Germany has called on China to close illegal overseas police stations that German authorities suspect are being used by the government in Beijing to control and intimidate Chinese expatriates living abroad.
Germany has been in talks with the Chinese government since November about shutting down the operations, Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Andrea Sasse told reporters in Berlin on Monday.
In February, the Chinese government denied that it was operating illegal police stations on German territory, Sasse said. However, Beijing did acknowledge that it was running so-called service stations in Germany, which it promised to close.
Despite the pledge, China still maintains at least two mobile police stations in Germany whose activities are carefully watched by local authorities, Interior Ministry Spokesman Maximilian Kall said at the conference.
“The security authorities are closely monitoring these activities as well as other activities of foreign states in Germany. And this applies in particular and especially to these overseas police stations,” Kall said. “These are usually not fixed, stationary offices but mobile facilities.”
Germany is liaising closely with the US and other European Union member states on the matter and on how to address the extraterritorial activities of Chinese security authorities more broadly, Sasse said. Berlin is also in ongoing talks with China about the issue, she added.
“The Chinese government has always upheld international law and respected the sovereignty and jurisdiction of all countries,” according to an embassy statement. “The Chinese Embassy in Germany has repeatedly reiterated these facts and our position to the relevant German authorities. It remains for us to expect that the German side will deal with this objectively and leave no room for further speculation.”
According to Kall, China’s overseas police stations are often linked to employees of Chinese security agencies. The concern is not about closing traditional police stations, Kall added, but rather about convincing people involved to stop engaging in illegal overseas activities.
In April, the US Department of Justice charged two Chinese nationals with seeking to set up an overseas police station in New York on behalf of the Fuzhou branch of China’s Ministry of Public Security.
> Countries have been in talks about the issue since November
Yeah, sounds like German bureaucracy.
Have they considered just telling China they have to, and then closing it themselves if they don’t? Just an idea.
How about just behaving like a normal country and shutting it down instead of asking China for permission?
China: “STOP HURTING OUR FEELINGS”
or something around those lines
I don’t get it. They *asked* China to please shut down illegal police outposts? like, why? I don’t understand. I would shut them down and arrest anyone involved, am I too rude?
Imagine what would ensue if it was a different country having underground inquisitors planted here, like the US
Lol wtf? Are you going to start asking the chinese to please stop kidnapping people? It’s an illegal police station… just close it??!?
How impotent does Germany look here. Arrest everyone involved for Christ sake
“Pressures”? Yeah, that’ll show them.
I live in Germany and the thing I don’t understand why they can not just close these locations and send away these people whose job it is to threaten and attack critics of the Chinese government inside Germany. It is widely known who they are and from where they operate but the German police just seem to assume that they are not allowed to intervene.
“pressures”? fucking go arrest them ffs
Soooo….
“Pwease China, shutdown the illegal police station you have in our territory. That’s mean.”
Just this?
Why the fuck German government allowed Chinese police station to be built in Germany in first place??
India don’t even allows any mobile apps, website built by Chinese developers/Companies.
We literally need to delete this chinese shit here in italy too.
But the gov is too corrupt with china to do something like that
Why ask them? These Outposts were illegaly established in another country. If you know where one is just conduct a raid a shut it down.
Hard to believe these are the same people who have the world Nazis.
(Nazis are pure evil and bad … I’m just making the point that the average current German is a pansy in comparison).
Fucking China has secret police stations in their country and Germany politely asks them to move off!!!! I weep for Europe.
Would you mind to close these secret outposts? Please?
Sincerely yours and kindly regards, ze Germans.
It’s on German soil, Germany has every right to shut it down himself. Police stations abroad should gernally speaking never be accepted.
Germany now wants Chinese gas or what? Can’t like they raid them?
“lol no”
~ China
What a cowardly move. If we know those people, why not throw them out of the EU immediately?
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Germany has called on China to close illegal overseas police stations that German authorities suspect are being used by the government in Beijing to control and intimidate Chinese expatriates living abroad.
Germany has been in talks with the Chinese government since November about shutting down the operations, Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Andrea Sasse told reporters in Berlin on Monday.
In February, the Chinese government denied that it was operating illegal police stations on German territory, Sasse said. However, Beijing did acknowledge that it was running so-called service stations in Germany, which it promised to close.
Despite the pledge, China still maintains at least two mobile police stations in Germany whose activities are carefully watched by local authorities, Interior Ministry Spokesman Maximilian Kall said at the conference.
“The security authorities are closely monitoring these activities as well as other activities of foreign states in Germany. And this applies in particular and especially to these overseas police stations,” Kall said. “These are usually not fixed, stationary offices but mobile facilities.”
Germany is liaising closely with the US and other European Union member states on the matter and on how to address the extraterritorial activities of Chinese security authorities more broadly, Sasse said. Berlin is also in ongoing talks with China about the issue, she added.
“The Chinese government has always upheld international law and respected the sovereignty and jurisdiction of all countries,” according to an embassy statement. “The Chinese Embassy in Germany has repeatedly reiterated these facts and our position to the relevant German authorities. It remains for us to expect that the German side will deal with this objectively and leave no room for further speculation.”
According to Kall, China’s overseas police stations are often linked to employees of Chinese security agencies. The concern is not about closing traditional police stations, Kall added, but rather about convincing people involved to stop engaging in illegal overseas activities.
In April, the US Department of Justice charged two Chinese nationals with seeking to set up an overseas police station in New York on behalf of the Fuzhou branch of China’s Ministry of Public Security.
> Countries have been in talks about the issue since November
Yeah, sounds like German bureaucracy.
Have they considered just telling China they have to, and then closing it themselves if they don’t? Just an idea.
How about just behaving like a normal country and shutting it down instead of asking China for permission?
China: “STOP HURTING OUR FEELINGS”
or something around those lines
I don’t get it. They *asked* China to please shut down illegal police outposts? like, why? I don’t understand. I would shut them down and arrest anyone involved, am I too rude?
Imagine what would ensue if it was a different country having underground inquisitors planted here, like the US
Lol wtf? Are you going to start asking the chinese to please stop kidnapping people? It’s an illegal police station… just close it??!?
How impotent does Germany look here. Arrest everyone involved for Christ sake
“Pressures”? Yeah, that’ll show them.
I live in Germany and the thing I don’t understand why they can not just close these locations and send away these people whose job it is to threaten and attack critics of the Chinese government inside Germany. It is widely known who they are and from where they operate but the German police just seem to assume that they are not allowed to intervene.
“pressures”? fucking go arrest them ffs
Soooo….
“Pwease China, shutdown the illegal police station you have in our territory. That’s mean.”
Just this?
Why the fuck German government allowed Chinese police station to be built in Germany in first place??
India don’t even allows any mobile apps, website built by Chinese developers/Companies.
We literally need to delete this chinese shit here in italy too.
But the gov is too corrupt with china to do something like that
Why ask them? These Outposts were illegaly established in another country. If you know where one is just conduct a raid a shut it down.
Hard to believe these are the same people who have the world Nazis.
(Nazis are pure evil and bad … I’m just making the point that the average current German is a pansy in comparison).
Fucking China has secret police stations in their country and Germany politely asks them to move off!!!! I weep for Europe.
Would you mind to close these secret outposts? Please?
Sincerely yours and kindly regards, ze Germans.
It’s on German soil, Germany has every right to shut it down himself. Police stations abroad should gernally speaking never be accepted.
Germany now wants Chinese gas or what? Can’t like they raid them?
“lol no”
~ China
What a cowardly move. If we know those people, why not throw them out of the EU immediately?