> A Conservative MP has been accused of using a term associated with “antisemitism” at the start of a political conference in London.
>Miriam Cates, the MP for Penistone and Stocksbridge, told the National Conservatism conference that “cultural Marxism” is “destroying our children’s souls”.
>Lord Mann the governments independent adviser of antisemitism, told Jewish News that it was “just not appropriate for a parliamentarian to be using a term such as this
> Asked if he would associate the term “cultural Marxism” with antisemitic discourse, Lord Mann added:”It is antisemitism .”
>In her speech Cates kicked off the conference on Monday by claiming young people were being deprived of bright futures.
>She said:”“That hope is sadly diminishing in so many of our young people today, because liberal individualism has proven to be completely powerless to resist the cultural Marxism that is systematically destroying our children’s souls.
>“When culture, schools and universities openly teach that our country is racist, our heroes are villains, humanity is killing the Earth, you are what you desire, diversity is theology, boundaries are tyranny and self-restraint is oppression, is it any wonder that mental health conditions, self-harm and suicide, and epidemic levels of anxiety and confusion characterise the emerging generation?”
>Labour’s Dame Margaret Hodge also criticised Cates over her use of language.
>She told Jewish News:”It shows what a long journey we still have to travel, when MPs such as this can make such thoughtless contributions which are indeed offensive to Jewish people.”
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> The term centres on a conspiracy theory that Christian and Conservative values within Western society have been undermined by the theories of a niche group of Marxist, and largely Jewish, inter-war German scholars.
>The phrase has been circulated among far-Right groups in the US since the 1990s and was later cited in the manifesto of far-Right terrorist and mass murder Anders Behring Breivik.
What does cultural Marxism actually mean? I swear it’s just some nonsense term spouted by morons to sound intelligent. If by Marxism they mean to seize the means of cultural production? Or do they mean communist culture, where we all share the same culture? Isn’t human history an infinite melding and combining and clashing and entwining of cultures?
Unsurprising that this sort of Hitler inspired term is bandied about by them freely. Tories are a rolling hate crime
Had this been a Labour MP at a left leaning conference the Tory tabloids would have had a field day, instead they ignore this and many other antis Semitic and Islamaphobic slurs. These Tories want Trumpian revolution in their party and government
To note the conference they were at
>The conference, run by US right-wing think tank the Edmund Burke Foundation and informally known as NatCon, seeks to promote concepts of tradition, religion and national identity. It is expected to address a post-Brexit Britain, with a focus on cultural identity and family values. It will feature speakers who have called for abortion to be banned and have said life should be made “harder” for Muslims. https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/national-conservatism-conference-block-left-progressive-novara-byline-times/
It’s amazing how the papers are not reporting any of the natC rhetoric and disgusting comments over the past few days. Very few reporting another dodgy Tory donor laundering money direct to boris Johnson. Or Rees mogg admitting the voter id was an attempt to rig an election.
We are meant to be shocked sue gray is seeking employment or that starmer wants 16 year olds to have a vote.
If this MP isn’t thrown out of the Tory party, it tells you a lot about the modern Conservative Party and their values.
If they think that their party is compatible with using Hitler’s slogans and Nazi dogwhistles, they deserve to be utterly wiped out at the next election.
This has happened before several times over the past few years.
They don’t care and they don’t care about learning about it.
How do I know? Because I wrote to several of them at the time to explain why it was a problem and with the exception of Oliver Dowden who eventually accepted my point (not immediately though,) the others were entirely unapologetic. One of them was even jewish himself and still didn’t get it.
They really are trolling for certain responses with this national socia… conservatism nonsense aren’t they.
I think we’ve found our answer to Marjorie Taylor Greene
Describing it as a slur is doing a disservice. It’s quite literally an old nazi idea, ‘cultural/jewish bolshevism’, that’s been renamed by neo-nazis.
It’s an antisemitic canard and conspiracy theory. If this had come from labour the BBC would be running 24/7 coverage of how the party is full of neonazis.
Rule 1: when someone says “cultural marxism”, ask them what the fuck it means.
Ever since Braverman made that ‘tofu eating wokerati’ comment it became clear to me that there are elements within the Conservative Party who wish to drag British political discourse into the same gutter that American politics has existed in for years. It’s sad to see our politicians talking in meaningless, dumb, culture wars soundbites like this.
I doubt this woman could give a clear definition of what ‘cultural Marxism’ is, because all it means to her and most of the people who eat this shit up is ‘the gays/the libs/the rich Jews/anyone else we don’t like’.
I used to think British politics could never end up as dumbed down as American politics. I now have my doubts.
I think we’re looking at the beginning of a full on schism within the Conservative Party.
A large chunk of the established membership aren’t happy with this sort of nonsense. I hope they can stop it before it’s too late and they end up with the insanity of the Republican party in the US
If you want to take your head out of this mentally challenged echo space and think for yourself, go on the wayback machine and look at cultural Marxism’s Wikipedia page 10 years ago.
But as we all like talking past each other, no one is talking about cultural Bolshevism, what they’re referring to is the works of the Frankfurt school, Adorno and Marcuse, “Repressive tolerance”. It’s so stupid to try and make it about Judaism this way it can’t be attributed to anything but bad actors.
A better way of saying it’s antisemetic (but still wrong) would be pointing out the school consisted of many Jews. But as we can differentiate people and ideas it’s still fundamentally stupid, also a little racist.
There’s something inevitable about them drifting towards Trump/American style “culture wars” rhetoric as they get more desperate. Its incredibly depressing
I mean, my local Tory MP used the term [“n****r in a woodpile” in an open meeting](https://youtu.be/Q_TtVSRxWyQ) and is still our Tory MP, so I can’t see anything actually happening to this person.
She says it because she hates you all, not only Jews. Her
Remember about a week after the Lineker thing Suella trotted out her Jewish husband and had him say how offended he was?
Right wing types depsetately tried to take him seriously, but it could never work when he stands by silently as his wife flirts with anti semitic conspiracy theories so publicly.
I wonder how they could possibly explain this to their kids?
When I first became politically active across 2008-09, the only people banging on about “Cultural Marxism” (or [Kulturbolschewismus](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Bolshevism) in the original German) were BNP supporters. The fact that it’s being openly used by members of the Tory Party shows how normalised far right politics have become.
Who paid for this conference and why are MPs attending when they’re being paid to do a job for their constituents and country? Makes you realise how shit our media is when they don’t ask these questions to the numerous Tory MP’s having yet another jolly.
Surprise surprise that there are antisemites at the “Nat C” conference.
And that’s how fascism descended over the UK, not with a bang but with Tory wet fart sounds
100% a dogwhistle, one of the oldest ones. Imported from the USA I imagine
We don’t need Nazi conspiracy theories here, thank you very much.
In case this MP is not aware, we fought against the Nazis and refuted their ideology.
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> A Conservative MP has been accused of using a term associated with “antisemitism” at the start of a political conference in London.
>Miriam Cates, the MP for Penistone and Stocksbridge, told the National Conservatism conference that “cultural Marxism” is “destroying our children’s souls”.
>Lord Mann the governments independent adviser of antisemitism, told Jewish News that it was “just not appropriate for a parliamentarian to be using a term such as this
> Asked if he would associate the term “cultural Marxism” with antisemitic discourse, Lord Mann added:”It is antisemitism .”
>In her speech Cates kicked off the conference on Monday by claiming young people were being deprived of bright futures.
>She said:”“That hope is sadly diminishing in so many of our young people today, because liberal individualism has proven to be completely powerless to resist the cultural Marxism that is systematically destroying our children’s souls.
>“When culture, schools and universities openly teach that our country is racist, our heroes are villains, humanity is killing the Earth, you are what you desire, diversity is theology, boundaries are tyranny and self-restraint is oppression, is it any wonder that mental health conditions, self-harm and suicide, and epidemic levels of anxiety and confusion characterise the emerging generation?”
>Labour’s Dame Margaret Hodge also criticised Cates over her use of language.
>She told Jewish News:”It shows what a long journey we still have to travel, when MPs such as this can make such thoughtless contributions which are indeed offensive to Jewish people.”
…
> The term centres on a conspiracy theory that Christian and Conservative values within Western society have been undermined by the theories of a niche group of Marxist, and largely Jewish, inter-war German scholars.
>The phrase has been circulated among far-Right groups in the US since the 1990s and was later cited in the manifesto of far-Right terrorist and mass murder Anders Behring Breivik.
What does cultural Marxism actually mean? I swear it’s just some nonsense term spouted by morons to sound intelligent. If by Marxism they mean to seize the means of cultural production? Or do they mean communist culture, where we all share the same culture? Isn’t human history an infinite melding and combining and clashing and entwining of cultures?
Unsurprising that this sort of Hitler inspired term is bandied about by them freely. Tories are a rolling hate crime
Had this been a Labour MP at a left leaning conference the Tory tabloids would have had a field day, instead they ignore this and many other antis Semitic and Islamaphobic slurs. These Tories want Trumpian revolution in their party and government
To note the conference they were at
>The conference, run by US right-wing think tank the Edmund Burke Foundation and informally known as NatCon, seeks to promote concepts of tradition, religion and national identity. It is expected to address a post-Brexit Britain, with a focus on cultural identity and family values. It will feature speakers who have called for abortion to be banned and have said life should be made “harder” for Muslims. https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/national-conservatism-conference-block-left-progressive-novara-byline-times/
It’s amazing how the papers are not reporting any of the natC rhetoric and disgusting comments over the past few days. Very few reporting another dodgy Tory donor laundering money direct to boris Johnson. Or Rees mogg admitting the voter id was an attempt to rig an election.
We are meant to be shocked sue gray is seeking employment or that starmer wants 16 year olds to have a vote.
If this MP isn’t thrown out of the Tory party, it tells you a lot about the modern Conservative Party and their values.
If they think that their party is compatible with using Hitler’s slogans and Nazi dogwhistles, they deserve to be utterly wiped out at the next election.
This has happened before several times over the past few years.
They don’t care and they don’t care about learning about it.
How do I know? Because I wrote to several of them at the time to explain why it was a problem and with the exception of Oliver Dowden who eventually accepted my point (not immediately though,) the others were entirely unapologetic. One of them was even jewish himself and still didn’t get it.
They really are trolling for certain responses with this national socia… conservatism nonsense aren’t they.
I think we’ve found our answer to Marjorie Taylor Greene
Describing it as a slur is doing a disservice. It’s quite literally an old nazi idea, ‘cultural/jewish bolshevism’, that’s been renamed by neo-nazis.
It’s an antisemitic canard and conspiracy theory. If this had come from labour the BBC would be running 24/7 coverage of how the party is full of neonazis.
Rule 1: when someone says “cultural marxism”, ask them what the fuck it means.
Ever since Braverman made that ‘tofu eating wokerati’ comment it became clear to me that there are elements within the Conservative Party who wish to drag British political discourse into the same gutter that American politics has existed in for years. It’s sad to see our politicians talking in meaningless, dumb, culture wars soundbites like this.
I doubt this woman could give a clear definition of what ‘cultural Marxism’ is, because all it means to her and most of the people who eat this shit up is ‘the gays/the libs/the rich Jews/anyone else we don’t like’.
I used to think British politics could never end up as dumbed down as American politics. I now have my doubts.
I think we’re looking at the beginning of a full on schism within the Conservative Party.
A large chunk of the established membership aren’t happy with this sort of nonsense. I hope they can stop it before it’s too late and they end up with the insanity of the Republican party in the US
If you want to take your head out of this mentally challenged echo space and think for yourself, go on the wayback machine and look at cultural Marxism’s Wikipedia page 10 years ago.
But as we all like talking past each other, no one is talking about cultural Bolshevism, what they’re referring to is the works of the Frankfurt school, Adorno and Marcuse, “Repressive tolerance”. It’s so stupid to try and make it about Judaism this way it can’t be attributed to anything but bad actors.
A better way of saying it’s antisemetic (but still wrong) would be pointing out the school consisted of many Jews. But as we can differentiate people and ideas it’s still fundamentally stupid, also a little racist.
There’s something inevitable about them drifting towards Trump/American style “culture wars” rhetoric as they get more desperate. Its incredibly depressing
I mean, my local Tory MP used the term [“n****r in a woodpile” in an open meeting](https://youtu.be/Q_TtVSRxWyQ) and is still our Tory MP, so I can’t see anything actually happening to this person.
She says it because she hates you all, not only Jews. Her
Remember about a week after the Lineker thing Suella trotted out her Jewish husband and had him say how offended he was?
Right wing types depsetately tried to take him seriously, but it could never work when he stands by silently as his wife flirts with anti semitic conspiracy theories so publicly.
I wonder how they could possibly explain this to their kids?
When I first became politically active across 2008-09, the only people banging on about “Cultural Marxism” (or [Kulturbolschewismus](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Bolshevism) in the original German) were BNP supporters. The fact that it’s being openly used by members of the Tory Party shows how normalised far right politics have become.
Who paid for this conference and why are MPs attending when they’re being paid to do a job for their constituents and country? Makes you realise how shit our media is when they don’t ask these questions to the numerous Tory MP’s having yet another jolly.
Surprise surprise that there are antisemites at the “Nat C” conference.
And that’s how fascism descended over the UK, not with a bang but with Tory wet fart sounds
100% a dogwhistle, one of the oldest ones. Imported from the USA I imagine
We don’t need Nazi conspiracy theories here, thank you very much.
In case this MP is not aware, we fought against the Nazis and refuted their ideology.
You’d think the EHRC might be interested in this.
Oh wait, probably not.