Definitely outperform me, I was wondering what they were at in Reading
All thanks to the ‘The Derek Zoolander Center for Kids Who Can’t Read Good and Who Wanna Learn to Do Other Stuff Good Too‘.
I blame the government.
Having grown up in England, and having had two of my kids experience early education in the US I can say with some confidence that the Irish system outperforms both from my own anecdotal experience.
Youngest is in a Gaelscoil and we’re delighted with it, back home wasn’t terrible but I went to school in a fairly deprived area. US school we experienced was pitiful despite being in a good area. Additional home tutors seem much more common over there and I can see why.
As it should be, we have enough rainy days to keep them inside reading
Really surprised by this. The level in my kids classes always seemed way behind where it should be to me. They are both way beyond where the curriculum is and most of my mates kids are the same.
He card read good.
Anecdotally I would agree and say that the system here leans towards reading early on vs maths.
My kids started school in Australia. When they came here they were a bit behind in reading. But maths… What is taught here still hasn’t caught up with what they were doing in Australia.
I could be wrong/misremembering here but recall hearing about 20 years back that Ireland didn’t score very well for literacy (on average) compared to many other European countries, so if that was the case this is even better news.
Won’t someone please think of the children…oh wait….
We seem to teach kids to read earlier here than other countries. Apparently in many countries it’s standard not to teach kids to read until 6 or 7 which seems crazy old to me.
This is great, absolutely!! My nine year old is a prolific reader!! It’s really wonderful to hear him read. The schools have done a great job with this.
However, (and this is an issue in the majority of schools in the country), their spelling is atrocious. We have a situation where kids can read exceptionally well but can’t spell worth a damn. I was previously on a school board and this issue came up.
It’s not the kids fault, it’s the way they are taught. From a young age kids are taught to read phonetically. Phonetics are great, and easy. Just learn the sound of the letter and then when you see a big word, sound it out. But it doesn’t lend itself to correct spelling.
Not sure what the solution is either. Don’t want to go back to the days of just memorising words off
I’m not surprised at all. I moved to the US at the end of second class. I was miles ahead of the US kids when I entered third grade. This was in the 80’s.
How do we rank in maths? Is it even tested?
If I remember correctly, we do quite well until 10 years old. Then we drop a bit in the 12-13 age.
Personally I think communion preparations get in the way.
“”The gender gap in Ireland is relatively small”, the study found, “and explained largely by girls’ very strong performance in reading fiction and deploying more complex skills.””
WTF?
That good me like.
We’re ahead because we’re behind in ghetto building but we’re really ramping that up now.
Got to love howthe Guardian managed to just pretend we weren’t part of the study because they scored below us.
Got to love even more that they completely ignored part of their own country – Northern Ireland – who also finished above England. 😂
For anyone paywalled, we got 2nd at 577, NI got 5th a 566, while England got 6th at 558.
Fighting in Reading, that’ll show those English…
Reading in one language is no big deal. Much of the world the kids can read multiple languages. Now that gives you options.
And while this is all good news, it seems that the gap between deis schools and non deis schools is growing. That is a concern.
As is wellbeing part of the report. They might be kerping up with reading, but it seems bullying is either reported more or on a rise.
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Definitely outperform me, I was wondering what they were at in Reading
All thanks to the ‘The Derek Zoolander Center for Kids Who Can’t Read Good and Who Wanna Learn to Do Other Stuff Good Too‘.
I blame the government.
Having grown up in England, and having had two of my kids experience early education in the US I can say with some confidence that the Irish system outperforms both from my own anecdotal experience.
Youngest is in a Gaelscoil and we’re delighted with it, back home wasn’t terrible but I went to school in a fairly deprived area. US school we experienced was pitiful despite being in a good area. Additional home tutors seem much more common over there and I can see why.
As it should be, we have enough rainy days to keep them inside reading
Really surprised by this. The level in my kids classes always seemed way behind where it should be to me. They are both way beyond where the curriculum is and most of my mates kids are the same.
He card read good.
Anecdotally I would agree and say that the system here leans towards reading early on vs maths.
My kids started school in Australia. When they came here they were a bit behind in reading. But maths… What is taught here still hasn’t caught up with what they were doing in Australia.
I could be wrong/misremembering here but recall hearing about 20 years back that Ireland didn’t score very well for literacy (on average) compared to many other European countries, so if that was the case this is even better news.
Won’t someone please think of the children…oh wait….
We seem to teach kids to read earlier here than other countries. Apparently in many countries it’s standard not to teach kids to read until 6 or 7 which seems crazy old to me.
This is great, absolutely!! My nine year old is a prolific reader!! It’s really wonderful to hear him read. The schools have done a great job with this.
However, (and this is an issue in the majority of schools in the country), their spelling is atrocious. We have a situation where kids can read exceptionally well but can’t spell worth a damn. I was previously on a school board and this issue came up.
It’s not the kids fault, it’s the way they are taught. From a young age kids are taught to read phonetically. Phonetics are great, and easy. Just learn the sound of the letter and then when you see a big word, sound it out. But it doesn’t lend itself to correct spelling.
Not sure what the solution is either. Don’t want to go back to the days of just memorising words off
I’m not surprised at all. I moved to the US at the end of second class. I was miles ahead of the US kids when I entered third grade. This was in the 80’s.
How do we rank in maths? Is it even tested?
If I remember correctly, we do quite well until 10 years old. Then we drop a bit in the 12-13 age.
Personally I think communion preparations get in the way.
Find this very hard to believe.
The Brits are at it again: [https://apple.news/AXa_xkcoBRf2CdUta1UPwlg](https://apple.news/AXa_xkcoBRf2CdUta1UPwlg)
“”The gender gap in Ireland is relatively small”, the study found, “and explained largely by girls’ very strong performance in reading fiction and deploying more complex skills.””
WTF?
That good me like.
We’re ahead because we’re behind in ghetto building but we’re really ramping that up now.
Got to love howthe Guardian managed to just pretend we weren’t part of the study because they scored below us.
Got to love even more that they completely ignored part of their own country – Northern Ireland – who also finished above England. 😂
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2023/may/16/reading-ability-of-children-in-england-scores-well-in-global-survey
Here are the rankings: https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/education/2023/05/16/irish-primary-children-excel-in-global-reading-test/
For anyone paywalled, we got 2nd at 577, NI got 5th a 566, while England got 6th at 558.
Fighting in Reading, that’ll show those English…
Reading in one language is no big deal. Much of the world the kids can read multiple languages. Now that gives you options.
And while this is all good news, it seems that the gap between deis schools and non deis schools is growing. That is a concern.
As is wellbeing part of the report. They might be kerping up with reading, but it seems bullying is either reported more or on a rise.