It’s interesting that the race categories for England and Wales are much more specific than those for the us.
I think a lot of white people in the UK, especially men, feel like they have no reason to live. They have no prospects, no motivation and feel completely futile.
Makes sense if you consider that many black Brittons are immigrants from highly preselected group of people or children of said immigrants.
[It seems as if the poverty rates in the UK aren’t as important as the regional north-south divide.](https://www.statista.com/study/89363/inequality-in-the-uk/) All ethnic minorities in the UK have higher unemployment rates, most earn significantly less than the white, asian, Indian and especially Irish population. But most of them life in London and it’s much better for your life expectancy to be poor in London than having to live in e.g. Glasgow.
I can’t say for sure this is the reason for the discrepancy between black Americans and black britons as I haven’t done enough research but I know Black americans seem to be prone to high blood pressure. There are hypothesis about Black Americans being more sensitive to salt, and respond less to blood pressure medications.
Also not having socialized medicine that puts a focus on prevention over treatment, we Americans are have to be more responsible about our own health and I’m not sure we are properly educated to check our health markers very often. There are countless famous black Americans who die suddenly from things like strokes and heart attacks that are caused by high blood pressure.
Does it show that England & Wales are systematically racist Black Supremacist nations and the US is systematically racist Asian Supremacist?
For me, the big takeaway of this (and the similar post earlier today) is that whatever statistics you have from the US, you can’t just assume that they also hold for the UK (or any other place, really).
So caucasians have the lowest life expectancy in the UK? Why is that? Are there specific measures taken to adress it?
Graph does not represent wages and life expectancy according to education levels. It’s not inequality, it’s a difference in cultural importance on education.
*butterfly meme* is this racism?
You mean, diversity is *not* the reason the US has a lower life expectancy than EU/EEA/UK countries?
The results are surprising because you normally expect life expectancy to correlate with wealth, and yet the opposite seems to be true here.
Based on that report it looks like the explanation is cancer and heart disease.
White people seem to be more likely to die of cancer. Much more likely. Indian, Pakistani and Bangladeshi groups have high mortality rates from circulatory disease.
“Black African” has the lowest mortality rate for circulatory disease and pretty low for cancer, so ends up with the longest life expectancy.
Our daily “US is bad” post
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Difference is 1-2 years approx.
I don’t see the giant deal?
Whjat hte fak is the arrow on white epople? why other people not have arrow? what is the meaning on arrow???
only 1 human race
Whites are the only group in the US whose life expectancy hasn’t recovered post-Covid. It’s been mainly attributed to the opioid epidemic ravaging middle America.
Black Africans in the US have similar stats.
One can’t compare a successful immigrant demographic to black Americans
There are so many other variables to consider that it is irresponsible to make any claim from this tiny bit of information.
Guess I’ll have to cancel my plans to move to the US for that ‘American Dream’ of a shorter life expectancy.
>Black Britons live linger than white Britons, in stark contrast to the US
So “equality” is when minority lives better than majority now?
This is kind of bullshit. If you look at African migrant data in the US, it is similar to the UK. Especially Nigeria and Kenya. The UK does not have an equivalent to the Black American population because the UK only did slavery outside its domestic borders.
1st/2nd gen immigrants (but perhaps not refugees?) often value hard work, education and community, which might make them live healthier.
So what
There is no way blacks live this long in the US. Most in the inner cities don’t make it out of their teens.
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It’s interesting that the race categories for England and Wales are much more specific than those for the us.
I think a lot of white people in the UK, especially men, feel like they have no reason to live. They have no prospects, no motivation and feel completely futile.
Makes sense if you consider that many black Brittons are immigrants from highly preselected group of people or children of said immigrants.
In the US a quick look at [poverty rates per ethnic group](https://www.statista.com/statistics/200476/us-poverty-rate-by-ethnic-group/) shows a remarkably similar trend as the life expectancy shown here.
[It seems as if the poverty rates in the UK aren’t as important as the regional north-south divide.](https://www.statista.com/study/89363/inequality-in-the-uk/) All ethnic minorities in the UK have higher unemployment rates, most earn significantly less than the white, asian, Indian and especially Irish population. But most of them life in London and it’s much better for your life expectancy to be poor in London than having to live in e.g. Glasgow.
I can’t say for sure this is the reason for the discrepancy between black Americans and black britons as I haven’t done enough research but I know Black americans seem to be prone to high blood pressure. There are hypothesis about Black Americans being more sensitive to salt, and respond less to blood pressure medications.
Also not having socialized medicine that puts a focus on prevention over treatment, we Americans are have to be more responsible about our own health and I’m not sure we are properly educated to check our health markers very often. There are countless famous black Americans who die suddenly from things like strokes and heart attacks that are caused by high blood pressure.
Does it show that England & Wales are systematically racist Black Supremacist nations and the US is systematically racist Asian Supremacist?
For me, the big takeaway of this (and the similar post earlier today) is that whatever statistics you have from the US, you can’t just assume that they also hold for the UK (or any other place, really).
So caucasians have the lowest life expectancy in the UK? Why is that? Are there specific measures taken to adress it?
Graph does not represent wages and life expectancy according to education levels. It’s not inequality, it’s a difference in cultural importance on education.
*butterfly meme* is this racism?
You mean, diversity is *not* the reason the US has a lower life expectancy than EU/EEA/UK countries?
It looks like the UK data might be based on this from the ONS: [Ethnic differences in life expectancy and mortality from selected causes in England and Wales: 2011 to 2014](https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/lifeexpectancies/articles/ethnicdifferencesinlifeexpectancyandmortalityfromselectedcausesinenglandandwales/2011to2014)
The results are surprising because you normally expect life expectancy to correlate with wealth, and yet the opposite seems to be true here.
Based on that report it looks like the explanation is cancer and heart disease.
White people seem to be more likely to die of cancer. Much more likely. Indian, Pakistani and Bangladeshi groups have high mortality rates from circulatory disease.
“Black African” has the lowest mortality rate for circulatory disease and pretty low for cancer, so ends up with the longest life expectancy.
Our daily “US is bad” post
—
Difference is 1-2 years approx.
I don’t see the giant deal?
Whjat hte fak is the arrow on white epople? why other people not have arrow? what is the meaning on arrow???
only 1 human race
Whites are the only group in the US whose life expectancy hasn’t recovered post-Covid. It’s been mainly attributed to the opioid epidemic ravaging middle America.
Black Africans in the US have similar stats.
One can’t compare a successful immigrant demographic to black Americans
There are so many other variables to consider that it is irresponsible to make any claim from this tiny bit of information.
Guess I’ll have to cancel my plans to move to the US for that ‘American Dream’ of a shorter life expectancy.
>Black Britons live linger than white Britons, in stark contrast to the US
So “equality” is when minority lives better than majority now?
This is kind of bullshit. If you look at African migrant data in the US, it is similar to the UK. Especially Nigeria and Kenya. The UK does not have an equivalent to the Black American population because the UK only did slavery outside its domestic borders.
1st/2nd gen immigrants (but perhaps not refugees?) often value hard work, education and community, which might make them live healthier.
So what
There is no way blacks live this long in the US. Most in the inner cities don’t make it out of their teens.