktur hat es in Hamburg nicht gegeben!
What an amazing chancellor we got here… Clean as a white sheet.
> A crucial mistake key departments made during the investment screening process allowed Scholz to outmaneuver his critics.
What a shit reporting. The problem is that Scholz *wanted* to make the deal against all sane advises. That he then found a trick to do it is not great, but the main problem is he wanting to sell to China.
Its a small sale compared to what everyone around us does, but its still pathetic that we step down to the level of Poland, Greece or Italy and sell out access to our ports to China.
This is the cost of asking China to intervene in the Russia-Ukraine war. Did you really believe that China would intervene for free?. Why would they intervene if there is nothing for them? They will ask for ports, industries and maybe even the Dutch semiconductor tech. It all depends on how far the Europeans (Germans) are going to go to placate them.
And if you are wondering why ask the Chinese to intervene in the first place? Well because the longer his war drags on, the worse off EU economics are going to be. Germans cannot turn to the US to end the war, not possible. The only other power who has influence on Russia is China.
Won’t be surprised if the Dutch semiconductor tech is given to the Chinese sometime next year when the US elections are in full swing and they are distracted with their internal issues.
Oh Germany, you just fucked up with Russia, now let’s fuck up with China….
Ver hat uns verraten?
Fuck, this guy only thinking in plain money
I still think it is funny everyone here is shittibg on Germany for what 30 other ports in the EU have done so they would always have some cargo coming through, Rotterdam and Antwerp both did this and no one complained? What is everyone’s obsession with Germany? Why should they be held to a different standard than others?
And I am saying this as a Belgian btw, this whole ruckus is so annoying
Fucking idiots. Doing everything but working in favor of the nation and the will of the population
Music dedication to SPD: Cindy Lauper’s “True Colors”
So is he just dumb or also corrupt?