Does anyone have the actual number of properties on Airbnb in the country or per County?
I’d like to move home one day, can’t like this. Totally impossible.
This is why we left left Donegal.
One landlord was going into the house when we weren’t there and complaining about us having moved things around.
Next house the owners had broken up and even though we had a rental agreement, the other estranged partner threatened to set the guards on us for living there.
We couldn’t move in with family because they had problems with drink and just couldn’t live with them long-term (partner’s family is from Donegal)
It’s heartbreaking because it’s where we want to live and all our friends and neighbors are, and just time after time couldn’t find anything stable in terms of housing.
I know everyone probably has a similar story, just wanted to vent. I hope we’ll be able to be back in the next few years.
There’s a special place in hell for air bnb owners.
Airbnb Ban.
Vacant Property tax.
Remove Nimby laws.
Tax incentive for builders who complete high density government projects on time, and within budget.
Don’t sell aforementioned public housing stock to anyone, not the public, not vulture funds.
How fucking hard is it lads!
EDIT – Forgot to say probably the most important point, ban Vulture Funds
13BL / 500,000 = 26,000 houses, at 500,000 for the price of a house, which is half of what needs to made per year to end the housing crisis in 10 years. (Rough numbers found from Google research)
Where can I find or make a petition that states the government should take the 13Billion and immediately invest it into housing? Also the profit from the housing boom could be used to create more houses repetitively
We do this once a week. It’s false equivalence. Air bnb properties are not actually available as full dwellings year round.
Where are they getting the figures from? [Insideairbnb.com](https://Insideairbnb.com) lists Dublin as having 812 entire homes that are recent and frequently booked. This articles lists it as 2,840 properties in Dublin on [daft.ie](https://daft.ie)…
A lot of estate agents and landlords have stopped advertising on daft. Why pay a few hundred to advertise a property on daft and when you likely have a list of tenants willing to take an apartment without advertising it.
We should just ban airbnb. It will have fuck all difference on the housing crisis because if you can actually use proper datasets, you 812 more home available in Dublin is literally fuck all. However, we can’t have a decent debate on the housing crisis without airbnb being cited as a reason…
The other thing people are missing here is that ‘entire place’ doesn’t necessarily mean a house or apartment, especially outside urban areas. Many of them are cabins, annexes, attic spaces, Granny flats etc that are not ever going to be rented as permanent accommodation, it wouldn’t be legal. Now whether or not they should be rented on Airbnb is another argument, but it isn’t quite as black and white as the numbers being presented.
Make sure to use your vote wisely next year. I’m basing my vote exclusively on housing.
Assuming these numbers a true, we don’t have a housing crisis. We have an AirBnB crisis.
Change the law, require the same rules and standards as a BnB. Require people to register as a business to use AirBnB. Watch those numbers tumble.
That’s every single Airbnb available, comparing apples to apples would be comparing it to every single property rented in Donegal. Also consider that 75% of Donegal hotel rooms are currently rented by the government to house asylum seekers. Where does this leave tourists to stay? Airbnb.
This is why we have a housing crisis.
Short term lets need planning permission, and, I believe, approval from the local council. None of them have it, bar a tiny percentage. Get on to your local councillors, and ask for enforcement of the viren law by the council.
The situation is dire with absolutely no end in sight. The government has made zero plans to do anything about it and even if they now did something it would take at least 10 years to get some improvements.
The last census recorded 22000 unoccupied houses in Donegal. Half holiday homes and half simply vacant.
572 Airbnbs are not the problem.
I still think this whole “Ban AirBnB!” thing is just a huge, wasteful distraction. Other countries don’t need to ban a BnB service in order to house their citizens. I’d say the government are pretty happy to have people continuing to point their fingers at AirBnB in this way.
It’s a housing supply issue that our government should be able to address without needing to ban private companies.
Not sure Daft is a good indication of places for rent these days. Where I live people find out through word of mouth, social media and good old fashioned notices in shops. If you think about it the landlord has little reason to put an ad on Daft. He knows he can let the room easily without doing so. Why go to the hassle of answering calls and emails when Johnny and Mary’s young lad up the road is looking for a place and one of my 57 properties will do him just fine.
The issue is not Airbnb. Airbnb represents a limited stock and includes properties that are not suitable for most people to live in permanently. No one wants to live in a yurt, or a bedsit, or in properties out in the wilderness miles from anywhere. If all Airbnbs came up on the market there might be a short lived relief for rentals, but trouble would quickly return when that limited stock ran out.
The issue with housing is not Airbnb, it’s successive governments failing to build adequate social housing.
I actually own an airbnb property in west donegal….
AMA
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(no name calling or swearing please)
Blame the people who choose to rent out properties they own as AirBnBs.
Modern day gombeen men, profiting off their fellow countrymen and women.
Slap a huge % tax on lettings less than 3 months, a bit less for lettings under 6 months etc. and usual tax rate for lettings 1+ years
To be honest most of you won’t even know that there’s a huge housing crisis in Donegal due to the fact that the government did not regulate a concrete company called “Cassidy’s” which quite literally have gotten away with this outrageous scandal, houses are literally crumbling with the slightest touch of the concrete, around 10,000 houses have been affected by this. 30,000 people went to Dublin to protest this(including me)yet the government has done nothing since we are the “Forgotten County”. But the pyrite scheme got 100% recoup for their properties. This issue needs addressing.
If I were in a government that refused to build houses, I’d be only delighted when folks blamed airbnb for my absolute fucking failure to do anything.
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Does anyone have the actual number of properties on Airbnb in the country or per County?
I’d like to move home one day, can’t like this. Totally impossible.
This is why we left left Donegal.
One landlord was going into the house when we weren’t there and complaining about us having moved things around.
Next house the owners had broken up and even though we had a rental agreement, the other estranged partner threatened to set the guards on us for living there.
We couldn’t move in with family because they had problems with drink and just couldn’t live with them long-term (partner’s family is from Donegal)
It’s heartbreaking because it’s where we want to live and all our friends and neighbors are, and just time after time couldn’t find anything stable in terms of housing.
I know everyone probably has a similar story, just wanted to vent. I hope we’ll be able to be back in the next few years.
There’s a special place in hell for air bnb owners.
Airbnb Ban.
Vacant Property tax.
Remove Nimby laws.
Tax incentive for builders who complete high density government projects on time, and within budget.
Don’t sell aforementioned public housing stock to anyone, not the public, not vulture funds.
How fucking hard is it lads!
EDIT – Forgot to say probably the most important point, ban Vulture Funds
13BL / 500,000 = 26,000 houses, at 500,000 for the price of a house, which is half of what needs to made per year to end the housing crisis in 10 years. (Rough numbers found from Google research)
Where can I find or make a petition that states the government should take the 13Billion and immediately invest it into housing? Also the profit from the housing boom could be used to create more houses repetitively
We do this once a week. It’s false equivalence. Air bnb properties are not actually available as full dwellings year round.
Where are they getting the figures from? [Insideairbnb.com](https://Insideairbnb.com) lists Dublin as having 812 entire homes that are recent and frequently booked. This articles lists it as 2,840 properties in Dublin on [daft.ie](https://daft.ie)…
A lot of estate agents and landlords have stopped advertising on daft. Why pay a few hundred to advertise a property on daft and when you likely have a list of tenants willing to take an apartment without advertising it.
We should just ban airbnb. It will have fuck all difference on the housing crisis because if you can actually use proper datasets, you 812 more home available in Dublin is literally fuck all. However, we can’t have a decent debate on the housing crisis without airbnb being cited as a reason…
The other thing people are missing here is that ‘entire place’ doesn’t necessarily mean a house or apartment, especially outside urban areas. Many of them are cabins, annexes, attic spaces, Granny flats etc that are not ever going to be rented as permanent accommodation, it wouldn’t be legal. Now whether or not they should be rented on Airbnb is another argument, but it isn’t quite as black and white as the numbers being presented.
Make sure to use your vote wisely next year. I’m basing my vote exclusively on housing.
Assuming these numbers a true, we don’t have a housing crisis. We have an AirBnB crisis.
Change the law, require the same rules and standards as a BnB. Require people to register as a business to use AirBnB. Watch those numbers tumble.
That’s every single Airbnb available, comparing apples to apples would be comparing it to every single property rented in Donegal. Also consider that 75% of Donegal hotel rooms are currently rented by the government to house asylum seekers. Where does this leave tourists to stay? Airbnb.
This is why we have a housing crisis.
Short term lets need planning permission, and, I believe, approval from the local council. None of them have it, bar a tiny percentage. Get on to your local councillors, and ask for enforcement of the viren law by the council.
The situation is dire with absolutely no end in sight. The government has made zero plans to do anything about it and even if they now did something it would take at least 10 years to get some improvements.
The last census recorded 22000 unoccupied houses in Donegal. Half holiday homes and half simply vacant.
572 Airbnbs are not the problem.
I still think this whole “Ban AirBnB!” thing is just a huge, wasteful distraction. Other countries don’t need to ban a BnB service in order to house their citizens. I’d say the government are pretty happy to have people continuing to point their fingers at AirBnB in this way.
It’s a housing supply issue that our government should be able to address without needing to ban private companies.
Not sure Daft is a good indication of places for rent these days. Where I live people find out through word of mouth, social media and good old fashioned notices in shops. If you think about it the landlord has little reason to put an ad on Daft. He knows he can let the room easily without doing so. Why go to the hassle of answering calls and emails when Johnny and Mary’s young lad up the road is looking for a place and one of my 57 properties will do him just fine.
The issue is not Airbnb. Airbnb represents a limited stock and includes properties that are not suitable for most people to live in permanently. No one wants to live in a yurt, or a bedsit, or in properties out in the wilderness miles from anywhere. If all Airbnbs came up on the market there might be a short lived relief for rentals, but trouble would quickly return when that limited stock ran out.
The issue with housing is not Airbnb, it’s successive governments failing to build adequate social housing.
I actually own an airbnb property in west donegal….
AMA
​
(no name calling or swearing please)
Blame the people who choose to rent out properties they own as AirBnBs.
Modern day gombeen men, profiting off their fellow countrymen and women.
Slap a huge % tax on lettings less than 3 months, a bit less for lettings under 6 months etc. and usual tax rate for lettings 1+ years
To be honest most of you won’t even know that there’s a huge housing crisis in Donegal due to the fact that the government did not regulate a concrete company called “Cassidy’s” which quite literally have gotten away with this outrageous scandal, houses are literally crumbling with the slightest touch of the concrete, around 10,000 houses have been affected by this. 30,000 people went to Dublin to protest this(including me)yet the government has done nothing since we are the “Forgotten County”. But the pyrite scheme got 100% recoup for their properties. This issue needs addressing.
If I were in a government that refused to build houses, I’d be only delighted when folks blamed airbnb for my absolute fucking failure to do anything.