I watched this property channel hosted by two English speaking ( one British person and other an Arab probably). I will leave the link below if you want to waste 30 minutes if your life.

They flatters Erdogan for start to end in manner very difficult to see from anyone apart from uneducated Erdoganists.

What shoved me even more is the comments, people from India, Pakistan, Bangladesh are crazy for Erdogan the sultan.

Can anybody explain this phenomenon?


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  2. I think there is a economical and sociological aspect at play where the image of “a strong leader” resonates very much with a population where concepts as honor and pride are important and there is an emphasis on visibility of those concepts through tokens, rituals and context to show succes. Succes is defined as being able to spend lots of money and having power to make decisions and not be challenged.
    It’s the same in the us and Europe. You’ll find plenty of Erdogan support here as well. Not surprisingly in groups of people that feel disenfranchised.

  3. Go to any YouTube video that shows an authoritarian dictator, and you will find a multitude of comments from Indians, Pakistanis, and Bangladeshis praising the “great leader”. I guess they just love dictators.

  5. Might be similar to when you see an outrageously bigoted tweet about conquering the ‘infidels’ or something and the account location is set as London, many such cases

  6. Because they’re cretins. Not the populations, these dudes specifically. There are also cretins in other places. There’s a lot of cretins.

  7. I really shouldn’t speak on behalf of South Asian people, but I come from a country where people are generally politically indifferent. My countrymen would cheer for any leaders that are currently in power simply because of the fact that have most media exposure.

  8. Propaganda? Most governments pay ‘ companies’ to post on social media to ‘amplify their position’. This may be that government themselves paying for positive content it’s very widespread so I’d imagine tha possibility first

  9. Just an asian thing, I suppose. When you always in a constant search of a powerful and “noble” figure, a leader among leaders

  10. Bots, the average person in those countries couldn’t give two shits about what’s going on in Turkey, they’re far more interested in what is happening in their sphere.

  11. A combination of distance and different education systems? A few weeks back there was a post on LinkedIn Lunatics about a guy in India talking about Hitler.

    [https://www.jpost.com/opinion/why-is-adolf-hitler-popular-in-india-376622](https://www.jpost.com/opinion/why-is-adolf-hitler-popular-in-india-376622)

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    >It doesn’t take long to realize that Hitler’s legacy in India greatly
    differs from that in the West. More removed from the traumas associated
    with World War II and the Holocaust, Indians approach Hitler from a
    distance not possible in societies where war veterans, Holocaust
    survivors and education about the war and its legacy are part of the
    national psyche.

  13. If i am not wrong……India has surpassed china to become most populous country in the world.

    Plus unlike china, average citizen has access to internet ( in unrestricted way ) & folks there speak English.

    It is really difficult to assess more than billion people whether they support Erdogan or not. As far as I know turkey doesn’t have favorable geopolitical relation with Indians.

    If I had to guess, I’d say Indians won’t be “loving” Erdogan.

  14. From outside of Europe, Turkey may honestly look like a modern country with a strong leader. You may not notice the authoritarian twist when you are not paying much attention to European politics.

  15. It’s an obsession with Turkey in general.

    And Erdo is a “strong Muslim leader” who is also the leader of Turkey, so that appeals to Bangladeshis, Pakistanis, and Indian Muslims who are unaware Turks hate them.

    Why?

    I don’t know? But it’s something I noticed a long time ago. I think much of the Muslim world loves someone who’s 1) leading a large and strong upper or middle-income state and 2) butts heads with them West.

    I have an atheist French friend of Algerian descent who doesn’t exactly love the guy, but very much appreciates him, and loves his “standing up” to Europe and the US. Why? Israel-Palestine. This is a central issue for so many people of Muslim background, whether from MENA, or South Asia, or born and raised in Europe. The Israeli-Palestinian conflict symbolizes to them, their own victimhood by the West.

    I think in the case Pakistanis and Bangladeshis and Indian Muslims -but also many MENAs- they also need a “strong Muslim state” that they can be proud of and look up to, and not a petro state that -in their minds- kisses US ass like Saudi Arabia.

    Turkey fits that bill. They look up to Turkey. And the fact that Turks are white and indistinguishable from Europeans is the icing on the cake. And Erdo’s the man that will Make the Muslim World Great Again. Many, of course, deeply resent secular westward-looking Turks.

  17. It’s an extra layer in the bigger conspiracy theories. Which is on the rise everywhere in the world. This is what constant misinformation which support your bias/bubble does to you after +- 10 years of reading it.

    They think they are ‘thinking critically’ but it’s ironically a characteristic they lack the most honestly

  18. It’s Muslims liking him , everyone else hates him because he keeps saying he will send task force to kashmir.
    Islam is already disliked for it’s use of word kafir in South Asia.

  19. The vast majority of Indian accounts on social media are Modi’s supporters and bots, who has strikinly similar political image with Erdogan. Vary same reason why they are rooting for Putin and Trump.

  23. Most likely they are paid to write “real” comments and reviews. It’s a known phenomenon, hitting social media, review sites, Google maps, Tripadvisor and similar. Like a real life bot farm. It will likely be replaced with AI soon…

  25. They‘re all brainless and support a leader/dictator because they support THEIR religion

    It‘s all religion and stupidity/lack of education

  26. All the Arabs and Pakistanis I met are telling me how much they like Erdogan after they learned that I’m Turkish, and they think I’m just stupid when I tell them there is nothing to like about Erdogan.

  28. I am an Average Indian and I have never heard about Erdogan. Never seen him in our National News Channel. Never heard about him on our social media. Erdogan has so far not gotten any entertainment from the Indian Government. And not everyone in India knows about him. Stop Generalizing.

  29. Its the Muslims in India, Pakistan and Bangladesh. They suffer from an identity crisis.

    India is one of the oldest civilizations and a cultural superpower of the ancient world, whose ideas of religion and spirituality went on to influence most of Asia, especially to the East. Once the Islamic Caliphates spread. India was the Eastern border of the Islamic world and the conflict between native Indian cultures and Islam has been going on for a millennia. The Muslims in the region are converts during the time of the Islamic occupation.

    The identity crisis comes from the fact that they reject their own Indian roots and ancestry due to the ongoing culture war in the region. The entire basis of partition of the subcontinent was based on the principle that Muslims are fundamentally different from the rest of the natives and hence cannot coexist with the others. In this context, they keep going on about “Muslim brotherhood”, trying to create a separate Islamic identity and keep trying to get acceptance from the rest of the Islamic world.

    For the longest time they used to go around pretending to be descendants of Arabs, but with the oil boom in the middle east and migration to work there, Muslims from the subcontinent soon found out that the Arabs don’t consider them as one of their own. They treated them the same as every other “slaves” coming for a job. Worse, the Arabs preferred to trade with India, just as they have been doing for centuries past, and not get dragged into the scuffles of the sub-continent.

    At this point, Erdogon started with his neo-Ottoman BS. He started portraying himself as the leader of the Muslim world and so on. And muslims of the subcontinent found another identity to latch on to. All of a sudden, you had these people simping for Turkey, consuming Turkish entertainment and taking cultural cues from them. The simping is so bad that I’ve seen even Turkish people sometimes baffled by this.

  31. Because asian muslim communities see Turkey as model country for their future as ”European but muslims” that thing attracts more than anything , also some of them still see Turkey as continuation of Caliphate and a leader for muslim world , muslim world doesnt have a cultural head or leading country for decades not like western world

  32. Because Erdogan unofficially promises Sharia. That’s why Turks who support Sharia and those in Arab countries love Erdogan. At the same time, this crowd hates Atatürk. There is a great polarization between secular Turks and Islamist Turks. Greetings from Turkey.

  34. Muslims of Indian subcontinent have an affinity for Turkish Caliphate. When the British broke up the Ottoman Empire, the Indian Muslims rose up against this. Google Khilafat movement British India. A large portion of subcontinent Muslim don’t regard themselves as descendants of Hindus, Buddhists etc folks living in India, but identify themselves with Turks, Persians and even Arabs. It’s a shit show to be honest, you have mid height brown Indian guy who looks 100% Indian, thinks himself to be a Turk or an Arab🥲

  36. They think that Turks care about them and see them as brother countries just because of their religion, but they don’t know that Erdogan is using them as a puppet states in the political arena and they are the most hated nationalities along with arabs in Turkey because of the illegal immigrations.

  37. My assumption is that conservative people support a conservative leader. The only reason US Republicans or the EU alt-right dislike him is because he’s Turkish (brown person bad).

  38. “Turkey is the next powerhouse”

    Love how these dumbass authoritarian sympathizers refuse to accept that their stupid ideology will be the reason they never achieve that status.

  40. Some folks love the taste and feel of a boot on their neck. How do I know that? I’m Mexican of course

  41. “Strong muslim leader” aspect

    When I use Uber at europe with muslim migrant drivers, almost all are talking about how good Erdogan is, how we don’t appreciate him enough etc shit.

    I don’t know what to say. They haveno idea what’s going on in Turkey

  42. Indian here. The majority of us are no fans of Erdogan (as he keeps on spewing lies about Kashmir and he has a clear Islamist agenda) but there do seem to be a minority of folks who are his fans. Unfortunately ignorance runs strong amongst this brainwashed minority, who love giving political “knowledge” without actually knowing the facts

  47. As a Turk, after this election, I realized that “foreigners love Erdogan more than Turks”.

    Not only indians and pakistanis… arabs, afghans, bangladeshis, indonesians, uzbeks, tajiks, kyrgyz, Kazakhs, russians, ukrainian, germans(Turkish origin), chechens, bulgarians etc. He likes Erdogan, but as a Turk, I don’t like him. We are in a very strange paradox…

    (I don’t want to make a generalization about these groups. However, this is the picture when viewed from Turkey)

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