Friends a teacher. He was telling a kid off for misbehaving, threatening with detention and the kid said im going to tell the head teacher you hit me
School is really cruel, in my older years I’ve realised what a tosser I was in school and wish I could turn back time to be a better person. Teachers have it rough, and they’re paid very little for what they have to put up with.
I recall a teacher I really disliked in school being locked in a cupboard by her students, I found it hilarious at the time, and she didn’t return to school for months. I look back on it now in disgust.
That was going on over a decade ago in schools, I dread to think what it’s like now.
When police officers say they are at risk of unfounded allegations this sub doesn’t seem to have much sympathy…
It’s not just pupils, it’s parents too. My sister teaches and had a parent accuse her of all sorts of shit because she’d taken the side of another parent when their kids got in a fight. I mean, this parent literally waged war on her trying to get her sacked.
Everyone who works with children and young people, patients, prisoners, suspects etc… all of us are constantly at risk from unfounded allegations. I investigate them as part of my job. I have had them made against me. Believe me, I know how it feels to be on the receiving end. I don’t know what we do to improve things though- there is good reason why we take allegations seriously, suspend/ redeploy subjects, carry out full investigations. For so long the balance of power was so far weighted the other way, and abusers operated with impunity- who among us isn’t aware of non recent cases where the attitude was to dismiss and ignore allegations and leave victims vulnerable and abusers able to continue doing what they do? But at the same time, lives and health are ruined by false allegations, and the way we respond to them is well known by most, and weaponised. I genuinely don’t know what we need to do to get it right.
Reason 9001 to not be a teacher.
Sounds like one of the worst jobs out there, which is a shame because I bet when you have the right teacher with the right student, it’s probably one of the best, most rewarding jobs out there.
My dad was an assistant school caretaker around 2003, he told one of the teachers something like there was a couple of girls were bunking off a lesson smoking and they got in trouble.
A few days later they claimed he made sexual comments to them in their PE kit as they went past. Obviously the school had to investigate and he was questioned etc and sent home early.
IIRC when questioned a few students said the girls were being mouthy to him, he told them to piss off and walked away. After that he was working with other staff so had alibis.
The girls got something like 2 days detentions/suspension for something which could have had a massive impact on his life.
Mentioned on here about a family member who’s a teacher who broke up a fight to be accused of assaulting a kid while breaking up the fight.
Teachers have it rough and doesn’t help that kids know how to play them. A pupil can push a teacher around and basically get away with it. If a teacher were to pull a pupil out of the chair or push them out of the classroom, then they’d be in the shit.
I’m not saying teachers should be able to beat up kids but they need something. If a pupil refuses to get up and leave the classroom, then what can a teacher do? Get the head teacher and the kid still refuses, disrupting the lesson for the rest.
I have no idea why anybody would want to be a teacher in this day and age, maybe a primary school teacher but definitely not secondary.
My friend was a teacher and something like this happened to him. He quit after two years of teaching.
He had a class that were wild and very difficult to teach. They were all lovely as individuals but totally unsuitable for academia. No chance of passing their exams.
Anyway, he said he got on the wrong side of one of the pupils one day, and she would make comments, like “sir, I hate you”. He just thought she was joking because all he’d done was give her a small telling off for something stupid she’d done.
He said after a week, from the incident, he turned up to teach the class and half the class were missing. Turned out they were all being interviewed because the girl had made a serious complaint about him. She accused him of using sexual language.
He was a mess. Proper broke down because he really liked teaching them, despite the issues.
He was acquitted because the rest of the class basically said she was lying, but he was never allowed to teach that class again. The class were gutted, but that put him off teaching, and he got out after that. He could have had his career and reputation ruined because he pissed a kid off, and he was just trying to do his job.
I love being a teacher. Really, it’s such an amazing honour for me to be able to share history and knowledge with young people, and get paid to do it.
However, I’m currently off with stress, and have just been prescribed anti depressants. The school im in is run to the ground, the students aren’t even the worst part.
The only reason I haven’t changed careers yet is because I hope things will improve, I can’t imagine devoting my whole life to becoming a teacher, only to jack it in after a couple years.
That’s what happens when you can’t/ won’t/ don’t discipline kids properly. You get self entitled vicious little cunts who can get away with what they want. 2030/40/50s are gonna be scary place with them in charge.
The solution is easy, a camera and microphone in every classroom.
I remember in school some girl, in front of our class of sixth formers, some girl threatening the physics teacher she’d accuse him of touching her for whatever reason. Another teacher had a woman following him at all times for most of the year while he was investigated after pulling one girl off another in a fight.
When I started work as a nursing assistant, on my very first day I was given the advice to never be in a situation where I can be accused of something especially by younger female patients. I still stick to that.
Everyone is at risk of this, why are we acting like children are worse than adults? Have you met adults?
And parents these days will go the path of least resistance on anything so they’ll always believe their precious angel.
As a male teacher i will say that you have to spend more time being cautious around the students than you’d think, especially female students.
I love my students, and I’m lucky that i have the skills necessary to establish a good working relationship with them that my classes usually go pretty smoothly, but there will be times where things don’t go so smoothly. Its the nature of the beast: you teach teenagers, its a difficult age and the added stress that school brings can make for a perfect storm.
I’ve dealt with difficult students before, and it has made me cynical in some ways, but i find that, generally, if you’re down to earth with them and you’re flexible you’ll have an easier time.
The problem with being male is that you have to be super careful when dealing with some students. Im not particularly attractive and i definitely don’t do anything that could be construed as being flirtatious, but some kids have some severe attachment issues and you become the father figure in their lives, which can lead to some uncomfortable situations. I had a student that refused to go to any class except mine and colleague’s (also male), i didnt treat this student any differently, but any kind of kindness can be misunderstood by a student in that situation. Its really sad, you wanna do your best by them but you know that they aren’t in a healthy situation.
I love teaching, i wish the Tories cared about teaching as much as I do, but there are times where you come close to the edge and you struggle with it. I’ve been doing this for nearly 10 years and I don’t see it getting any easier.
Reading all this, so glad I went with Home Ed. Kids are thriving, happy, part of a brilliant Home Ed community locally.
I was fucking miserable throughout secondary in the 90s.
At this point if I were a teacher I’d wear a discrete personal bodycam when on the clock with how much abuse comes their way.
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Friends a teacher. He was telling a kid off for misbehaving, threatening with detention and the kid said im going to tell the head teacher you hit me
School is really cruel, in my older years I’ve realised what a tosser I was in school and wish I could turn back time to be a better person. Teachers have it rough, and they’re paid very little for what they have to put up with.
I recall a teacher I really disliked in school being locked in a cupboard by her students, I found it hilarious at the time, and she didn’t return to school for months. I look back on it now in disgust.
That was going on over a decade ago in schools, I dread to think what it’s like now.
When police officers say they are at risk of unfounded allegations this sub doesn’t seem to have much sympathy…
It’s not just pupils, it’s parents too. My sister teaches and had a parent accuse her of all sorts of shit because she’d taken the side of another parent when their kids got in a fight. I mean, this parent literally waged war on her trying to get her sacked.
Everyone who works with children and young people, patients, prisoners, suspects etc… all of us are constantly at risk from unfounded allegations. I investigate them as part of my job. I have had them made against me. Believe me, I know how it feels to be on the receiving end. I don’t know what we do to improve things though- there is good reason why we take allegations seriously, suspend/ redeploy subjects, carry out full investigations. For so long the balance of power was so far weighted the other way, and abusers operated with impunity- who among us isn’t aware of non recent cases where the attitude was to dismiss and ignore allegations and leave victims vulnerable and abusers able to continue doing what they do? But at the same time, lives and health are ruined by false allegations, and the way we respond to them is well known by most, and weaponised. I genuinely don’t know what we need to do to get it right.
Reason 9001 to not be a teacher.
Sounds like one of the worst jobs out there, which is a shame because I bet when you have the right teacher with the right student, it’s probably one of the best, most rewarding jobs out there.
My dad was an assistant school caretaker around 2003, he told one of the teachers something like there was a couple of girls were bunking off a lesson smoking and they got in trouble.
A few days later they claimed he made sexual comments to them in their PE kit as they went past. Obviously the school had to investigate and he was questioned etc and sent home early.
IIRC when questioned a few students said the girls were being mouthy to him, he told them to piss off and walked away. After that he was working with other staff so had alibis.
The girls got something like 2 days detentions/suspension for something which could have had a massive impact on his life.
Mentioned on here about a family member who’s a teacher who broke up a fight to be accused of assaulting a kid while breaking up the fight.
Teachers have it rough and doesn’t help that kids know how to play them. A pupil can push a teacher around and basically get away with it. If a teacher were to pull a pupil out of the chair or push them out of the classroom, then they’d be in the shit.
I’m not saying teachers should be able to beat up kids but they need something. If a pupil refuses to get up and leave the classroom, then what can a teacher do? Get the head teacher and the kid still refuses, disrupting the lesson for the rest.
I have no idea why anybody would want to be a teacher in this day and age, maybe a primary school teacher but definitely not secondary.
My friend was a teacher and something like this happened to him. He quit after two years of teaching.
He had a class that were wild and very difficult to teach. They were all lovely as individuals but totally unsuitable for academia. No chance of passing their exams.
Anyway, he said he got on the wrong side of one of the pupils one day, and she would make comments, like “sir, I hate you”. He just thought she was joking because all he’d done was give her a small telling off for something stupid she’d done.
He said after a week, from the incident, he turned up to teach the class and half the class were missing. Turned out they were all being interviewed because the girl had made a serious complaint about him. She accused him of using sexual language.
He was a mess. Proper broke down because he really liked teaching them, despite the issues.
He was acquitted because the rest of the class basically said she was lying, but he was never allowed to teach that class again. The class were gutted, but that put him off teaching, and he got out after that. He could have had his career and reputation ruined because he pissed a kid off, and he was just trying to do his job.
I love being a teacher. Really, it’s such an amazing honour for me to be able to share history and knowledge with young people, and get paid to do it.
However, I’m currently off with stress, and have just been prescribed anti depressants. The school im in is run to the ground, the students aren’t even the worst part.
The only reason I haven’t changed careers yet is because I hope things will improve, I can’t imagine devoting my whole life to becoming a teacher, only to jack it in after a couple years.
That’s what happens when you can’t/ won’t/ don’t discipline kids properly. You get self entitled vicious little cunts who can get away with what they want. 2030/40/50s are gonna be scary place with them in charge.
The solution is easy, a camera and microphone in every classroom.
I remember in school some girl, in front of our class of sixth formers, some girl threatening the physics teacher she’d accuse him of touching her for whatever reason. Another teacher had a woman following him at all times for most of the year while he was investigated after pulling one girl off another in a fight.
When I started work as a nursing assistant, on my very first day I was given the advice to never be in a situation where I can be accused of something especially by younger female patients. I still stick to that.
Everyone is at risk of this, why are we acting like children are worse than adults? Have you met adults?
And parents these days will go the path of least resistance on anything so they’ll always believe their precious angel.
As a male teacher i will say that you have to spend more time being cautious around the students than you’d think, especially female students.
I love my students, and I’m lucky that i have the skills necessary to establish a good working relationship with them that my classes usually go pretty smoothly, but there will be times where things don’t go so smoothly. Its the nature of the beast: you teach teenagers, its a difficult age and the added stress that school brings can make for a perfect storm.
I’ve dealt with difficult students before, and it has made me cynical in some ways, but i find that, generally, if you’re down to earth with them and you’re flexible you’ll have an easier time.
The problem with being male is that you have to be super careful when dealing with some students. Im not particularly attractive and i definitely don’t do anything that could be construed as being flirtatious, but some kids have some severe attachment issues and you become the father figure in their lives, which can lead to some uncomfortable situations. I had a student that refused to go to any class except mine and colleague’s (also male), i didnt treat this student any differently, but any kind of kindness can be misunderstood by a student in that situation. Its really sad, you wanna do your best by them but you know that they aren’t in a healthy situation.
I love teaching, i wish the Tories cared about teaching as much as I do, but there are times where you come close to the edge and you struggle with it. I’ve been doing this for nearly 10 years and I don’t see it getting any easier.
Reading all this, so glad I went with Home Ed. Kids are thriving, happy, part of a brilliant Home Ed community locally.
I was fucking miserable throughout secondary in the 90s.
At this point if I were a teacher I’d wear a discrete personal bodycam when on the clock with how much abuse comes their way.