Huh, that’s actually a lot of people. Optimism’s good I guess.
Huge evolutionary breakthrough: *turkeys develop rudimentary understanding that Christmas is bad for their health.*
This last decade has really felt like the government was trying to wind the UK up as a going concern.
I wonder if they still think that the Tories and Brexit are the solvent they believed that they were in 2019. Now they have Lee Anderson telling them to eat meals for 30p, and other creeps blowing antisemitic dogwhistles.
I just wish people would start asking the Tories what the benefits of Austerity were. You know.. that bitter pill we had to swallow to fix the countries finances the “we’re all in it together”. The sacrifice we had to make to put things right…
We sacrificed growth and our public services for NO gain. The amount to fix this mess eclipses the savings we made from Austerity post 2010.
It was never needed, Austerity was a smoke and mirrors plan so they could reduce spending, the end goal being to reduce the tax burden on the rich. How’s that working out? More taxed than we ever were, more debt than ever.
It was all going so well in 2019 with Johnson, they didn’t see party gate coming. Liz Truss government was the final Hail Mary “Ohh shit we’re unpopular now and we haven’t gotten to the part were we cut the highest earners tax yet, lets just do it all now and act like its a great plan”
It is true but from the Mirror, the scum sucking sleaze paper who is complicit in the decline of this country.
The mechanisms for redistributing wealth from the working class to the capitalist class seem to be fully functional.
We are a backward country with everything failing and falling into disrepair. Ive never been so ashamed of this country . We’ve become a Ghetto where nobody has any pride or love for the country just a hopeless future with no respect for anything.
Governments never complete what they set out in their plans , they just talk.
There was brexit, and there was levelling up. Sadly, none of the Tory-switching bellends stopped for 5 seconds to ask themselves why the latter was at all necessary after successive Tory governments. Thick bastards.
*A majority of the 2,017 adults quizzed nationwide this month by More in Common for the left-leaning The New Britain Project think tank fears the UK is a country in decline.*
I’m sure they’re probably right in terms of gaging sentiment, but I’m not sure that’s going to be an honest polling organisation.
Austerity (and Brexit ) is a project specifically designed to redistribute wealth from the poor to the rich. And the uk fell for it. Hopefully they will vote for Labour and this time and more pertinently, hopefully Labour will stop being Tory light and start the project of reversing this and redistribution back to the poor.
Gotta say, in the last year or two it really feels like most of the companies and entities out there that exist for X function just seem to be awful at delivering X.
Local council? Unable to deliver bins. Water company? Unable to bill correctly. Insurance company moving online? Online portal is completely busted with no way to contact a human in a reasonable time.
The UK has a beautiful habit of adding unbelievable complexity to even simple things, layer upon layer of beauracracy, whilst cost cutting and shrinking the teams in charge of those things – so we just end up with systems and processes that are an absolute nightmare to navigate even assuming that they’ll even work (which they won’t, half the time).
The answer for Scotland and NI is to get out of the clown show. Not sure what England and Wales can do.
Still, “better this than that dangerous old Marxist and his allotment”, eh?
<facepalm>
Lets vote for the party who broke the country and have been in power for the last 13 years then
smoothbrained, mouthbreathing morons
No, you need to understand that the system is working exactly as intended. The outcomes we’re seeing are too consistent and too complex to just happen as side effects.
We are *deliberately* and *intentionally* being deprived of functional social services. Money is not being lost or mishandled, it is being *stolen*.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. The country is addicted to voting Tory and then complains about what they get.
I’ll quote my mother in law on this one: ” well it would be worse under labour”. This completely explains how we’ve ended up in this situation.
Oh wow, the country kept voting to saw off another limb instead of going to get treatment for gangrene and now they’re sitting around wondering why they can’t function anymore.
Very real country and not a 30 vehicle clown car pile up.
Serious question for conservatives – big C and small – I’m not interested in any disrespect or anything: do you look at the past 13 years and think that maybe conservativism has inherent flaws?
Seeing all the comments here blaming the government, I thought I’d play devil’s advocate and take the contrary view.
You know what? I can’t. It’s literally bad decision after bad decision. Genuinely indefensible.
Sure, a Covid outbreak didn’t help, nor the Ukraine war. But using them as excuses is a bit like saying the reason you got burgled was because your windows fell out—ignoring the fact you took the decision to entirely demolish the front wall of your house.
Just anecdotally, I was in Poland for the first time at the weekend, and Poland is forecast to be wealthier than the UK by the end of the decade.
…and fuck me, it’s obvious.
​
Poland was clean, efficient, and harmonious. Excellent smooth roads and awesome public transport. Gorgeous, clean, safe, buzzing town centres full of families and well-to-do middle class folk going to fancy restaurants.
The airport was modern, super fast and well organised. The whole place had the vibe of a well run pre-2008 American city.
​
…then I got back to the UK, to an overcorwded airport that looks like an old Lidl, walked through the filthy street to the cancelled bus and took a taxi through the pothole ridden roads that are way over capacity. The town centres are grim, deserted and not terribly safe.
​
I dunno how, but we’ve managed to blow it, despite all our historic wealth and advantages.
*votes Tory*
“I can’t believe things have gotten worse” 😮
Fucking plebs
I’m getting pretty tired of hearing they voted Tory because they were lied to.
It’s not just northern England that were lied to, this was cross country.
It just says a lot about the demographic that believed their rhetoric. They (along with many other parts of the country) wanted someone to blame for their low status and the fact they’d been forgotten about.
Give them a blue pitchfork and they’ll happily wave it around and point it in the direction they’re told to, why would you point it in the direction of the person who gave it to you?
Should have backed Corbyn then if they wanted things to work.
– Stop caring about the Royal Family.
– Demand devolution similar to what Scotland and Wales have.
– Start realising you have nothing in common with the people who govern you.
That’s nonsense.
There are far more food banks now than there were previously.
Just ask the good people of Hartlepool. They know.
This is what you get every single time you vote in fucking conservatives. Every time.
Bernard Jenkins memorably described his government’s treatment of post industrial areas as “managed decline”.
The reason why ‘red wall’ voters think nothing works is because it doesn’t. And the reason it doesn’t work is because it was deliberate tory government policy 40 years ago to stop it from ever working again. Incan understand the frustrations with Labour, but voting for the same cunts that broke all this in the first place was stupidity personified.
It’s the natural result of an electoral system that revolves around picking one of two sides on whatever the single most divisive issue happens to be. There is absolutely no incentive for anyone in politics to focus on anything else.
The simple truth is that the working classes are largely under-educated gullible sheep. My evidence? Brexit.
Maybe don’t vote Conservative then or vote for Brexit. The EU wasn’t responsible for the destitution in the North. Its subsequent government’s not giving a shite for decades. A lot of the good stuff that we have/had in the region was down to EU funding, not central government funding. That’s why I will never understand why people in their masses voted for Brexit. You reap what you sow, unfortunately, and it’s the rest of us who knew better that suffer because of it.
When you fly back to the UK from Europe, you really notice it now how broken and dirty the UK is, especially outside London and the Home Counties. Like, it hits hard.
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>Just 30% are optimistic for the future.
Huh, that’s actually a lot of people. Optimism’s good I guess.
Huge evolutionary breakthrough: *turkeys develop rudimentary understanding that Christmas is bad for their health.*
This last decade has really felt like the government was trying to wind the UK up as a going concern.
I wonder if they still think that the Tories and Brexit are the solvent they believed that they were in 2019. Now they have Lee Anderson telling them to eat meals for 30p, and other creeps blowing antisemitic dogwhistles.
I just wish people would start asking the Tories what the benefits of Austerity were. You know.. that bitter pill we had to swallow to fix the countries finances the “we’re all in it together”. The sacrifice we had to make to put things right…
We sacrificed growth and our public services for NO gain. The amount to fix this mess eclipses the savings we made from Austerity post 2010.
It was never needed, Austerity was a smoke and mirrors plan so they could reduce spending, the end goal being to reduce the tax burden on the rich. How’s that working out? More taxed than we ever were, more debt than ever.
It was all going so well in 2019 with Johnson, they didn’t see party gate coming. Liz Truss government was the final Hail Mary “Ohh shit we’re unpopular now and we haven’t gotten to the part were we cut the highest earners tax yet, lets just do it all now and act like its a great plan”
It is true but from the Mirror, the scum sucking sleaze paper who is complicit in the decline of this country.
The mechanisms for redistributing wealth from the working class to the capitalist class seem to be fully functional.
We are a backward country with everything failing and falling into disrepair. Ive never been so ashamed of this country . We’ve become a Ghetto where nobody has any pride or love for the country just a hopeless future with no respect for anything.
Governments never complete what they set out in their plans , they just talk.
There was brexit, and there was levelling up. Sadly, none of the Tory-switching bellends stopped for 5 seconds to ask themselves why the latter was at all necessary after successive Tory governments. Thick bastards.
*A majority of the 2,017 adults quizzed nationwide this month by More in Common for the left-leaning The New Britain Project think tank fears the UK is a country in decline.*
I’m sure they’re probably right in terms of gaging sentiment, but I’m not sure that’s going to be an honest polling organisation.
Austerity (and Brexit ) is a project specifically designed to redistribute wealth from the poor to the rich. And the uk fell for it. Hopefully they will vote for Labour and this time and more pertinently, hopefully Labour will stop being Tory light and start the project of reversing this and redistribution back to the poor.
Gotta say, in the last year or two it really feels like most of the companies and entities out there that exist for X function just seem to be awful at delivering X.
Local council? Unable to deliver bins. Water company? Unable to bill correctly. Insurance company moving online? Online portal is completely busted with no way to contact a human in a reasonable time.
The UK has a beautiful habit of adding unbelievable complexity to even simple things, layer upon layer of beauracracy, whilst cost cutting and shrinking the teams in charge of those things – so we just end up with systems and processes that are an absolute nightmare to navigate even assuming that they’ll even work (which they won’t, half the time).
The answer for Scotland and NI is to get out of the clown show. Not sure what England and Wales can do.
Still, “better this than that dangerous old Marxist and his allotment”, eh?
<facepalm>
Lets vote for the party who broke the country and have been in power for the last 13 years then
smoothbrained, mouthbreathing morons
No, you need to understand that the system is working exactly as intended. The outcomes we’re seeing are too consistent and too complex to just happen as side effects.
We are *deliberately* and *intentionally* being deprived of functional social services. Money is not being lost or mishandled, it is being *stolen*.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. The country is addicted to voting Tory and then complains about what they get.
I’ll quote my mother in law on this one: ” well it would be worse under labour”. This completely explains how we’ve ended up in this situation.
Oh wow, the country kept voting to saw off another limb instead of going to get treatment for gangrene and now they’re sitting around wondering why they can’t function anymore.
Very real country and not a 30 vehicle clown car pile up.
Serious question for conservatives – big C and small – I’m not interested in any disrespect or anything: do you look at the past 13 years and think that maybe conservativism has inherent flaws?
Seeing all the comments here blaming the government, I thought I’d play devil’s advocate and take the contrary view.
You know what? I can’t. It’s literally bad decision after bad decision. Genuinely indefensible.
Sure, a Covid outbreak didn’t help, nor the Ukraine war. But using them as excuses is a bit like saying the reason you got burgled was because your windows fell out—ignoring the fact you took the decision to entirely demolish the front wall of your house.
Just anecdotally, I was in Poland for the first time at the weekend, and Poland is forecast to be wealthier than the UK by the end of the decade.
…and fuck me, it’s obvious.
​
Poland was clean, efficient, and harmonious. Excellent smooth roads and awesome public transport. Gorgeous, clean, safe, buzzing town centres full of families and well-to-do middle class folk going to fancy restaurants.
The airport was modern, super fast and well organised. The whole place had the vibe of a well run pre-2008 American city.
​
…then I got back to the UK, to an overcorwded airport that looks like an old Lidl, walked through the filthy street to the cancelled bus and took a taxi through the pothole ridden roads that are way over capacity. The town centres are grim, deserted and not terribly safe.
​
I dunno how, but we’ve managed to blow it, despite all our historic wealth and advantages.
*votes Tory*
“I can’t believe things have gotten worse” 😮
Fucking plebs
I’m getting pretty tired of hearing they voted Tory because they were lied to.
It’s not just northern England that were lied to, this was cross country.
It just says a lot about the demographic that believed their rhetoric. They (along with many other parts of the country) wanted someone to blame for their low status and the fact they’d been forgotten about.
Give them a blue pitchfork and they’ll happily wave it around and point it in the direction they’re told to, why would you point it in the direction of the person who gave it to you?
Should have backed Corbyn then if they wanted things to work.
– Stop caring about the Royal Family.
– Demand devolution similar to what Scotland and Wales have.
– Start realising you have nothing in common with the people who govern you.
That’s nonsense.
There are far more food banks now than there were previously.
Just ask the good people of Hartlepool. They know.
This is what you get every single time you vote in fucking conservatives. Every time.
Bernard Jenkins memorably described his government’s treatment of post industrial areas as “managed decline”.
The reason why ‘red wall’ voters think nothing works is because it doesn’t. And the reason it doesn’t work is because it was deliberate tory government policy 40 years ago to stop it from ever working again. Incan understand the frustrations with Labour, but voting for the same cunts that broke all this in the first place was stupidity personified.
It’s the natural result of an electoral system that revolves around picking one of two sides on whatever the single most divisive issue happens to be. There is absolutely no incentive for anyone in politics to focus on anything else.
The simple truth is that the working classes are largely under-educated gullible sheep. My evidence? Brexit.
Maybe don’t vote Conservative then or vote for Brexit. The EU wasn’t responsible for the destitution in the North. Its subsequent government’s not giving a shite for decades. A lot of the good stuff that we have/had in the region was down to EU funding, not central government funding. That’s why I will never understand why people in their masses voted for Brexit. You reap what you sow, unfortunately, and it’s the rest of us who knew better that suffer because of it.
When you fly back to the UK from Europe, you really notice it now how broken and dirty the UK is, especially outside London and the Home Counties. Like, it hits hard.
It’s getting worse every year