The health warning is probably a bit much. We all know the health risks.
The calorie content is welcome though
Does that mean they can eliminate MUP now? Oh wait, that was just a favour for the politicians publican friends.
I hope the warning label says “excessive use of alcohol can lead to buying a bag of coke, and that’s where the problems really start”
Seems like regulation so they can be seen to be doing something. Like the minimum unit pricing. Why not put the time and effort into making mental health services more accessible? Oh no, the label will solve it.
Will anyone actually read these labels though?
If you stick a fork in your eye you could lose your vision. We’ll have to get labels made up.
Nanny state. Nobody picks up 8 cans of Guinness for the health benefits. Everyone has Google nowadays too. Takes 10 seconds to find out if you want to.
I hope this doesn’t take a load of foreign imports off the market. I don’t see small foreign producers carving out exceptions in their labelling specifically for our market.
This just strikes me as an annoying regulation that makes it more difficult to sell in Ireland just to communicate info that’s already well known thanks to effective messaging by organisations like Drinkaware.
I doubt it’ll make people drink less – but it may leave people with fewer options.
Would be nice to get the calorie content on there. Starting paying more attention to my calorie intake recently and it would be nice to be able to have a drink and know this info without having to google it.
Jaysis. At a certain point the health authorities will just have to accept- we like to drink
So i presume calories and health warnings will be on pint glasses in pubs or on pub walls as well? and that the Irish government will stop alcohol advertising, sponsorship *and* soft promotion of alcohol in tourist/cultural promotions? also you´d presume the same discussions of cancer can be had about loads of things and products no? Wheres the cancer warning on the McDonalds box? wheres the large cancer warning/calorie count on a box of rashers or heavily subsidised and promoted red meat? both items as cancer causing as alcohol.
otherwise its just tokenist, hypocritical bullshit.
I personally have no issue with it.. however i do with the clear division of blame/responsibility. Pub=good and a money maker , home drinking = is the devil – its utter horseshit. just as many alcoholics in pubs or fine dining restaurants. The French have some of the highest liver cancer numbers in the World. a few good burgundys drank in plenty of non home situations. i drink a fair bit. i realise i´m taking a risk. by just being alive i take normal risks every single day. 1.35 million , globally, die every year from road deaths. the figure for alcohol is 2.07 million. obvs the latter causes some of the former.
I imagine like the smoking bans, this will become the norm across the EU (where alcoholism is huge) and the nanny staters can give themselves a clap on the back, while they quaff down their discounted pints and fine reds. calorie count is a good thing really.again though, should be mandatory for loads of stuff.
HYprocisy leads to apathy. *power* increases moral *hypocrisy.* No power can be maintained when it is only represented by hypocrites. the publicans /lobby/government are utter hypocrites here. I have no doubt that the government would be lobbying other jurisdictions if these labels were brought in with Guinness, travel alerts for tourists visiting pubs or our ever growing whisky industry. its morally bankrupt in my opinion and attacking Joe Soap with his wine or beer at home, while he or she has broke their backs for their corporate masters and payed their tax for the drink, the very corporate entities that fuel so much of the hypocrisy is going to lead to major apathy and resentment. which will lead to a future rejection of much needed reforms. the very thing we are already seeing with climate action.
this naked (easily identifiable due to the internet) hypocrisy creates an apathy and wariness of the issue. very similar to what we are seeing with green/climate awareness.
TLDR – just loads of hypocrisy as usual. clear as day in an internet relatable society. Individuals are not the cause – corporations are. Put cancer warnings on Mcdonalds and the rest. Put it on pint glasses and stop the soft promotion of Ireland as a drinking destination if you´re that concerned.
If you buy any food or (non-alcoholic) drink at the shops, it will include calorie content on the label. It’s been that way for years. What’s the big deal?
jesus, what a waste of time. The best drink related policy I’ve heard of was when they tried to bring in the wine bars in the 00s to change our culture. The publicans blocked it though.
Dear Adults, we’re here to hold your hand at every stage.
Sincerely,
The Government.
Regulate me harder daddy
Buying a High Ball in Japan with no sugar, just a can of sparkling water with whiskey or scotch. Very nice. 7% alcohol.
240 calories in a 500ml can.
What the fuck calories am I taking in when I destroy a 70cl bottle of whiskey over a weekend.
Edit: added the can ml
Very happy to welcome Calorie Content on alcohol. As someone trying to lose some weight for health reasons, it sucks having to guess the calories in alcohol. I’d like to enjoy a pint or a bottle wine without guessing how many is in it. All other food stuff have the calories and nutrients listed.
I fail to see the problem so many people are seeing here. It’s literally just putting information that should be there, like every other packaged food or beverage. Yeah there’s the health warning too, like cigarettes, but who cares.
I might get down voted to hell for stating the next thing, it might be cultural, but in France the default beer size is 33cl. When you want to drink a beer, you drink an “unit” of beer, not an “amount”. You drink one beer, not specifically 50cl. If you start to sell more 33cl packaged things, you drive down consumption of a large part of the drinking population, who also pays less. Of course that’d come against the wishes of beer selling companies because less profit.
The real “nany” laws are the ones fixing the prices, raising taxes, limited hours… one or two more laws like that and it’ll be harder to buy booze here than guns in the USA
The calorie content thing is good, I think some people don’t realize how crazy high in calories alcohol is. I noticed some vodka I got in Aldi has the calorie content labelled and it’s a lot
I welcome this and don’t think this is a nanny state gone mad. It gives you the information and warns you about the risks; from there on, it’s up to you to make this decision. A nanny state would take away and ban things or punish you for using them. Plenty of examples of a nanny state gone mad in Ireland, like the MUP and reactionary policies like additional taxes or lazy bans.
Comparison to steak and rashers is a bit stretched because the benefits-risk ratio of food, even the “bad food”, outweighs the benefits-risk ratio of alcohol. Plus, you already have traffic light colour warnings and nutritional values on food packaging.
Also, I am sure this will have a knock-on effect on people’s attitudes towards alcohol in pubs, even though there will be no warning labels on pints and glasses.
How is this different from putting labels on cigarettes? Studies have shown that people weren’t fully aware of all the risks associated with smoking, and the labels helped increase smokers’ likelihood of quitting.
Hard agree on the calorie content. Nothing that enters the stomach of a human being, for sale commercially, should fail to include that information.
Honestly the fact that alcohol is exempt from a bunch of labelling rules that apply to literally every other mass produced food items is really weird.
Even this law doesn’t seem to bring alcohol into line with all other food since it only focuses on calories, not the rest of the nutritional information.
That calorie content is gonna hurt a lot.
Our government has decided not to solve any big structural or social problems, so they invent non problems to solve instead.
Now that we as a people are warned about the dangers of alchohol and caloric content, can we buy it in the mornings yet, like adults…
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How long till Italy threaten to invade
The health warning is probably a bit much. We all know the health risks.
The calorie content is welcome though
Does that mean they can eliminate MUP now? Oh wait, that was just a favour for the politicians publican friends.
I hope the warning label says “excessive use of alcohol can lead to buying a bag of coke, and that’s where the problems really start”
Seems like regulation so they can be seen to be doing something. Like the minimum unit pricing. Why not put the time and effort into making mental health services more accessible? Oh no, the label will solve it.
Will anyone actually read these labels though?
If you stick a fork in your eye you could lose your vision. We’ll have to get labels made up.
Nanny state. Nobody picks up 8 cans of Guinness for the health benefits. Everyone has Google nowadays too. Takes 10 seconds to find out if you want to.
I hope this doesn’t take a load of foreign imports off the market. I don’t see small foreign producers carving out exceptions in their labelling specifically for our market.
This just strikes me as an annoying regulation that makes it more difficult to sell in Ireland just to communicate info that’s already well known thanks to effective messaging by organisations like Drinkaware.
I doubt it’ll make people drink less – but it may leave people with fewer options.
Would be nice to get the calorie content on there. Starting paying more attention to my calorie intake recently and it would be nice to be able to have a drink and know this info without having to google it.
Jaysis. At a certain point the health authorities will just have to accept- we like to drink
So i presume calories and health warnings will be on pint glasses in pubs or on pub walls as well? and that the Irish government will stop alcohol advertising, sponsorship *and* soft promotion of alcohol in tourist/cultural promotions? also you´d presume the same discussions of cancer can be had about loads of things and products no? Wheres the cancer warning on the McDonalds box? wheres the large cancer warning/calorie count on a box of rashers or heavily subsidised and promoted red meat? both items as cancer causing as alcohol.
otherwise its just tokenist, hypocritical bullshit.
I personally have no issue with it.. however i do with the clear division of blame/responsibility. Pub=good and a money maker , home drinking = is the devil – its utter horseshit. just as many alcoholics in pubs or fine dining restaurants. The French have some of the highest liver cancer numbers in the World. a few good burgundys drank in plenty of non home situations. i drink a fair bit. i realise i´m taking a risk. by just being alive i take normal risks every single day. 1.35 million , globally, die every year from road deaths. the figure for alcohol is 2.07 million. obvs the latter causes some of the former.
I imagine like the smoking bans, this will become the norm across the EU (where alcoholism is huge) and the nanny staters can give themselves a clap on the back, while they quaff down their discounted pints and fine reds. calorie count is a good thing really.again though, should be mandatory for loads of stuff.
HYprocisy leads to apathy. *power* increases moral *hypocrisy.* No power can be maintained when it is only represented by hypocrites. the publicans /lobby/government are utter hypocrites here. I have no doubt that the government would be lobbying other jurisdictions if these labels were brought in with Guinness, travel alerts for tourists visiting pubs or our ever growing whisky industry. its morally bankrupt in my opinion and attacking Joe Soap with his wine or beer at home, while he or she has broke their backs for their corporate masters and payed their tax for the drink, the very corporate entities that fuel so much of the hypocrisy is going to lead to major apathy and resentment. which will lead to a future rejection of much needed reforms. the very thing we are already seeing with climate action.
this naked (easily identifiable due to the internet) hypocrisy creates an apathy and wariness of the issue. very similar to what we are seeing with green/climate awareness.
TLDR – just loads of hypocrisy as usual. clear as day in an internet relatable society. Individuals are not the cause – corporations are. Put cancer warnings on Mcdonalds and the rest. Put it on pint glasses and stop the soft promotion of Ireland as a drinking destination if you´re that concerned.
If you buy any food or (non-alcoholic) drink at the shops, it will include calorie content on the label. It’s been that way for years. What’s the big deal?
jesus, what a waste of time. The best drink related policy I’ve heard of was when they tried to bring in the wine bars in the 00s to change our culture. The publicans blocked it though.
Dear Adults, we’re here to hold your hand at every stage.
Sincerely,
The Government.
Regulate me harder daddy
Buying a High Ball in Japan with no sugar, just a can of sparkling water with whiskey or scotch. Very nice. 7% alcohol.
240 calories in a 500ml can.
What the fuck calories am I taking in when I destroy a 70cl bottle of whiskey over a weekend.
Edit: added the can ml
Very happy to welcome Calorie Content on alcohol. As someone trying to lose some weight for health reasons, it sucks having to guess the calories in alcohol. I’d like to enjoy a pint or a bottle wine without guessing how many is in it. All other food stuff have the calories and nutrients listed.
I fail to see the problem so many people are seeing here. It’s literally just putting information that should be there, like every other packaged food or beverage. Yeah there’s the health warning too, like cigarettes, but who cares.
I might get down voted to hell for stating the next thing, it might be cultural, but in France the default beer size is 33cl. When you want to drink a beer, you drink an “unit” of beer, not an “amount”. You drink one beer, not specifically 50cl. If you start to sell more 33cl packaged things, you drive down consumption of a large part of the drinking population, who also pays less. Of course that’d come against the wishes of beer selling companies because less profit.
The real “nany” laws are the ones fixing the prices, raising taxes, limited hours… one or two more laws like that and it’ll be harder to buy booze here than guns in the USA
The calorie content thing is good, I think some people don’t realize how crazy high in calories alcohol is. I noticed some vodka I got in Aldi has the calorie content labelled and it’s a lot
I welcome this and don’t think this is a nanny state gone mad. It gives you the information and warns you about the risks; from there on, it’s up to you to make this decision. A nanny state would take away and ban things or punish you for using them. Plenty of examples of a nanny state gone mad in Ireland, like the MUP and reactionary policies like additional taxes or lazy bans.
Comparison to steak and rashers is a bit stretched because the benefits-risk ratio of food, even the “bad food”, outweighs the benefits-risk ratio of alcohol. Plus, you already have traffic light colour warnings and nutritional values on food packaging.
Also, I am sure this will have a knock-on effect on people’s attitudes towards alcohol in pubs, even though there will be no warning labels on pints and glasses.
How is this different from putting labels on cigarettes? Studies have shown that people weren’t fully aware of all the risks associated with smoking, and the labels helped increase smokers’ likelihood of quitting.
Hard agree on the calorie content. Nothing that enters the stomach of a human being, for sale commercially, should fail to include that information.
Honestly the fact that alcohol is exempt from a bunch of labelling rules that apply to literally every other mass produced food items is really weird.
Even this law doesn’t seem to bring alcohol into line with all other food since it only focuses on calories, not the rest of the nutritional information.
That calorie content is gonna hurt a lot.
Our government has decided not to solve any big structural or social problems, so they invent non problems to solve instead.
Now that we as a people are warned about the dangers of alchohol and caloric content, can we buy it in the mornings yet, like adults…