Ukraine: Russia’s ambassador to the UK insists Moscow “hasn’t even started fighting seriously yet”

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  1. You can almost guarantee that even when Ukrainian troops are pushing up the Crimean Peninsula and the Black Sea fleet is fleeing towards the Mediterranean that Russia will still be peddling this same bollocks.

  2. It’s so funny how compulsively every single official statement of Russia just underscore that the exact opposite is true

  3. I am sure saying stuff like that is a great comfort to all the Russian families who have lost members, wounded soldiers whose lives are forever altered, not to mention the ones currently in Ukraine waiting to find out if they are where the hammer lands.

    ‘Oh great we are giving life and limb here while those bastards back home pretend this is not serious…’

  4. Serious fighting starts when they roll out the T-34s. Down to T-62s now, have we seen any T-55 yet?

  5. I know this sounds incredibly stupid and transparent, but I already have Serbian and Turkish friends say the same thing. Also that China will be a superpower and we need to join their new world currency or something.

    Anything to hate on EU or NATO I guess.

  6. Was this guy sleeping for 8 months or something? The “we have yet to begin to fight” line of thinking fell apart when the Kharkiv Offensive inflicted massive losses on the Russian army as second army corps basically vaporized under Ukrainian army advances and they had to conscript hundreds of thousands of men to avoid a total collapse.

    * Russia only has about 20 million young men, and approximately two million of them fled the country between February 2022 and the Partial Mobilization. If they do another wave of mobilization, it’ll likely result in more Russians trying to get out of Russia and more Russian teenagers trying to not be in Russia when they turn 18. For every Russian they put in the military, 3 or 4 flee the country.

    * The Russians are talking about adding a 6th unpaid work day to the work week, or compelling workers to spend an extra two free hours in munitions plants, or other various proposals that all amount to people working more hours for no pay. That isn’t the sort of thing you expect from a country where the war plans are going smoothly.

    * Russia’s production rate of weapons isn’t anywhere close to its usage rates for those weapons. Tanks, missiles, aircraft- you name it and the Russians are either shooting it or losing it faster than they can replenish their stocks. They aren’t the USSR and they don’t have the industrial base of the USSR, they’ve never actually had to build any military equipment in vast quantities.

    Even the Russians that support the idea of invading Ukraine aren’t eager to join up, because they are starting to see the poor state of the military and the skyrocketing casualty numbers. Nobody is eager to join the military and be sent on a pointless suicide mission because their officers are incompetent.

  7. So their plan is to lose a critical amount of soldiers and equipment before starting to fight seriously?
    Sounds like an absolute genius plan…

  8. “hasn’t even started fighting seriously yet”

    Yeah, mate, we know, it’s a fucking shambolic piece of hilariousness compared to what you’re supposed to be capable of.

    Thing is, you’re still killing people, and those people’s families and friends have got real, proper, modern weapons now.

  9. What such a statement, had it been true, actually means is that they’ve sent hundreds of thousands of men to their deaths just because they couldn’t be arsed to “even start fighting seriously”…. heh

  10. ‘We haven’t even started fighting seriously yet’

    So either:

    1. The ambassador is telling the truth and Russia has just been deliberately incompetent and ineffective in how it fights the war, and throwing away tens of thousands of soldiers because they can’t be bothered to fight ‘seriously’
    2. He’s a lying POS and Russia is simply incompetent, and the poor performance in the war is simply the best they can do.

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