UUP, who ran a one-party apartheid regime for 50 years, are now complaining that Sinn Féin are winning too many seats in democratic elections and that’s bad for community relations

UUP, who ran a one-party apartheid regime for 50 years, are now complaining that Sinn Féin are winning too many seats in democratic elections and that’s bad for community relations
by u/DuneYerAulWan in ireland

41 comments

  2. He’s sounds extremely bitter and annoyed unionism isn’t the ruler over NI that it once was. The girls beside him face though lmao

  11. So he’s basically saying that democracy is one thing, but Unionists need to always have a say, regardless of whether or not they’ve earned it – That’s just the same old tyrannical bullshit that the Oranges epitomize. Get them out to fuck.

  13. Lads, I don’t mind everyone voting. Sure it is great craic. Now too many are voting for the wrong people and the is an issue.

  15. It’s only going in one direction.

    If you study the demographics, there’s a Catholic majority in 0 to 50 age group.
    Above 50 years old there’s a Protestant majority.

    So as Protestants die off and Catholics grow old enough to vote, Sinn Fein and other parties like the Alliance will continue to grow in voter share.

    In 20 years there’ll be a significant Catholic majority.

  17. This is my big gripe with politics back home. They think there are only 2 issues we care about: Unionism and Nationalism.

    Fuck that, I care about health care, education, transportation, public services, housing etc etc.

    Whether or not the politician working to achieve the best for these issues fancies a march on July 12 or wears a shamrock on March 17th is completely fucking irrelevant to me

  18. Maybe stopping burning effigies of Catholics as a cultural ‘celebration’ would be a good step towards modernising, you gerrymandering weirdos.

  20. The woman there makes the salient point. Political parties up North need to exist beyond the issue of unionism vs nationalism. What’re their policies to tackle education, job creation, housing etc

  21. It’s also a PR-STV electoral system, which gives them every opportunity to be represented proportionally. I don’t really know what he’s on about.

    It might be an argument one could make in a simple majoritarian system, but not in an NI local election.

    If his party didn’t win enough seats, that’s their fault and nobody else’s. They didn’t present a convincing argument and if that waffle is the level of argument they present, I’m not surprised!

    Also SF performed well with 144 seats gaining 39, but the DUP held 122, AP have 67, gaining 14, the UUP lost 21 and only have 54 and the SDLP lost 20 and are down to 39 and others have 36 (down 12) but that’s not a massive sweeping majority for anyone. It’s a big boost for SF and the Alliance Party in a PR democracy.

  22. This is their own fault. They will only enter into power sharing when they are in the driving seat, never when they are the passenger.

    People from both sides of the street know this and are fed up with this bullshit.

  25. Absolutely *seething* they can’t just redraw the electoral boundaries again. Irish nationalists in the north have been some of the most disenfranchised people in the world in modern history and unionism just can’t play their old games anymore. Fills me with joy.

  26. I thoroughly enjoyed watching this yesterday, not that it will change Danny Kennedy’s way of thinking one bit, but it was nice to see him on the back foot.

    This election goes to show that voters are thinking beyond the orange green divide, pride is taking second place to reality for an increasing number of people.

    The only thing stopping northern Ireland being a thriving economic hub is backwards thinking. Imagine if the DUP had played ball since Brexit, and involved themselves in an all island economy, what a place it would be.

  28. Democracy only works when my team get voted in. Otherwise it’s dangerous. If that’s the level of intelligence in unionist politicians then we’ll have a united Ireland even sooner than expected

  29. What an absolute wank. He’ll be asking for more constituencies next just so more unionists can run. Absolute pigeon brained tunnel visioned desperate that

  36. Free and Democratic elections means APARTHEID!

    Democracy and giving EVERYBODY a vote is racist and is anti British!

    – Danny.

  37. Unionism ruled over Northern Ireland for nearly 60 years before consideration was given to ensure Nationalists have a voice, never mind an actual seat at the table, and even when we got there, Unionism gerrymandered the absolute shit out of the system to make sure they held the levers of control.

    Unionism failed to provide housing, education, jobs for Catholics and fought bitterly to avoid giving Catholics the right to vote.

    What Danny and the rest of Unionism is terrified of is that they might be treated as poorly as Unionism has treated Nationalists for 100 years in a “New Ireland”. Unionism is terrified of actually getting a taste of their own medicine.

    It certainly would do them good, but, Irish Nationalism is better than that. We simply want our country back, and for Ireland, as one nation, to take her rightful place, among all the other nations of the world.

    That’s all we’ve ever wanted.

  38. For the record, he later used the term “benign apartheid” to describe the growth of Sinn Féin.

    Now, interestingly Sinn Féin have won an overall majority on Fermanagh and Omagh Council. However, they immediately announced they would use d’Hondt Method to allocate key positions so as not to exclude other parties. Literally the fucking opposite of apartheid

  39. Further proof – if any were needed 🙄 – that unionists think ONLY of themselves and their own welfare, and have only contempt for any- and everybody who even attempts to bring a little common sense, logic, reason fact and honesty into the debate.

  40. This was like the rant yer man had on fox (maybe CNN, can’t tell the difference anymore) where he said, with great confidence, that the US couldn’t have proportional representation, because if every vote counted equally republicans would never be in charge again.

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