My understanding, and the Health Minister has been saying this for a while, is that the rule doesn’t apply to importers themselves but to those who import *and then sell*. The label has to be affixed before the point of sale.
This was the argument that Ireland used when this came up to say that it doesn’t have any impact for the free movement of goods in the EU. The argument in return from industry is that this is a stupid argument from people who don’t understand logistics, and the label will have to be put on at the point of bottling otherwise you’re talking about ripping open cases, removing multi packs from their containers, etc.
What’s the plan here? Are they going to put pictures on cans like on packs of cigarettes?
This is such a clickbait headline as is par for those course nowadays.
>Speaking on RTÉ radio, he said: “There was a concern raised, for example, let’s say a small producer in Italy, would they stop sending a product into Ireland because they’d have to create a bespoke label?
>“The answer is no, they don’t. They can export and we can import a product that doesn’t contain the warning, and then a sticker is simply put on it in Ireland.”
I think it’s a bit of a bullshit excuse as to why this is the case though. that it’s for smaller breweries. I’m assuming large companies like Diageo or Pernod Ricard basically didn’t want the extra expense and lobbied them to death but whatever.
This new policy seems like a small step in the right direction. Not the killer that it’s being presented as, but a nice small step.
“Speaking on RTÉ radio, he said: “There was a concern raised, for example, let’s say a small producer in Italy, would they stop sending a product into Ireland because they’d have to create a bespoke label?
“The answer is no, they don’t. They can export and we can import a product that doesn’t contain the warning, and then a sticker is simply put on it in Ireland.””
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It’s just a label on a product that you’re already labelling 🤷♂️ change your artwork, off you go. It’s hardly a big onerous demand.
Will the rule apply to bottle sold in bars and restaurants? Bar staff will spend their days applying labels to bottles.
3 years and half most alcohol here is imported. A completely pointless and expensive exercise
Will my pint glass come with a warning ⚠️. ?
How will I know that any drinks served in a bar/restaurant are bad for my health if it’s served in a glass?
Does this mean that it’s not bad for health if my drink doesn’t have a warning on the glass.
If I spend more than €9.50 on a meal with my drink does that make it good for my health?
So is it only bad for my health if I’m buying from an off licence and drinking at home?
So many questions
Does small cocaine bags going to get labels as well ?
This step is just nonsense. If alcohol is such a problem ban it. Wait a minute….
This is just getting sillier with each soundbite.
So an importer in Ireland brings in beer or wine from the continent. They have to get the details of the kcal of the beverage (which might not be forthcoming) (cost), open the packages (cost), apply labels (cost), repackage (cost), distribute.
Notice the common theme here – cost.
This will only serve to lessen consumer choice here, especially for niche craft beer & wine.
While I’m not against this I can’t see this being easy. I can definitely see small distilleries both imported and home grown being the more negatively affected. Getting the info in the first place is a cost then having to switch out their pre existing labels or apply new ones. While I can’t see it happening, if it ever went to stage of cigarette packaging I’d be out of a job lol.
Not to be that person but, we’re essentially going to put single use stickers on EACH individual bottle and can that is stocked on supermarket and off license shelves? This government is deluded. Imagine how long that would take the average person who works in these sectors to do
Stupid nanny stating. Sure why don’t we ban everything except water and salad leafs? Our bodies are not ment to live forever so enjoy it and destroy it and die happy instead of a miserable bore.
Clown
What about the environment? All of these labels will use a ton of paper over time, then the added cost to the consumer. I just want to enjoy a nice bottle of wine without being ripped off.
I mean of all the problems, let alone all the problems under his Ministry and this mongo actually goes after putting fucking labels on cans and bottles of beer. Is he having a fucking laugh? Here is one for you, you absolute mongo how about looking at the chronic waiting lists or shortage of doctors in the healthcare system. Fucking hell.
Absolute embarrassment. This is Tony Holohans legacy. This and the cervical cancer scandal.
This is the plastic straw bollocks all over again. Much hype about a thing that is not proven to help anyone.
And STILL no requirement for an ingredients list, like most other consumables. I read this is due to wine lobbys in the EU, scared to reveal the watering down and use of sugars and flavourings. Just like bulmers here would be around the bare minimum requirement of apple juice to legally call themselves cider.
The should simply be made have the info available online, like manufacturers of machines can get away with directing people towards websites.
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My understanding, and the Health Minister has been saying this for a while, is that the rule doesn’t apply to importers themselves but to those who import *and then sell*. The label has to be affixed before the point of sale.
This was the argument that Ireland used when this came up to say that it doesn’t have any impact for the free movement of goods in the EU. The argument in return from industry is that this is a stupid argument from people who don’t understand logistics, and the label will have to be put on at the point of bottling otherwise you’re talking about ripping open cases, removing multi packs from their containers, etc.
What’s the plan here? Are they going to put pictures on cans like on packs of cigarettes?
This is such a clickbait headline as is par for those course nowadays.
>Speaking on RTÉ radio, he said: “There was a concern raised, for example, let’s say a small producer in Italy, would they stop sending a product into Ireland because they’d have to create a bespoke label?
>“The answer is no, they don’t. They can export and we can import a product that doesn’t contain the warning, and then a sticker is simply put on it in Ireland.”
I think it’s a bit of a bullshit excuse as to why this is the case though. that it’s for smaller breweries. I’m assuming large companies like Diageo or Pernod Ricard basically didn’t want the extra expense and lobbied them to death but whatever.
This new policy seems like a small step in the right direction. Not the killer that it’s being presented as, but a nice small step.
“Speaking on RTÉ radio, he said: “There was a concern raised, for example, let’s say a small producer in Italy, would they stop sending a product into Ireland because they’d have to create a bespoke label?
“The answer is no, they don’t. They can export and we can import a product that doesn’t contain the warning, and then a sticker is simply put on it in Ireland.””
Article has been archived on archive.is
[deleted]
It’s just a label on a product that you’re already labelling 🤷♂️ change your artwork, off you go. It’s hardly a big onerous demand.
Will the rule apply to bottle sold in bars and restaurants? Bar staff will spend their days applying labels to bottles.
3 years and half most alcohol here is imported. A completely pointless and expensive exercise
Will my pint glass come with a warning ⚠️. ?
How will I know that any drinks served in a bar/restaurant are bad for my health if it’s served in a glass?
Does this mean that it’s not bad for health if my drink doesn’t have a warning on the glass.
If I spend more than €9.50 on a meal with my drink does that make it good for my health?
So is it only bad for my health if I’m buying from an off licence and drinking at home?
So many questions
Does small cocaine bags going to get labels as well ?
This step is just nonsense. If alcohol is such a problem ban it. Wait a minute….
This is just getting sillier with each soundbite.
So an importer in Ireland brings in beer or wine from the continent. They have to get the details of the kcal of the beverage (which might not be forthcoming) (cost), open the packages (cost), apply labels (cost), repackage (cost), distribute.
Notice the common theme here – cost.
This will only serve to lessen consumer choice here, especially for niche craft beer & wine.
While I’m not against this I can’t see this being easy. I can definitely see small distilleries both imported and home grown being the more negatively affected. Getting the info in the first place is a cost then having to switch out their pre existing labels or apply new ones. While I can’t see it happening, if it ever went to stage of cigarette packaging I’d be out of a job lol.
Not to be that person but, we’re essentially going to put single use stickers on EACH individual bottle and can that is stocked on supermarket and off license shelves? This government is deluded. Imagine how long that would take the average person who works in these sectors to do
Stupid nanny stating. Sure why don’t we ban everything except water and salad leafs? Our bodies are not ment to live forever so enjoy it and destroy it and die happy instead of a miserable bore.
Clown
What about the environment? All of these labels will use a ton of paper over time, then the added cost to the consumer. I just want to enjoy a nice bottle of wine without being ripped off.
I mean of all the problems, let alone all the problems under his Ministry and this mongo actually goes after putting fucking labels on cans and bottles of beer. Is he having a fucking laugh? Here is one for you, you absolute mongo how about looking at the chronic waiting lists or shortage of doctors in the healthcare system. Fucking hell.
Absolute embarrassment. This is Tony Holohans legacy. This and the cervical cancer scandal.
This is the plastic straw bollocks all over again. Much hype about a thing that is not proven to help anyone.
And STILL no requirement for an ingredients list, like most other consumables. I read this is due to wine lobbys in the EU, scared to reveal the watering down and use of sugars and flavourings. Just like bulmers here would be around the bare minimum requirement of apple juice to legally call themselves cider.
The should simply be made have the info available online, like manufacturers of machines can get away with directing people towards websites.