>could be capable of logging and storing the web histories of millions of people.
Least we know they’re not using a spreadsheet this time. Wonder how many people’s web history you could fit on a hard drive. You’re only really need to store a unique user id, a URL, and a datetime for each request. You get about 1KB in a reddit comment, that’d hold at least a few.
Thought it was already logged by the ISP, and all they need to do is ask?
The war on privacy and march to fascism continues.
Won’t be long until those who speak up against the government get put on watchlists, have their movements tracked and start getting locked up for it.
Sounds like we can just slap a VPN on and we’re good?
If we just vote Tory again then they’ll just fuck it up and then there’s nothing to worry about!
One day a party will be in power,and will use these laws,against the people that ,created them
For reference look back to late 90s in US. Start of NSA metadata bulk collection programs. Competition between programs Thinthread and Trailblazer which merged into Solarwinds.
Well you can look at 1945-73 for another form of bulk messaging collection.
I for one welcome this intrusion on my private life conducted by the considerate powers that be who only have my best interests at heart.
I’m very much against this sort of thing; but that being said, if you’re a terrorist and you get caught by something like this, you only have yourself to blame.
This would be laughably easy to avoid if you’re up to no good.
By the way, the reason they can see the site you’re looking at, but not the specific page on the site, is https. If the site is plain http, this protection does not apply and they can see the exact URL.
Firefox browser wanted to include dns-over-https but UK govt was not happy with it; it’s an option in the brower but is disabled on UK by default. (Unless that’s changed? I haven’t checked).
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Guys, they paid 2 million for this. Which means a, it already existed, and b, they already have a technical means to do this.
This is them making legal what they were already doing.
Use a VPN, use Tor… Privacy is a right and rights are exercised by maintaining them against violation.
The one thing I have hammered into my kids heads is that if it goes online, no matter how secure, secret, anonymous, encrypted etc you believe it to be, it can be found by *someone* and it can always come back to bite you.
Put nothing online or in a message that you cannot survive becoming public.
In the meantime, yes, of course this needs to be resisted, of course people are playing on reasonable fears to manipulate us into supporting a level of surveillance that even 30 years ago would have seemed like a dystopian novel, but people should always remember that once you have hit post or send, you’ve lost control of whatever it is you share.
How do we know it’s ramping up then? Fallen at the first hurdle surely
Turns out “we are only followink ze orders” is a good defence. A fucking good one.
LOL Gchq has total visibiity how can it rampup? Has had since ECHELON days.
If you don’t have the technical know-how to implement this at the router level, you can implement it automatically by [switching your browser to FireFox](https://www.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/new/), which enables DNS over HTTPS **by default**.
We’re teetering closer and closer towards authoritarianism thanks to both the Conservatives and New Labour.
Best thing you can do if you want to avoid this fate is vote against the establishment (Tories and Labour.) The Liberal Democrats, Greens and SNP don’t want to erode your rights. Heck, even if you somehow still support Brexit and still think Farage was the best thing since sliced bread after these past six years, even Reform UK are more willing to look after your liberties than the likes of Starmer and Sunak.
Guilty until proven innocent, excusing the approach under the guise of fighting nonces.
Spoiler: it’s about societal control and snooping on industry.
Look man, I just want to watch Futanari Hentai in peace.
People should get and use a reputable VPN and, ideally, an unusually secure browser. Tor is the gold-standard on the latter front (combined, for what we might call ‘platinum’, with the operating system Qubes, or perhaps Tails). Recently though a good compromise (‘bronze’?) browser has appeared, namely, [Mullvad’s](https://mullvad.net/en/browser). Or at the very least, people should use Firefox (as against Edge or Chrome or Safari).
EDIT: and of course one could go on – use an old computer, or a super-expensive one, such that there is no Intel ‘TPM’; and so on . .
Would this be a good time to mention the advantages of NordVPN?
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>could be capable of logging and storing the web histories of millions of people.
Least we know they’re not using a spreadsheet this time. Wonder how many people’s web history you could fit on a hard drive. You’re only really need to store a unique user id, a URL, and a datetime for each request. You get about 1KB in a reddit comment, that’d hold at least a few.
Thought it was already logged by the ISP, and all they need to do is ask?
The war on privacy and march to fascism continues.
Won’t be long until those who speak up against the government get put on watchlists, have their movements tracked and start getting locked up for it.
Sounds like we can just slap a VPN on and we’re good?
If we just vote Tory again then they’ll just fuck it up and then there’s nothing to worry about!
One day a party will be in power,and will use these laws,against the people that ,created them
For reference look back to late 90s in US. Start of NSA metadata bulk collection programs. Competition between programs Thinthread and Trailblazer which merged into Solarwinds.
Well you can look at 1945-73 for another form of bulk messaging collection.
I for one welcome this intrusion on my private life conducted by the considerate powers that be who only have my best interests at heart.
I’m very much against this sort of thing; but that being said, if you’re a terrorist and you get caught by something like this, you only have yourself to blame.
This would be laughably easy to avoid if you’re up to no good.
By the way, the reason they can see the site you’re looking at, but not the specific page on the site, is https. If the site is plain http, this protection does not apply and they can see the exact URL.
Firefox browser wanted to include dns-over-https but UK govt was not happy with it; it’s an option in the brower but is disabled on UK by default. (Unless that’s changed? I haven’t checked).
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Guys, they paid 2 million for this. Which means a, it already existed, and b, they already have a technical means to do this.
This is them making legal what they were already doing.
Use a VPN, use Tor… Privacy is a right and rights are exercised by maintaining them against violation.
The one thing I have hammered into my kids heads is that if it goes online, no matter how secure, secret, anonymous, encrypted etc you believe it to be, it can be found by *someone* and it can always come back to bite you.
Put nothing online or in a message that you cannot survive becoming public.
In the meantime, yes, of course this needs to be resisted, of course people are playing on reasonable fears to manipulate us into supporting a level of surveillance that even 30 years ago would have seemed like a dystopian novel, but people should always remember that once you have hit post or send, you’ve lost control of whatever it is you share.
How do we know it’s ramping up then? Fallen at the first hurdle surely
Turns out “we are only followink ze orders” is a good defence. A fucking good one.
LOL Gchq has total visibiity how can it rampup? Has had since ECHELON days.
If you haven’t learned about DNS over HTTPS/TLS yet, [now is a good time](https://www.cloudflare.com/en-gb/learning/dns/dns-over-tls/).
If you don’t have the technical know-how to implement this at the router level, you can implement it automatically by [switching your browser to FireFox](https://www.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/new/), which enables DNS over HTTPS **by default**.
Don’t like the way modern FireFox looks? [Go back to the Photon design with some simple CSS modifications](https://github.com/black7375/Firefox-UI-Fix).
Worried about your extensions? [Firefox has a much more powerful extension base](https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/), and hasn’t limited what extensions can do – unlike Chrome. [Mozilla has retained all the features that Chrome removed with Manifest v3](https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/extensions-addons/heres-whats-going-on-in-the-world-of-extensions/), so all of your extensions are just as powerful as they were before.
We’re teetering closer and closer towards authoritarianism thanks to both the Conservatives and New Labour.
Best thing you can do if you want to avoid this fate is vote against the establishment (Tories and Labour.) The Liberal Democrats, Greens and SNP don’t want to erode your rights. Heck, even if you somehow still support Brexit and still think Farage was the best thing since sliced bread after these past six years, even Reform UK are more willing to look after your liberties than the likes of Starmer and Sunak.
Guilty until proven innocent, excusing the approach under the guise of fighting nonces.
Spoiler: it’s about societal control and snooping on industry.
Look man, I just want to watch Futanari Hentai in peace.
People should get and use a reputable VPN and, ideally, an unusually secure browser. Tor is the gold-standard on the latter front (combined, for what we might call ‘platinum’, with the operating system Qubes, or perhaps Tails). Recently though a good compromise (‘bronze’?) browser has appeared, namely, [Mullvad’s](https://mullvad.net/en/browser). Or at the very least, people should use Firefox (as against Edge or Chrome or Safari).
EDIT: and of course one could go on – use an old computer, or a super-expensive one, such that there is no Intel ‘TPM’; and so on . .
Would this be a good time to mention the advantages of NordVPN?