I’m all for this. I’ve left 2acres alone for the last 4 years to encourage wildlife to return. I’ve another lot that is more hassle to clear than it is rewarding
I do this with my front garden and the neighbours complain.
Now they wanna pay people to do it?
Considering our levels of biodiversity have declined hugely over the past 30 years, I’d be fully behind this. Though there’s likely to be a lot of competition for land over the next 30 years to balance food production, carbon neutral energy and biodiversity.
Seems like a good idea. Farmers need to earn.
Yes sounds good more forests and nature hopefully farmers aren’t greedy asking ridiculous numbers for small plots they haven’t used in years
And people try to say being a landowner isn’t a class. Literally money for nothing.
It’d be great. But some farmers just want to maintain the tradition of pastoral farming.
Next what they will do is selling this land to foreign investors. Mark my words.
Would it not make more sense to buy the land off them at a fair price and return it to its natural state permanently? A grant or continuous payment could just be revoked with a new elected government and then we’re back to where we were to begin with.
Ah yes then we can import our beef from Brazil
This is a terrible headline. Everyone is looking for rewilding to be a part of CAP. Very few stakeholders are against it. But the headline makes it sound like the Greens want to give farmers money for nothing.
Couple months later. Why is my food so expensive omg
I’ll return my front and back garden if that’s the case. Free money for farmers. What’s new.
Ok but is someone still going to grow food, rear cattle etc? we still need to eat.
Great idea. This is a workable solution.
It’s in stark contrast with their “banning smokey fuel in Ireland while facilitating it’s export abroad” idea.
If we can encourage green initiatives and simultaneously invest in wind energy we’ll be in a much better place in the next few decades.
Every where you go in this county, every field, every spare bit of land is cleared for sheep or cattle. I know a few sheep farmers and they all have to have second jobs because keeping livestock doesnt pay the bills. As far as I can see, they only do it because they’ve been farmers for generations, and because its the only way to make any money from the land they own. if there was a scheme paying them to rewild the land I bet some of them would take it because
1) it means they still own the land
2) it would pay more than sheep
3) it would be a lot less work
^We are/were trying to do this in the netherlands.2/3 of our land is occupied by farms/agriculture. We get way too much nitrogen in to the soil all, nature area’s are dying, biodviersity decreasing.Most farmers don’t want to sell their businesses and the ‘angry farmers movement’ polls as the largest national party and will be the largest party in the senate in a few days with around 25% off the seats. We will probably come to clash with Europe over this soon as well and meanwhile judges have ruuled all new projects which adds nitrogen to the soil mostly need to be stopped.So speed limt is decreased from 130 to 100, almsot no houses get actually build anymore while having the largest housing crisis since the ’50’s.
A few farmers became so angry over propasal to buy their land that the cut all trees down. They terrorized the highways by lighting among other things piles off asbestos on fire.
So while in theory probably a nice proposal, at least here in practice not much has come from it so far and before you know it you will have a lot fo angry farmers too.
Next thing might be EU cuttign the subsidies, if we don’t have a plan soon to decrease nitrogen in the soil.
Which would mean all farmers lose their farms to big agro corporations, since they can’t do without 8% subsidies.
So it might turn out they are shooting themselves in the foot as well.
Seems rather exploitable
I guess with GameStop closing down the Greens have seen a good business model.
Used land for rubbish prices. Get a quote and put it towards a PS5.
Didn’t realise so many commenters had a subscription to the Business Post. Anyone have a copy/paste of the article?
Farmers win every which way. Rip the bejaysis out of the soils and you get a few pound from the dairy. Stop ripping the arse out of it and the Greens send you a few quid from the European Green Deal coffers. It’s almost as if owing the land was a nice handy number.
So we just import out beef and food from other countries because it’s more profitable for the farmers and instead destroy habitat elsewhere? Did they think this though at all?
the hen harrier project and a few other EPAs have been promoting his around the country. the farmers get scored based on the kevek of biodiversity available and receive payments based on the score. the farmer can also apply for payments to help increase the biodiversity score.
Good idea
now, if they could plant forests on the bare mountains in Kerry, Cork, Donegal etc. we’d be laughing.
Love all the positive comments here. And everyone rewilding their own little patch? Hope something lovely happens to every single one of you this week 😀
Question from a non-farmer – why isn’t there a push to farm land for intensive fruit and veg production here so that people can eat healthier and cheaper and so we don’t have to rely on supermarkets or continental imports as much ? The more fruit and veg we grow locally, the better for everyone – no ?
Good Idea, I’d like to see that in place If it’s not just empty words.
Serious question-would planting a shit load of trees , in every country , help significantly with climate collapse ?
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I’m all for this. I’ve left 2acres alone for the last 4 years to encourage wildlife to return. I’ve another lot that is more hassle to clear than it is rewarding
I do this with my front garden and the neighbours complain.
Now they wanna pay people to do it?
Considering our levels of biodiversity have declined hugely over the past 30 years, I’d be fully behind this. Though there’s likely to be a lot of competition for land over the next 30 years to balance food production, carbon neutral energy and biodiversity.
Seems like a good idea. Farmers need to earn.
Yes sounds good more forests and nature hopefully farmers aren’t greedy asking ridiculous numbers for small plots they haven’t used in years
And people try to say being a landowner isn’t a class. Literally money for nothing.
It’d be great. But some farmers just want to maintain the tradition of pastoral farming.
Next what they will do is selling this land to foreign investors. Mark my words.
Would it not make more sense to buy the land off them at a fair price and return it to its natural state permanently? A grant or continuous payment could just be revoked with a new elected government and then we’re back to where we were to begin with.
Ah yes then we can import our beef from Brazil
This is a terrible headline. Everyone is looking for rewilding to be a part of CAP. Very few stakeholders are against it. But the headline makes it sound like the Greens want to give farmers money for nothing.
Couple months later. Why is my food so expensive omg
I’ll return my front and back garden if that’s the case. Free money for farmers. What’s new.
Ok but is someone still going to grow food, rear cattle etc? we still need to eat.
Great idea. This is a workable solution.
It’s in stark contrast with their “banning smokey fuel in Ireland while facilitating it’s export abroad” idea.
If we can encourage green initiatives and simultaneously invest in wind energy we’ll be in a much better place in the next few decades.
Every where you go in this county, every field, every spare bit of land is cleared for sheep or cattle. I know a few sheep farmers and they all have to have second jobs because keeping livestock doesnt pay the bills. As far as I can see, they only do it because they’ve been farmers for generations, and because its the only way to make any money from the land they own. if there was a scheme paying them to rewild the land I bet some of them would take it because
1) it means they still own the land
2) it would pay more than sheep
3) it would be a lot less work
^We are/were trying to do this in the netherlands.2/3 of our land is occupied by farms/agriculture. We get way too much nitrogen in to the soil all, nature area’s are dying, biodviersity decreasing.Most farmers don’t want to sell their businesses and the ‘angry farmers movement’ polls as the largest national party and will be the largest party in the senate in a few days with around 25% off the seats. We will probably come to clash with Europe over this soon as well and meanwhile judges have ruuled all new projects which adds nitrogen to the soil mostly need to be stopped.So speed limt is decreased from 130 to 100, almsot no houses get actually build anymore while having the largest housing crisis since the ’50’s.
A few farmers became so angry over propasal to buy their land that the cut all trees down. They terrorized the highways by lighting among other things piles off asbestos on fire.
So while in theory probably a nice proposal, at least here in practice not much has come from it so far and before you know it you will have a lot fo angry farmers too.
Next thing might be EU cuttign the subsidies, if we don’t have a plan soon to decrease nitrogen in the soil.
Which would mean all farmers lose their farms to big agro corporations, since they can’t do without 8% subsidies.
So it might turn out they are shooting themselves in the foot as well.
Seems rather exploitable
I guess with GameStop closing down the Greens have seen a good business model.
Used land for rubbish prices. Get a quote and put it towards a PS5.
Didn’t realise so many commenters had a subscription to the Business Post. Anyone have a copy/paste of the article?
Farmers win every which way. Rip the bejaysis out of the soils and you get a few pound from the dairy. Stop ripping the arse out of it and the Greens send you a few quid from the European Green Deal coffers. It’s almost as if owing the land was a nice handy number.
So we just import out beef and food from other countries because it’s more profitable for the farmers and instead destroy habitat elsewhere? Did they think this though at all?
the hen harrier project and a few other EPAs have been promoting his around the country. the farmers get scored based on the kevek of biodiversity available and receive payments based on the score. the farmer can also apply for payments to help increase the biodiversity score.
Good idea
now, if they could plant forests on the bare mountains in Kerry, Cork, Donegal etc. we’d be laughing.
Love all the positive comments here. And everyone rewilding their own little patch? Hope something lovely happens to every single one of you this week 😀
Question from a non-farmer – why isn’t there a push to farm land for intensive fruit and veg production here so that people can eat healthier and cheaper and so we don’t have to rely on supermarkets or continental imports as much ? The more fruit and veg we grow locally, the better for everyone – no ?
Good Idea, I’d like to see that in place If it’s not just empty words.
Serious question-would planting a shit load of trees , in every country , help significantly with climate collapse ?