It’s got everyone I know so divided. Everyone has their own opinion on what this means and it’s just tearing up relationships left and right all around me. No one can agree on anything.
Where’s the breaking news to say deaths have been decreasing since mid November and studies have shown omicron is very mild with hospitalisations rarely needed.
The Tories aren’t going to do anything, so all we can do is hope the impact of these high cases will be minimal.
Time will tell.
Seems like we oscillate between reporting whichever metric sounds the scariest. Really, the news should be the extremely low hospitalisation rate and the even lower death rate.
Faith in corporate media is already at an all time low and steadily decreasing. If we don’t get some quality, trustworthy journalism soon, it’ll only hasten the development of two parallel societies.
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Cases schmases. How many are in hospital? How many are actually feeling ill?
Except now it’s pretty much a mild cold for most people so meh.
Oh look, the media once again posting figures without context as its appears to be more frightening than reality.
The British Media have done everything they can to fuel anti vaxxing feelings in this country.
The level of irresponsible reporting since the Pandemic started has been staggering.
When you have the media screaming that we are going to see thousands die and then nothing it only pushes more people towards not getting a vaccine.
Fucking wankers, the lot of them
If we have any sense this is the end of the pandemic.
This many people testing positive, having to isolate and ruin xmas for what is now essentially a cold, should hopefully mean the appetite for any restrictions and the obsession with cases is over.
On a slightly related note, does anyone else find themselves now surrounded by extremes on each side? I’m talking about the lockdown advocates and the anti vaxxers of course.
Weird that they stopped talking about lethality all of a sudden…
Obviously bad news (and +15k on the day before). I’ve estimated before that, if Omicron is a similar severity to Delta, we could have around 150k cases per day before we started to have serious problems – that’s starting to get close to that.
The most important number is hospitalisations and that went up as well. However, if the study linked yesterday is accurate and the average length of hospital stay is much shorter for Omicron, that can go up significantly more and still be ok.
As long as the death rate is low, and the deaths are not vaccinated i don’t see why we should lock down really. Just get as many people boosted and go with it. If we were going to lock down we should have already done at the start of December, so let’s just ride it out now.
Why all the media keep shouting about number of cases?
Death rate and hospitalisation are stable and at low level. Boosters distribution is going well. Live should goes on. Thanks very much.
Well im fucking fuming regardless.
This will be the 3rd year ive missed out on christmas, all while them cunts had their cheese & wine i was isolating at home, well i broke up from work yesterday and tested positive 6 hours later.
Fucking honestly sick of this shit, its spreading like wildfire and no1 seems to give a fuck.
Regardless of hospitalisations they and we as a country need to decide how the fuck we are going to move forward with this. Because at the moment the government tell us one thing while doing the other and the ‘restrictions’ seem to be doing nothing to stop the spread.
Given that we’re requiring lateral flow tests for entry to night clubs and indoor events, and that people will take tests before visiting family for Christmas, wouldn’t it make sense that we’d see a big spike in tests in the 48 hours before Christmas Eve?
Well, what’s the point in giving us these vaccines if they’re going to keep threatening us with lockdowns and restrictions again? Covid is never going to go away. Most of these people who have recently contracted it will make a full recovery, it does NOT mean deaths
We can’t spend the rest of humankind going in and out of lockdown when illnesses spike every few months.
So many opinions / critics ,yet that shit keeps spreading , democracy sucks at dealing with virus
It’s all really sad.
There’s some things that just shouldn’t be weaponised for ‘culture war’ purposes.
I would bet that the actual figure is way higher, maybe 5 or 10 times that number, because most of these will be PCR tests, not Lateral Flow tests. I know people are supposed to register a positive LF test online, but how many people do you think have bothered to do that, especially when they see how Bojo and his clowns are (and have been) behaving.
Round my way everywhere is sold out of Lateral Flow tests, and I am betting it is the same everywhere. I bet hundreds of thousands of people have taken a test, got a positive and been more worried about that than any registering it online stuff. Missing work and family at Christmas is obviously going to be a bigger concern too.
If so, then the case/hospitalisation ratio is clearly much lower, as is the case/deaths ratio, which would be a good thing.
And to read it is mostly the unvaccinated, non-mask wearing asshats who are now taking space in hospital is making me fume? You wouldn’t wear a mask cause you couldn’t breathe? Fuck off with that shit. We have to wear them at work, I work in a bread factory, I am the person who takes it out of the oven which is open at each end and 225 degrees C in the middle. It is fucking hot, my breath is warm on my face, and it is not very comfortable at all, but we still wear them and can work, and breathe, so put your mask on and stop lying and being a dick.
I need to repeat this answer here.
The reason why covid is a bad thing, even if vaccine uptake is high, is that it occupies hospital beds and key medical resources.
So, last winter for example – when the NHS was in meltdown, say you had an unrelated illness, IE broken leg, how much longer would it have taken to be seen?
Imagine that with every condition.
Lastly, the more we exhaust our NHS staff with this pandemic (long hours, many deaths, low salary), the less inclined they are to be sticking around. I mean with the sheer volume of death, I’d be surprised if many working in the health field don’t have some form of PTSD.
This is what the future looks like until we allocate more resources to the NHS, and/or find practical ways to treat covid without hospitalisation.
I currently have COVID and know so many people right now who have it.
My boyfriend who lives with me also has pretty clear cut symptoms but hasn’t taken a test because it’s pretty obvious and he shouldn’t be going out. I think others would have the same issue.
I had negative Lateral flow test but positive PCR.
We need to stop focusing so much on coronavirus cases, it’s the number of hospital admissions that is really important.
Hospital admissions at the end of last week / beginning of this week are still lower than at the end of October, and half that of Nov 2020.
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It’s got everyone I know so divided. Everyone has their own opinion on what this means and it’s just tearing up relationships left and right all around me. No one can agree on anything.
Where’s the breaking news to say deaths have been decreasing since mid November and studies have shown omicron is very mild with hospitalisations rarely needed.
The Tories aren’t going to do anything, so all we can do is hope the impact of these high cases will be minimal.
Time will tell.
Seems like we oscillate between reporting whichever metric sounds the scariest. Really, the news should be the extremely low hospitalisation rate and the even lower death rate.
Faith in corporate media is already at an all time low and steadily decreasing. If we don’t get some quality, trustworthy journalism soon, it’ll only hasten the development of two parallel societies.
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Cases schmases. How many are in hospital? How many are actually feeling ill?
Except now it’s pretty much a mild cold for most people so meh.
Oh look, the media once again posting figures without context as its appears to be more frightening than reality.
The British Media have done everything they can to fuel anti vaxxing feelings in this country.
The level of irresponsible reporting since the Pandemic started has been staggering.
When you have the media screaming that we are going to see thousands die and then nothing it only pushes more people towards not getting a vaccine.
Fucking wankers, the lot of them
If we have any sense this is the end of the pandemic.
This many people testing positive, having to isolate and ruin xmas for what is now essentially a cold, should hopefully mean the appetite for any restrictions and the obsession with cases is over.
On a slightly related note, does anyone else find themselves now surrounded by extremes on each side? I’m talking about the lockdown advocates and the anti vaxxers of course.
Weird that they stopped talking about lethality all of a sudden…
Obviously bad news (and +15k on the day before). I’ve estimated before that, if Omicron is a similar severity to Delta, we could have around 150k cases per day before we started to have serious problems – that’s starting to get close to that.
The most important number is hospitalisations and that went up as well. However, if the study linked yesterday is accurate and the average length of hospital stay is much shorter for Omicron, that can go up significantly more and still be ok.
As long as the death rate is low, and the deaths are not vaccinated i don’t see why we should lock down really. Just get as many people boosted and go with it. If we were going to lock down we should have already done at the start of December, so let’s just ride it out now.
Why all the media keep shouting about number of cases?
Death rate and hospitalisation are stable and at low level. Boosters distribution is going well. Live should goes on. Thanks very much.
Well im fucking fuming regardless.
This will be the 3rd year ive missed out on christmas, all while them cunts had their cheese & wine i was isolating at home, well i broke up from work yesterday and tested positive 6 hours later.
Fucking honestly sick of this shit, its spreading like wildfire and no1 seems to give a fuck.
Regardless of hospitalisations they and we as a country need to decide how the fuck we are going to move forward with this. Because at the moment the government tell us one thing while doing the other and the ‘restrictions’ seem to be doing nothing to stop the spread.
Given that we’re requiring lateral flow tests for entry to night clubs and indoor events, and that people will take tests before visiting family for Christmas, wouldn’t it make sense that we’d see a big spike in tests in the 48 hours before Christmas Eve?
Well, what’s the point in giving us these vaccines if they’re going to keep threatening us with lockdowns and restrictions again? Covid is never going to go away. Most of these people who have recently contracted it will make a full recovery, it does NOT mean deaths
We can’t spend the rest of humankind going in and out of lockdown when illnesses spike every few months.
So many opinions / critics ,yet that shit keeps spreading , democracy sucks at dealing with virus
It’s all really sad.
There’s some things that just shouldn’t be weaponised for ‘culture war’ purposes.
I would bet that the actual figure is way higher, maybe 5 or 10 times that number, because most of these will be PCR tests, not Lateral Flow tests. I know people are supposed to register a positive LF test online, but how many people do you think have bothered to do that, especially when they see how Bojo and his clowns are (and have been) behaving.
Round my way everywhere is sold out of Lateral Flow tests, and I am betting it is the same everywhere. I bet hundreds of thousands of people have taken a test, got a positive and been more worried about that than any registering it online stuff. Missing work and family at Christmas is obviously going to be a bigger concern too.
If so, then the case/hospitalisation ratio is clearly much lower, as is the case/deaths ratio, which would be a good thing.
And to read it is mostly the unvaccinated, non-mask wearing asshats who are now taking space in hospital is making me fume? You wouldn’t wear a mask cause you couldn’t breathe? Fuck off with that shit. We have to wear them at work, I work in a bread factory, I am the person who takes it out of the oven which is open at each end and 225 degrees C in the middle. It is fucking hot, my breath is warm on my face, and it is not very comfortable at all, but we still wear them and can work, and breathe, so put your mask on and stop lying and being a dick.
I need to repeat this answer here.
The reason why covid is a bad thing, even if vaccine uptake is high, is that it occupies hospital beds and key medical resources.
So, last winter for example – when the NHS was in meltdown, say you had an unrelated illness, IE broken leg, how much longer would it have taken to be seen?
Imagine that with every condition.
Lastly, the more we exhaust our NHS staff with this pandemic (long hours, many deaths, low salary), the less inclined they are to be sticking around. I mean with the sheer volume of death, I’d be surprised if many working in the health field don’t have some form of PTSD.
This is what the future looks like until we allocate more resources to the NHS, and/or find practical ways to treat covid without hospitalisation.
I currently have COVID and know so many people right now who have it.
My boyfriend who lives with me also has pretty clear cut symptoms but hasn’t taken a test because it’s pretty obvious and he shouldn’t be going out. I think others would have the same issue.
I had negative Lateral flow test but positive PCR.
We need to stop focusing so much on coronavirus cases, it’s the number of hospital admissions that is really important.
Hospital admissions at the end of last week / beginning of this week are still lower than at the end of October, and half that of Nov 2020.
[https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/uk-daily-covid-admissions](https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/uk-daily-covid-admissions)