I’m honestly surprised that the US recognized this Holocaust, and it was W that made it official. They still won’t acknowledge the genocide of slavery or manifest destiny.
Well done, and about time–Stalin’s genocidal policies must never be forgotten
Why is it UK’s role to recognize global genocides. Maybe we should just mind our business.
Regardless of whether or not it’s just, I think it’s pretty cynical to only recognise genocide once it becomes a tool to oppose an enemy. If they are recognising it now then it says that they believed it before and let it slide until it could be used for political gain. Its especially problematic when our nation hasn’t recognised some cases of its own history of genocide.
Genocide is the worst crime that can be committed, let’s not politicise it. I saw someone on the Europe sub mention that Finland doesn’t officially recognise genocides because they view those cases as immutable historic fact that doesn’t need to be politicised, I think that is a better way of viewing it.
Bizzare. Quite a lot of historians argue against this.
Letting modern politics taint the perception of history is just bad history.
Stalin’s forced deportations of the Inguish, Chechens etc aren’t considered genocide by the UK and nobody is campaigning for it to be, even thought the entire point of them was to weaken those cultural identities…on the surface it sounds more like textbook genocide than the Holodomor. Ukraine recognised it as one in 2022 (probably motivated by modern politics there).
7 comments
[removed]
I’m honestly surprised that the US recognized this Holocaust, and it was W that made it official. They still won’t acknowledge the genocide of slavery or manifest destiny.
Well done, and about time–Stalin’s genocidal policies must never be forgotten
Why is it UK’s role to recognize global genocides. Maybe we should just mind our business.
Regardless of whether or not it’s just, I think it’s pretty cynical to only recognise genocide once it becomes a tool to oppose an enemy. If they are recognising it now then it says that they believed it before and let it slide until it could be used for political gain. Its especially problematic when our nation hasn’t recognised some cases of its own history of genocide.
Genocide is the worst crime that can be committed, let’s not politicise it. I saw someone on the Europe sub mention that Finland doesn’t officially recognise genocides because they view those cases as immutable historic fact that doesn’t need to be politicised, I think that is a better way of viewing it.
Bizzare. Quite a lot of historians argue against this.
But here (written two days ago, same day as the Kyiv Independent article) it says the UK doesn’t recognise the Holodomor as a genocide and that the UK considers the recognition of genocides as a matter for courts to decide and not for governments or politicians. So the Kyiv paper is full of shit? https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cdp-2023-0112/#:~:text=The%20UK%20therefore%20only%20recognises,)%20and%20Rwanda%20(1994).
Letting modern politics taint the perception of history is just bad history.
Stalin’s forced deportations of the Inguish, Chechens etc aren’t considered genocide by the UK and nobody is campaigning for it to be, even thought the entire point of them was to weaken those cultural identities…on the surface it sounds more like textbook genocide than the Holodomor. Ukraine recognised it as one in 2022 (probably motivated by modern politics there).